Jay Cutler

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:18 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: Poor Jay . He could be great if not for his coach. Everywhere he's gone.

Except with Shanahan. Do you have the ability to acknowledge how awful his coaches have been?

Wow. Lots of Lovie hatred from Nas!

Offensive coaches.

Jaw Breaker · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:34 am

Nas wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: Poor Jay . He could be great if not for his coach. Everywhere he's gone.

Except with Shanahan. Do you have the ability to acknowledge how awful his coaches have been?

Wow. Lots of Lovie hatred from Nas!

Offensive coaches.

Wasn't Mike Martz pretty successful (prior to being Cutlerized)?

Hatchetman · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:36 am

turner, martz, and trestman all had examples of success previously. so were they to blame then? coaches are only responsible sometimes? Only responsible when it comes to Cutler?

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:44 am

The league had figured Martz out and the Bears didn't have talent on offense.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:47 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1808136#p1808136

Nas wrote:

I'm probably too critical of Cutler today but that is because I am tired of the constant excuses for a guy that has only managed to throw 20 more yards a game than Orton did in his only full season even though he has superior weapons.

Nas is now making excuses for what Cutler did in 2012-2013, when he made this post.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

The excuses made for Cutler are strikingly similar to the reasons Angry young softball player didnt make it to the show (Bad coach, bad teammates)

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:11 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1808136#p1808136

Nas wrote:

I'm probably too critical of Cutler today but that is because I am tired of the constant excuses for a guy that has only managed to throw 20 more yards a game than Orton did in his only full season even though he has superior weapons.

Nas is now making excuses for what Cutler did in 2012-2013, when he made this post.

He's having a career year despite having an idiot as a head coach.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:12 pm

Nas wrote:

He's having a career year despite having an idiot as a head coach.

You do realize that this possibly being his best year ever is not a compliment to Jay Cutler right?

Josh McCown had a career year with this idiot at coach too. He still sucks.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:13 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

He's having a career year despite having an idiot as a head coach.

You do realize that this possibly being his best year ever is not a compliment to Jay Cutler right?

Josh McCown had a career year with this idiot at coach too. He still sucks.

McCown did it before the league figured Trestman out. Who would have thought that Cover 3 could cripple an offense?

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:16 pm

Nas wrote:

He's having a career year

He is 3-6

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:22 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

He's having a career year

He is 3-6

I didn't think I had to include statistically.

Chris_in_joliet · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:27 pm

Also not included

Turnovers
And stats accumulated after hIs team is down multiple scores due to him not being able to sustain drives .

Juiced · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:06 am **Posts:** 6856

Nas wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1808136#p1808136

Nas wrote:

I'm probably too critical of Cutler today but that is because I am tired of the constant excuses for a guy that has only managed to throw 20 more yards a game than Orton did in his only full season even though he has superior weapons.

Nas is now making excuses for what Cutler did in 2012-2013, when he made this post.

He's having a career year despite having an idiot as a head coach.

A career year in which you have 15 turnovers in 9 games, is not a very good year or career.

Is it Tresman's fault Jay is turning the ball over? Did Tresman say," Hey Jay, make sure you hold the ball down around your waist and chug it like a nerf football off your back foot."

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:35 pm

No shit cij. You look at the NE box score and think, "Cutler had a pretty good game." Nas is failing to mention that Cutler was down 38-7 at halftime. And yes, Nas, the defense sucked that game but part of the reason they were down so big is that Cutler had 66 passing yards in the first half and could not sustain a single drive.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:35 pm

QB fumbles are usually blamed on the offensive line. Cutler doesn't get benefit I see.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:38 pm

Nas, you are making yourself look stupid here. Cutler has 15 turnovers this year, and he is at least partly at fault for that.

I was one of the biggest and most vocal Cutler fans on the board here for years, and even I now realize that I was wrong.

jimmypasta · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:39 pm

NAS is king of the Trolls,I think. Is there others not counting SOX fans?

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:46 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas, you are making yourself look stupid here. Cutler has 15 turnovers this year, and he is at least partly at fault for that.

I was one of the biggest and most vocal Cutler fans on the board here for years, and even I now realize that I was wrong.

I have acknowledged that Cutler has been bad the last 2 games. I think Trestman and Tucker get the lion's share of the blame. Despite all the problems Cutler has been forced to overcome he is on pace to have 30+ touchdowns and about 17 interceptions. I'll take that every year.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:53 pm

Nas wrote:

Cutler has been forced to overcome he is on pace to have 30+ touchdowns and about 17 interceptions.

Why don't you include the fumbles? How many of those is he on pace to lose?

If the fumbles are 'usually blamed on the OL' then shouldn't the WRs get credit for the touchdowns, not Cutler? You can't have it both ways, Nas.

Cutler has been bad all season except for Atlanta and one half against SF. The rest of this season he has been bad or mediocre.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:56 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Cutler has been forced to overcome he is on pace to have 30+ touchdowns and about 17 interceptions.

Why don't you include the fumbles? How many of those is he on pace to lose?

If the fumbles are 'usually blamed on the OL' then shouldn't the WRs get credit for the touchdowns, not Cutler? You can't have it both ways, Nas.

Cutler has been bad all season except for Atlanta and one half against SF. The rest of this season he has been bad or mediocre.

Only Bears "fans" look at fumbles when talking about their QB. If you think Cutler has been bad all season with the exception of 6 quarters we really don't have anything else to talk about. I doubt Rick would say something like that.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:00 pm

So as a "fan" I should simply ignore fumbles from the QB that are picked up and returned for touchdowns?

Cutler has been bad or mediocre with the exception of 6 quarters this season. Maybe 7 if you include the 1st quarter against GB at Solider Field.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:02 pm

I doubt any other fan base knows how many fumbles their QB has. Bears fans look for ways to tear Cutler down.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:04 pm

Nas wrote:

I doubt any other fan base knows how many fumbles their QB has. Bears fans look for ways to tear Cutler down.

This coming from the guy who counts rushing touchdowns from his QB. Who ya crappin?

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:05 pm

Nas wrote:

I doubt any other fan base knows how many fumbles their QB has.

Because they don't fumble almost every game like Cutler does!

Quote:

Bears fans look for ways to tear Cutler down

We don't have to look real hard. In fact, its harder to find ways to build him up.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:06 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

I doubt any other fan base knows how many fumbles their QB has.

Because they don't fumble almost every game like Cutler does!

Quote:

Bears fans look for ways to tear Cutler down

We don't have to look real hard. In fact, its harder to find ways to build him up.

How many games has Cutler fumbled in? Aren't most fumbles the result of a blindside hit?

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:08 pm

FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

I doubt any other fan base knows how many fumbles their QB has. Bears fans look for ways to tear Cutler down.

This coming from the guy who counts rushing touchdowns from his QB. Who ya crappin?

Unless we are talking about a fumbled snap QB's have very little control over not getting hit from the blindside.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:09 pm

Nas wrote:

Only Bears "fans" look at fumbles when talking about their QB. If you think Cutler has been bad all season with the exception of 6 quarters we really don't have anything else to talk about. I doubt Rick would say something like that.

It's probably more like 8 quarters if we don't count the second half of New England which we shouldn't.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:09 pm

Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

I doubt any other fan base knows how many fumbles their QB has. Bears fans look for ways to tear Cutler down.

This coming from the guy who counts rushing touchdowns from his QB. Who ya crappin?

Unless we are talking about a fumbled snap QB's have very little control over not getting hit from the blindside.

It's pretty clear Nas is just having fun now. This is an undeniably horrible thought otherwise.

veganfan21 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:11 pm

Chris_in_joliet wrote:

Also not included

Turnovers
And stats accumulated after hIs team is down multiple scores due to him not being able to sustain drives .

Even the garbage time production sucks. At 42-0 I would expect at least 24 points or something after the half from a supposed high powered offense, but even then nothing happened.

Yeah nas this is Jay's career year, meaning the end of his career as a viable long term starting QB. Screw Cutler and the horse that rode in on him.

Scorehead · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:12 pm

Why are you guys still arguing with a guy who is doing a bit?

Jay Cutler

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