They fucked up last year not having a back up QB.

They have a good back up now.

And they look unstoppable lately. Who in the NFC is playing anywhere near there level right now other than the Cardinals?

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I'd say a small part is luck. Him being available is somewhat lucky. Making the pick, having the organizational infrastructure, development program and complementary tools are far more important. If he was drafted by the Bears he would not be who he is today.

The Packers misevaluated him too then.

If they had traded up to the top ten to get him then maybe we could be having this conversation. To risk 23 other teams taking a future hall of famer would have been dumb.

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Their defense is suspect

I agree.

But that offense puts it on you so fast that it's really hard to keep up.

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They have the same backups as last year.

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Its luck. Lots of it. You take it, but its lucky.

He would be better if he were drafted by the Bears. He would have been starting from year 1 or 2.

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Flynn was not on the team when Rodgers got hurt.

I thought that you were a Packer fan.

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Are you saying that Flynn did not quarterback them last year and then was a back up when Rodgers came back?

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I'm saying that Seneca Wallace was not who they have to turn to this year.

Remember him? He's not on the roster like you said he was.

And Flynn was brought back in mid November last year.

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I didn't say anybody was on the roster, you said they fucked last year by not having a backup quarterback. I just stated they don't have one either this year, as it is the same guys backing him up.

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But it's not.

Seneca Wallace is long gone.

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Oh Crest

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You tripped over your own feet on your back pedal Hawger. It happens to all of us.

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I am feeling strong Crest, life is to good.

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If the Packers got lucky with Favre and Rodgers than you pretty much have to say every successful sports franchise ever has been lucky. Never any skill involved. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.

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Who said no skill was involved in the Rodgers pick?

But yes, most hall of fame draft picks end up being a lot of luck, even Andrew Luck.

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The Packers were lucky with Rodgers. It was not 100% luck as it was a good pick. Hindsight is always 20-20, but the talk is always how Rodgers 'fell' during the draft. As BRick correctly pointed out, if Packers really wanted to guarantee he was going to be their guy they would have traded up.

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They targeted Favre and traded for him. Props to them and thanks to Jerry Glanville if you are a Packers fan.

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That's fine. I dont really agree or disagree with that. I'm just saying that if you believe the Packers got lucky, then you believe every team to ever have long term success was too.

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How come the Bears can't get that lucky then?

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Because they trade draft picks for dead guys.

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Ask BRick. I think there was a lot of skill involved.

Edit: Nevermind, don't ask BRick. Frank just knocked that question out of the ballpark.

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They did twice

Butkus, Sayers draft and the 83 draft (Covert, Gault, Duerson, Thayer, Dent)

So the Pack gets lucky a lot, and we get lucky every quarter century or so?

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You pick a QB in the first round, it's not luck.

You draft a QB in the 6th round and keep 4 QB's because you liked who you drated so much, it's not luck.

Have had some holiday dinners with the scout who brought in Kurt Warner to the rams. He watched the guy play in the indoor league and thought there was no reason his accuracy, quick release and size couldnt translate to a solid backup QB. He watched tape on him from college and saw a much stronger arm. he interviewed the guy Warner told him he put on 25 pounds since college, work on lifting and naturally filled out.

The scout and the rams never predicted the guy as a starting QB, but they saw enough to give it a shot and it worked out. So it was lucky, it's always an element of luck, but the same Scout saw 50 other QBs and he didnt bring in any other QB.

Meanwhile The Bears are playing Cade Shane Jim! and Dick Jauron wasnt sure if Brian Urlacher should get on the field in front of the Barry minter!

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I think getting Tillman and Briggs in 03 was their other shot.

Could have potentially had Suggs, Briggs, and Tillman if they hadnt traded down.

No. The Packers are very good at drafting. They have a very high success rate.

They drafted a guy who is likely the greatest of all time when he is done after 23 other teams passed on him. There was a lot of luck involved in that. If they knew what Rodgers was, they aren't risking the Raiders taking a flyer on him.

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I think it's time for sweaty Teddy to move out or up somewhere else.

The new guy in charge can pick his own folks.

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