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Brian Kelly ends the previous week's loss to AZ ST. by losing his temper when Tim Prister asks him a legitimate question regarding the team's horrific 1st half against the Sun Devils. Yes you idiot, your team was poorly prepared, and YOU need to take the responsibility. And whether that qualifies under "flat" or not, semantics are no reason to blow your load on a respected media member.

Following yet another loss, this time to NU, Kelly blames the loss on his PLAYERS' "critical mistakes." Yet the true critical error was Kelly's stupidity in not burning clock to preserve a decent 2nd half lead in his home stadium.

THIRD KELLY LOSS OVER THE PAST FOUR GAMES. Get out of town, you douche, you're no better than Davie, Willingham, or Weis as you consistently lose 4 to 5 games per season despite having elite talent at your disposal. You refuse to take the blame for game mismanagement. You decide to go for 2 when a 1pt PAT would've taken you to a 12-point lead. This is an experienced head coach?

Congratulations to Wildcat fans who deserved the win and who have a NORMAL head coach, instead of the "head case" that is Brian Kelly. Here we go again as ND football is the laughingstock of college sports.


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I have my concerns about Brian Kelley this year.
"Losing his temper" is not one of them. He is clearly making a conscious effort to not lose his shit every time #5 loses the football.
He has demonstrated this 46 times this year

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Yeah, but did you see the way he went after kicker Kyle Brindza? This is not the NFL. The kid has done a lot for ND and deserves a little more respect than the verbal ass-kicking he got from BK. Especially in freezing-ass conditions.

No question BK has been patient with Golson's troubles. But if BK had let Malik Zaire come in under a few circumstances, maybe Golson wouldn't feel he needs to shoulder 100% of the responsibilities.


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Notre Dame deserves Brian Kelly. I hope he is the ND head coach for many years to come.

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Notre Dame deserves Brian Kelly. I hope he is the ND head coach for many years to come.

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Notre Dame deserves Brian Kelly. I hope he is the ND head coach for many years to come.

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I'm not disappointed that NU won -- as I've mentioned, my niece is a student there. She came on the bus and watched the game with my brother. So I'm glad it turned out to be a good experience for her.

Kelly needs to realize that his teams are just not good enough to win using close-to-the-vest playcalling. Even Holtz used to loosen-up defenses by throwing deep on 1st down, despite his preference for running attacks.

By the same token, Kelly needs to do a better job of adapting his gameplan to the opponent at hand by stepping out of his comfort zone. By the time he figured out how to attack Arizona St., the game became out of reach -- and even after pulling to within three, he didn't play to his team's strength of talented backs. Back to pass-happy. So ASU quickly took back the game.


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I was sitting in the bar at Bob Chinn's watching that ending. Besides the stupid go for two attempt, why were trying to run on that final regulation drive? This team is a joke.

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Early in the season, Brian Van Gorder did an excellent job with the defense. Yesterday they couldn't stop NU.

But if the offense would stop fucking up -- and that's on Kelly -- even a depleted Van Gorder defense could regroup and be able to muster up some decent stops. Look at the field position for most Arizona State drives in the first half of that game.

Common sense tells you that when you're facing a good ASU opponent in a hostile environment, you do what you can to limit their number of attempts on offense -- and that's not possible when your QB is having his worst game ever. Have him take a breather, run off some clock with Zaire, and grind it out for a while!

On offense against NU, it's obvious that fundamentals are not being emphasized at ND. You can't have a player failing to secure the ball as he's being tackled while nearing the endzone. You can't have your receivers turning to run before they've secured the ball on a catch. What shit.

If the players are mailing it in, as I think some are beginning to, once again it reflects very badly on the head coach. Do your individual coaching in practice, you asswipe, instead of waiting for your players to make errors and then chewing out their asses on the sidelines. These are not pros -- if they're performing badly, it's up to YOU to make the in-game adjustments that will position your team to compete.


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man i remember a few weeks ago some of the notre dame people i know were crowing about how awesome they were and there's a small yet very real chance that they're going to be in the national championship playoffs and it's so nice to have a REAL COACH like brian kelly and if only the bears had a REAL COACH like brian kelly...

and then the last 4 weeks happen and now here we are with this thread.

it reminds me of the inverse of a few years ago when the yankees were facing elimination in the divisional series against somebody and their last hope was AJ burnett to go out there down 2-0 and to stop the bleeding. no yankees fans thought he was going to do it so for the day or two preceding the matchup they were vociferously cunting up the chatroom whining about how much AJ burnett sucks and motherfucking cashman deserves to be exposed like this you end up down 2-0 in a best of 5 and the chickens have come home to roost because now only AJ burnett stands between you and elimination and rah rah rah blah blah blah yankees suck i've been telling you all fucking year they might make the playoffs but these aint THE NEW YORK YANKEES and etc etc etc

but then a funny thing happened hen that game went down; burnett pitched something like 6-8 shutout/1-run innings and the yankees won pretty easily.

to a man all the yankees fans all had to do an instant mea culpa and act like they had faith all along and they were just "trolling" us with their whining/crying/getting-out-in-front-of-the-defeat-so-they-dont-look-that-bad-when-it-happens (i've been accused of doing this with arsenal on the soccer tip because i don't suffer cognitive dissonance and i know what i'm seeing out there and i'm quite honest about the state of arsenal, not because i want chelsea/united/liverpool fans to like me more because i'm the miserable arsenal Caller Bob who rags on them. the yankees fans wanted to be seen as more-worldly non-homers so it was LAUGH WITH EVERYONE AT BURNETT STARTING.... until he started and shut the haters up)

so this is the opposite of that. i'm sure GOIrishND will tell me that he's been anti-kelly for a long time and thought he had a pretty firmly established ceiling and they never thought ND as any good when they got to the national championship game a few years ago (or whatever) and even when things were going "good" 4 weeks ago they saw the warts and cracks and achilles heel of this ND team and now the chickens have come home to roost and it's just like all the REAL ND fans have been warning you about all season long and etc etc.

ah well, i dont think anyone outside of the most irrationally week-to-week ND homer can tell you that they had any real aspirations for them to go and have a crack at the national championship this year. i think finishing top-15 as about as good as it could get ,and by all accounts ending up 15-25 is a good season for notre dame. they're out of the top 25 right now, right/ they'll still end up .500+ and get a relatively-nice bowl because they're notre dame and whether you love or hate em they do cause people to have an opinion either way on them in the national consciousness, so they'll still do well to finish in the top 25 and be a destination for recruits who can't go down to the SEC or oregon or any warm climate.

and hey at least it's not bob davie or charlie weis out there, eh? i'll still never get over the school kicking out people who rocked DUMP DAVIE shirts in the stadium while they were making bank off of selling CATHOLICS VS CONVICTS shirts outside. stay classy, america's vatican, stay classy.

and of course when it's windy out be sure to say a prayer for the kids you send up there to film your practices. god should listen closely because you're american's vatican and all that =D

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A Notre Dame coach can kill students and support rapists and nobody calls for his job but God forbid he loses to Northwestern.

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A Notre Dame coach can kill students and support rapists and nobody calls for his job but God forbid he loses to Northwestern.


I used to root for ND until that young kid from Buffalo Grove was told to go up on that crane on a horrifically bad windy day. How ignorant and stupid do you have to be to allow that? Kelly should have been fired within the week.

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going for two in that situation when an extra point puts them up by 12 was asinine, and you could just feel that somehow that was going to come into play somehow. so many head coaches in college and in the NFL these days are so anxious to show how smart they are with the 2-point conversion. just kick the fucking ball unless you NEED two. please, for the love of God, stop trying to prove how clever you are and just kick the fucking ball already.


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At the time of the Sullivan death, I didn't realize that BK would be taking the blameless path for years as things went wrong.

So no, I wasn't always anti-Kelly. On the contrary. But now that we look at the body of work, including embarrassing home losses to South Florida and Pitt over his tenure, it's become quite clear that he's not the man for the job.

I still won't put the bulk of the blame on Kelly for the death -- there are more boneheads involved. I experienced those winds firsthand in SB that day, and it was all pretty sudden.

But we've since seen that BK's the epitomy of a sore loser, and he needs to start taking responsibilty for a team that's unravelling at a rapid pace.

This team will end up with 5 losses, possibly 6. Meanwhile BK is still thinking about how to beat Ty Willingham in golf. I think the job stress is addling his brain.


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It's very true that ND fans were not really expecting a run at the National Championship this year. But we ALSO WERE NOT EXPECTING 5 or even 6 LOSSES --that's worse than the TOMMY REES season last year!!!!

Louisville, @USC, and a bowl coming up -- all very real loss potential.

Save the anti-religious crap. I'm not a Catholic so that horseshit belongs elsewhere. Thanks.


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Scorehead wrote:
spanky wrote:
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Notre Dame deserves Brian Kelly. I hope he is the ND head coach for many years to come.

Do you have a CFB program that you pull for on a regular basis?


Yes.

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A Notre Dame coach can kill students and support rapists and nobody calls for his job but God forbid he loses to Northwestern.

:lol:

Spot on.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
A Notre Dame coach can kill students and support rapists and nobody calls for his job but God forbid he loses to Northwestern.


I used to root for ND until that young kid from Buffalo Grove was told to go up on that crane on a horrifically bad windy day. How ignorant and stupid do you have to be to allow that? Kelly should have been fired within the week.

You're a good dude Jimmy.

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Douchebag wrote:
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spanky wrote:
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Notre Dame deserves Brian Kelly. I hope he is the ND head coach for many years to come.

Do you have a CFB program that you pull for on a regular basis?


Yes.

Grambling State.


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jimmypasta wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
A Notre Dame coach can kill students and support rapists and nobody calls for his job but God forbid he loses to Northwestern.


I used to root for ND until that young kid from Buffalo Grove was told to go up on that crane on a horrifically bad windy day. How ignorant and stupid do you have to be to allow that? Kelly should have been fired within the week.


Spot on, Jimmy.

I have no idea how he kept his job after that.


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I'd say that losing to a 17-point underdog, with a losing record, in your home stadium, is pretty damn bad. This is not an attack on Northwestern. It's just an opinion that ND was badly coached -- you yourselves have alluded to the number of walk-ons who see action for NU, yet they clearly won in convincing fashion. Fitz is clearly getting more out of his players than Kelly ever has.

We don't need to go back several years to find flaws with Kelly. He's doing a good job of revealing his inadequacies right now.

Kelly lacks motivational skills, tied into his disdain for what he refers to as "rah-rah" coaching. Yet if HE can't get excited to play a game, it's no wonder that the players lack spark as well.

Anyone who watched that game yesterday could objectively see that NU was the better-coached team. More disciplined and certainly superior on special teams, highly motivated, etc. BK refuses to take any blame for the loss, and that's why he's this week's douchebag.


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A Notre Dame coach can kill students and support rapists and nobody calls for his job but God forbid he loses to Northwestern.


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Don't clap too enthusiastically. Kelly could well wind up as the BEARS' NEXT COACH!!! :lol:

He's already flirted with the former Eagles vacancy and commented about how "neat" it would be to coach in the NFL someday.

Sorry Chicagoans, but the main point here is not that losing to Northwestern is the reason Kelly is a douche. It's the squandering of great talent, regardless of opponent. When you're outcoached by NC's Larry Fedora and struggle to win even that game, your time at ND is running out.

If you think an average of 4 losses per season -- an avg. being RAPIDLY APPROACHED by BK -- is acceptable to ND alums, think again. You're looking at a coach who will need to go about 12-2 / 13-1 (playoff game included) next season to evade the hottest heat of any active college FB coach. Trust me, it will come. This isn't Tulane or Slippery Rock.


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Brian Kelly ends the previous week's loss to AZ ST. by losing his temper when Tim Prister asks him a legitimate question regarding the team's horrific 1st half against the Sun Devils. Yes you idiot, your team was poorly prepared, and YOU need to take the responsibility. And whether that qualifies under "flat" or not, semantics are no reason to blow your load on a respected media member.

Following yet another loss, this time to NU, Kelly blames the loss on his PLAYERS' "critical mistakes." Yet the true critical error was Kelly's stupidity in not burning clock to preserve a decent 2nd half lead in his home stadium.

THIRD KELLY LOSS OVER THE PAST FOUR GAMES. Get out of town, you douche, you're no better than Davie, Willingham, or Weis as you consistently lose 4 to 5 games per season despite having elite talent at your disposal. You refuse to take the blame for game mismanagement. You decide to go for 2 when a 1pt PAT would've taken you to a 12-point lead. This is an experienced head coach?

Congratulations to Wildcat fans who deserved the win and who have a NORMAL head coach, instead of the "head case" that is Brian Kelly. Here we go again as ND football is the laughingstock of college sports.


He didn't need to call the play late where the fumble happened.

All he had to do was call three kneel downs. That was the dumbest move in D-1 college football yesterday.

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I cant get a read on Kelly. I agree he's been bad in recent games but overall he's been miles better than every coach since Davie at least and probably since Holtz


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but overall he's been miles better than every coach since Davie at least and probably since Holtz

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I cant get a read on Kelly. I agree he's been bad in recent games but overall he's been miles better than every coach since Davie at least and probably since Holtz


true but he is still a bumslayer. They consistently get waxed when they play against the name programs of the nation and really rely on victories against aging relics as their signature wins.

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I cant get a read on Kelly. I agree he's been bad in recent games but overall he's been miles better than every coach since Davie at least and probably since Holtz


true but he is still a bumslayer. They consistently get waxed when they play against the name programs of the nation and really rely on victories against aging relics as their signature wins.

You're right

I guess I thought he was building towards something. First beat the bums (while beating some good teams too)

This defensive step back though is very troubling


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I cant get a read on Kelly. I agree he's been bad in recent games but overall he's been miles better than every coach since Davie at least and probably since Holtz


true but he is still a bumslayer. They consistently get waxed when they play against the name programs of the nation and really rely on victories against aging relics as their signature wins.

You're right

I guess I thought he was building towards something. First beat the bums (while beating some good teams too)

This defensive step back though is very troubling

The ihability to get his quarterback to stop turning the football is also.

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