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Unfunny and stupid. Its something Abbattacola would tweet if he were a bigger name and could get away with it.

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Not racist, just bad jokes. Never been a fan of Lange.


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It's racist too, and not funny, and hopefully he was high on something like cocaine or caffeine because that is pretty sad.

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It's racist too, and not funny, and hopefully he was high on something like cocaine or caffeine because that is pretty sad.


Heroin and Jack Daniel's are Artie's drugs of choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Artie Lange
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I'm of the mindset that any subject has comedic potential. But when you attempt a joke like and mangle it as badly as Lange did, I have no problem with it being called racist, regardless of intent.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's racist too, and not funny, and hopefully he was high on something like cocaine or caffeine because that is pretty sad.


My guess is he probably was high and thought it would be funny. The fact that he didn't delete the tweets tells me he is looking for attention.

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He's absolutely doing it for attention and I dont think he's high (or, the high didnt cause him to do it.)


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's racist too, and not funny, and hopefully he was high on something like cocaine or caffeine because that is pretty sad.


My guess is he probably was high and thought it would be funny. The fact that he didn't delete the tweets tells me he is looking for attention.

If only he was a part of a major satellite radio show….

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I just gotta say as a frequently high person that it is some outrageous bullshit that when someone says something insane and/or racist we default to "he must be high". We need to be mot progressive these days.

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I just gotta say as a frequently high person that it is some outrageous bullshit that when someone says something insane and/or racist we default to "he must be high".

Well Ive been saying that about your attacks in Clash of Clans for a week now.

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Not the first time he has injected (so to speak) race into his humor:

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I just gotta say as a frequently high person that it is some outrageous bullshit that when someone says something insane and/or racist we default to "he must be high". We need to be mot progressive these days.

Agreed.

That was calculated. He knew what he was doing.


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I just gotta say as a frequently high person that it is some outrageous bullshit that when someone says something insane and/or racist we default to "he must be high". We need to be mot progressive these days.
Why? A lot of the time stupid behavior is because of someone being on something. It's fair to speculate on it.

It's not like they are saying the substance makes you racist.

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I just gotta say as a frequently high person that it is some outrageous bullshit that when someone says something insane and/or racist we default to "he must be high". We need to be mot progressive these days.
What if its age discrimination?

Dude, I'm not sleeping with some 50 year old. Maybe she was 60.

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YA KNOW ONE TIME I TRIED METH.... IT WAS A GREAT DRUG IF I DECIDED THAT I WANTED TO SPONTANEOUSLY WALK ALL THE WAY TO ST LOUIS!!!!! HEYOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Chus knows what i'm talking about here.


That was one of the many jokes that he routinely crowbarred into the Stern Show, often bringing the discussion to a halt.

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I just gotta say as a frequently high person that it is some outrageous bullshit that when someone says something insane and/or racist we default to "he must be high". We need to be mot progressive these days.


YOU'RE HIGH; SHUT UP!

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He is a comedian. You can say a bad comedian and that these jokes aren't funny. Fine. But is what he's doing any different than Lisa Lampinelli's thing of always talking about banging black guys? Nobody calls her racist. Comedians are vulgar and disgusting. Some of the best have been this way. If he does this in a stand up act, I don't think he gets killed. But we live in a new era. Where comedians are gonna put out their material on twitter.

True, any non comedian that says this shit, should and would get killed.

What's his name. The guy that got in a car accident from a Wal Mart truck. He made a joke on TNT's NBA coverage about jerking off to Sarah Palin.

Howard Stern has talked about wanting to bang actress' for years. You can't hurt Artie Lange by saying he's disgusting. That's his intent.


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The reason to believe Artie was high is because Artie is ALWAYS high.

I give comedians a lot of leeway in creating a joke otherwise it will stunt the creativity. It isn't easy crafting a joke.

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He is a comedian. You can say a bad comedian and that these jokes aren't funny. Fine. But is what he's doing any different than Lisa Lampinelli's thing of always talking about banging black guys? Nobody calls her racist. Comedians are vulgar and disgusting. Some of the best have been this way. If he does this in a stand up act, I don't think he gets killed. But we live in a new era. Where comedians are gonna put out their material on twitter.
It is significantly different than that.

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An hour ago from Art:

I'm about to say a few things I can't believe have to be explained in a rational world. I observed that Cari Champion was a gorgeous lady. I then thought it would be funny to tweet JOKES about that observation. A decision which might be the end of modern comedy. I would rather load trucks for a living then ever apologize to one of these awful PC groups ruining the country. So that's a NO. But if it upset the lady in question that's another story. Let me say to Cari Champion if this hurt u in any way I'm sorry. I'm a comedian. Sometimes I'm funny! For the record my moms disgusted w the tweets. But if I based my humor on my mom I'd be broke.
They're now telling me I can't appear on @Midnight tonight cause of the pressure they're getting from these groups. But who cares. I love the show & it's my living but who cares. These groups have won again. All I care about is Cari Champion. Truly. But I'm sure you'll be ok. You're gorgeous & talented. I hope that didn't offend u. To the PC army. Congrats! U won again! Gluten free cake! I've been asked not to appear on @midnight & uve ruined any chance I had at dating Cari Champion (That was a joke).
I'm not racist. I don't hate women. And to u PC groups that did this I wanna be clear. Go FUCK yourselves! Now get back to saving the world. Done. Peace.

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An hour ago from Art:

I'm about to say a few things I can't believe have to be explained in a rational world. I observed that Cari Champion was a gorgeous lady. I then thought it would be funny to tweet JOKES about that observation. A decision which might be the end of modern comedy. I would rather load trucks for a living then ever apologize to one of these awful PC groups ruining the country. So that's a NO. But if it upset the lady in question that's another story. Let me say to Cari Champion if this hurt u in any way I'm sorry. I'm a comedian. Sometimes I'm funny! For the record my moms disgusted w the tweets. But if I based my humor on my mom I'd be broke.
They're now telling me I can't appear on @Midnight tonight cause of the pressure they're getting from these groups. But who cares. I love the show & it's my living but who cares. These groups have won again. All I care about is Cari Champion. Truly. But I'm sure you'll be ok. You're gorgeous & talented. I hope that didn't offend u. To the PC army. Congrats! U won again! Gluten free cake! I've been asked not to appear on @midnight & uve ruined any chance I had at dating Cari Champion (That was a joke).
I'm not racist. I don't hate women. And to u PC groups that did this I wanna be clear. Go FUCK yourselves! Now get back to saving the world. Done. Peace.


I agree with him and that's what I was trying to say. Cari Champion shouldn't respond. It's one of those "Consider the Source" things. In this case the source was a vulgar, disgusting comedian who was...wait for it...making a vulgar and disgusting joke.

Now, if Tom Brokaw or President Obama tweeted that, different story. Why can't people get this?


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Is he still on Howard's show?

He seems like a guy who really needs the attention.


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Is he still on Howard's show?

He seems like a guy who really needs the attention.


No. After he stuck a knife in his stomach Howard got rid of him. He was doing some sports radio show. Maybe he's still doing it. Not sure.


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I agree with him and that's what I was trying to say. Cari Champion shouldn't respond. It's one of those "Consider the Source" things. In this case the source was a vulgar, disgusting comedian who was...wait for it...making a vulgar and disgusting joke.

Now, if Tom Brokaw or President Obama tweeted that, different story. Why can't people get this?
There is still a fine line in comedy. You can get away with things if done correctly. This clearly was not.

Saying "I'm a comedian" isn't an excuse to do or say anything you want.

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Is he still on Howard's show?

He seems like a guy who really needs the attention.


He has been off the show for years. He was either missing work entirely, falling asleep on the air, throwing things at people. They had to let him go.

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I don't think he was on drugs. If he was on drugs, he would have fallen asleep in the middle of all those tweets.

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I think there's a clip of Patrice O'Neal on some fox/business show talking about the subject of "good taste" in humor and/or what's acceptable, and he basically said that it comes town to whether the joke/s were funny or not.

He said ppl like his debate opponent have somebody else tell them what happened and claim faux-populist status representing "the people" or a group of "concerned citizens" which is a bunch of crap cuz WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY REPRESENT? they give you some PR about their championed demographic and go back to talking points, having no clue as to what "funny" is and what makes people laughb/ be entertained as they're just out there to use a "controversy" to further their agenda to make rahm emanual and his legendary quopte about making use of a crisis proud.

In this case Artie bombed... It doesn't help that anyone who has followed him and/or listened to him for years on the stern show knows that by today's nebulous standards he's racist... But what this was about was a comedian trying to appeal to his base by being edgy and controversial and it spectacularly failed....

...or did it? I bet you didn't know he just had a comedy central standup special and a new premium/$$$ podcast starting soon and hey book #2 crash and burn is now out in paperback!!

The kind of ppl he's bitching about would never consume his product anyways. I doubt he lost a serious # of fans (@midnight = huge numbers 4 sure) by doing this... If anything he reminded his target demo of ppl who wanna laughb@ tryhard "enwurd jokes" a not so subtle reminder that he exists,a and by calling out "the enemy" he hearkens the great culture war by making it seem like buying his ahit = fighting the evil PC police who wanna sanitize/censor ur world into a #SafeSpace for degenerates.

All in all it's just another joke about doing meth and taking a walk to st Louis.

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