so who are the Cubs going to be forced to part with when the Ray tampering charge sticks?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

This Maddon thing is really bothering you.

Save some energy. Might not even happen.

good dolphin is the JJ Watt of the board. He hates how the Cubs don't play the game the right way.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Everyone tampers

He's more like J.J. Walker, imo

JJ Abrams. Good ideas, terrible execution.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

yep. I'm DYN-O-MITE!

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Shouldn't the fact he had an opt-out clause negate the tampering?

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Maybe he wasn't planning on exercising the opt out then he was contacted by another team and he changed his mind.

Maddon wasn't aware he had an opt-out clause until his agent called him and told him.

Yep.

Even if he WAS planning to opt out but had not as of yet and the Cubs contacted him, it would be tampering.

The Cubs are quickly becoming an unethical group.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Sure he didn't know he had a clause...

No.

It's just like you can't tamper with someone who is going to be a free agent.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Agent: You can opt out of your contract

Joe: I don't want to opt out of my contract

Agent: I talked to this team and they want to pay you a butt load of money if you opt out

Joe: Ok I'll opt out

Tampa:

Beardown: Stop stealing my comedy bits!

Good Dolphin is really losing his fastball. It's like Willy Mays playing for the New York Mets.

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I understand it isn't the cheerleading we see in the Chicago media but everything I have written about has been discussed over the past weekend on a national level.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Did Willie Mays have a good fastball?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Mixedmetaphorbag

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You can pick him wearing any uniform. He pretty much sucked for everybody.

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You know me like that.

That is kinda harsh on dolphin

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

They are all reporting on Olney's report. I can't find a single person with their own information.

When Friedman left it triggered a clause in Madden's contract in which TB needs to notify Madden via his appointed agent as to the fact his 14 day window has opened up of him being able to opt out.

While the chance exists that the Cubs happen to be aware of this I would just guess it would have come from 1 source, Madden's agent, who has been doing this for 25 years and should know what is considered tampering or not.

Of course when the decission is made by Bud about what is tampering and he calls Jerry.....Ohhhh wait....that isn't going to happen anymore.

Here is chris Coghlan....next

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Pretty soon you will be able to say "this is like Jay Cutler when he played for the Bears"

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Under those circumstances, I think tampering would be pretty hard to claim/enforce (unless he went to the Dodgers of course, which doesn't look like is happening).

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pretty sure MLB can ask for phone records of both its agents and teams

So boys, what will the Cubs have to give up for Maddon? Sox got a prospect that never materialized for Ozzie but Maddon is considered much better. What is his value?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Doesn't matter. I've been informed that all their prospects suck.

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Maddon better than Ozzie?

That big WS Ring on Ozzies finger says differently.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Bryant