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Because of the circus trip.

Because living.

I believe this is the only trip to the Saddledome, one of the stranger NHL buildings still around. The Flames are continuing to play way over their heads, mostly on the backs of Jonas Hiller and the Mark gee-er-DANN-o/T.J. Brodie pairing. Bob Hartley has somehow become a terrific coach in the third act of his career, getting maximum effort out of everyone and also mindfucking John Tortorella straight out of the league. The Flames are scoring a lot and have a good power play, but they're weak on the kill, so that would seem to be the way to win this. Please don't make Hiller make 49 saves again.

I've never had ill will against the Flames; their run to the Final was a lot of fun. "Shirts Off For Kiprusoff" is the greatest rallying cry a playoff team has ever had. Still, gotta win this one if we have any hopes at all of catching St. Louis. And Nashville. And Winnipeg. But at least we have the Dallas Stars in the rear-view!

Good luck Adam Clendening!

Hawks: 10-7-1 (21), 7-8-3 adjusted (17), 23.475 expected
Flames: 12-6-2 (26), 10-7-3 adjusted (23), 23.451 expected

Hawks: 37.9 shots for (1st), 27.9 shots allowed (T-6th)
Flames: 26.2 shots for (29th), 29.3 shots allowed (15th)

Hawks: 2.667 scored (15th), 2.000 allowed (T-2nd), 0.667 differential (5th)
Flames: 3.050 scored (5th), 2.600 allowed (15th), 0.450 differential (9th)

Hawks: 7.8 PIM/game (2nd)
Flames: 10.0 PIM/game (T-11th)

Hawks: 13/73 19.0% on the power play (19th), 48/52 92.3% on the kill (1st)
Flames: 13/64 20.3% on the power play (10th), 43/57 75.4% on the kill (25th)

I will be flipping between this game and the Bulls-Kings game. I want to see what that Boogie Cousins is up to.

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this thread title, by chance, isn't referring to that awesome old kool moe dee song from back in the day now is it?

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No, the Will Smith song as a tribute to the thread about his dumbass kids, but that song interpolates the Kool Moe Dee song!

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No, the Will Smith song as a tribute to the thread about his dumbass kids, but that song interpolates the Kool Moe Dee song!


so what's worse.... what big willie did to that kool moe dee song, or jay-z's much needed update to the legendary 81-82 fearless four cut rockin it?

i'll never forget the day i hit up that record store by the massapequa LIRR station and found the original press of the fearless four rockin it on enjoy records. glorious shit, just like my still-unopened $8.99 stickered first press of the chronic and of course atliens. cant fuck with tito who i think was one of the first latino MCs in the game.

anywyas yeah hawks.... shit this will prolly be background fodder with the bulls while i've got the NFL game going. ill drink to that.

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Do my ears deceive me or does that Fearless Four song sample "The Man-Machine"?

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I'll be around tonight. My son and I are trying to get a quick LoL game in before puck drop.

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Do my ears deceive me or does that Fearless Four song sample "The Man-Machine"?


oh fuck i think you nailed that one. i had no fucking idea that kraftwerk had that going on.... and i see comments like OMFG GUYS THAT JAY-Z/FOXY BROWN SONG SAMPLED THIS KRAFTWERK! ....ha!

but yeah... wow, go figure that rap/hiphop/etc is all one big giant orgy of sampling and resampling and whatnot. i just have no idea about kraftwerk really. about the only thing kraftwork did that i knew was this fabulous video that came from the show that followed up detroit's legendary "ghetto soul train in a fire hazard" show "the scene"

oh and also trouble funk did one of if not their (kraftwerk's) biggest songs better than they did. but that seems to be their lot in life.

i've always said if tributosaurus goes out and does trouble funk i'll be there.

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Oh, Kraftwerk is spectacular. Big fan. If you're still on the lookout for sample material, you can't go wrong with Kraftwerk. There's such a rawness and purity to it that makes it perfect for more messing around with.

"Planet Rock" by Soulsonic Force is another song that uses "Trans-Europe Express" better than the actual "Trans-Europe Express".

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You guys lose me when you talk music......

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Oh, Kraftwerk is spectacular. Big fan. If you're still on the lookout for sample material, you can't go wrong with Kraftwerk. There's such a rawness and purity to it that makes it perfect for more messing around with.

"Planet Rock" by Soulsonic Force is another song that uses "Trans-Europe Express" better than the actual "Trans-Europe Express".


i gotta give you credit because most people would go "planet rock by afrika bambaata" but yeah holy shit i never thought about that but again you're right... except bamabtta/SSF sampled the later on part while fearless four did the intro keys damn.

i can't figure out of the the old fast eddie LP i gave away a couple'a months ago either is some old/original-ish uses of many industry-standard samples or where they came from. prolly the former.... but still fun to hear that stuff on some 87-88 chicago/early-acid stuff. i've given away too much vinyl this year... all of my KMFDM vinyl, that fast eddie LP.... just... ugh.

but then again by the time i got my sirius in 06 and got backspin 43 to educate me on all this shit (and i fell in love with trouble funk because i was listening one night and i said WHAT THE FUCK PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP ME UP?!?! DUDE THAT'S WHAT SQUAREPUSHER SAMPLED FOR FAT CONTROLLER!!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT IF SQUAREPUSHER SAMPLED THIS I KNOW I SHOULD BE LISTENING TO IT and blam, i discover trouble funk's "pump me up" and shortly thereafter favorite funk band ensues.

i made my own trouble funk shit with the still smokin 7" for the front/back of it. it goes good with my camoflague expos jersey =D

but yeah i used to think that old louis logic cut planet rock had something to do with bambaata. hot damn. ah well.

hey dennis, this is some oldschool rap/electro talk here. this is about that time you remind yourself that you've got a wife and kids and $$$$ and yeah seriously. it's not like i'm dropping links and CH is dropping easily searchable terms so you can find out on your own. that'd be a lot to ask of you on a busy work-night i know.

and the thought of you listening to squarepusher's fat controller especially at 2:50 right when tom goes off on the fretless bass (1 man band about 21-22 when he made it).... well that makes me smile cuz you'd be flummoxed.

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That was a nice goal. Carcillo's was too. Hiller looks very beatable tonight.

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Sini, my posts will mainly be sports, business or politics. No music and very little pop culture stuff.

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Sini, my posts will mainly be sports, business or politics. No music and very little pop culture stuff.


so am i to read into this that you're neither popular nor cultured? =D

wow miss a little miss a lot. 2 goals here? oh well so much for that 2 goal lead. nice job byron.

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Sini, my posts will mainly be sports, business or politics. No music and very little pop culture stuff.


so am i to read into this that you're neither popular nor cultured? =D

wow miss a little miss a lot. 2 goals here? oh well so much for that 2 goal lead. nice job byron.


I have no interest in music, hollywood or reality tv, etc. If by cultured you mean the arts, then no I am not cultured. If you want to talk Indonesian politics or about Boko Haram, then I have thoughts.

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What horseshit calls. Hawks blow yet another two-goal lead.

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What horseshit calls. Hawks blow yet another two-goal lead.


I only get worried when they have a three goal lead. :wink:

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I watch a lot of games around the NHL and I don't think there's a team that's worse at holding leads than the Blackhawks. Most teams go up by two and stay up. This one is really getting away from them.

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We can only hope this is regular season indifference. Too many of our stars not making a difference for long periods of time.

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yeah what the fuck i go out for a smoke and that 2nd goal happens. goddammit.

and hey dennis hear ya go. play that for the family sometime and tell them you've sworn off rock for some "Real shit" --- plz tell me what they think

and if they have anything to say about how much that song sucks, well the guy who made it did include this manifesto with copies of the EP back in 2002:

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Some people would say, in looking at my career, that it betrays a confused musical standpoint; optimistically it is termed unpredictable, more derisively it is said to be self-cancelling, in that within the wide aesthetic range in the work, one part contradicts and undermines another, resulting in something akin to the mixing of all the different paints on the palette. This is an important point to realise: I take no refuge behind standpoints. This has manifested itself as part of my fundamental creative aspiration- to see across as opposed to seeing from.

At first, there needs to be the presence both of a view rooted in inherited opinion, effectively treated as transparent and assumed to be inherently correct, and a will to play with that view, to endlessly distort it and to ultimately be prepared to destroy it. A kind of simultaneous faith and critical ingenuity are required as, without the latter one is bound to a reverential repetition of received wisdom, and without the former ones sparks quickly die away once the entrenched standpoint is supposedly vanquished.

To make a lethal attack on, say a musical standpoint, that standpoint must first be loved, understood and accommodated before it can be assailed, and this problem is exemplified with much youth culture that seeks to destroy its perceived antithetical enemy simply by contradicting it. It is not enough to behead your enemy, they must first be invited in and made to feel welcome in order to be comprehensively destroyed i.e. they must be in some way incorporated.

This process should seem familiar as it is the time honoured way of dissipating polarised energy away from musical movements: by making them popular. What I am doing is turning this system on its head: instead of incorporating isolated views into mainstream equivalents, for the sake of destroying culture in the name of the corporation, I incorporate isolated views into my standpoint, indeed to the point of seemingly cancelling out a coherent view, for the sake of destroying culture in the name of the individual. In this sense I advocate completely respect-less exploitation of all forms available, as this is the only road that could possibly render an individual immune to being dissolved into mainstream castration, insofar as the music industry as it stands feeds most happily on artists with discrete viewpoints:identity-cults can only be effectively generated from one dimensional personalities. Personal identity must be entirely subjugated and rendered formless in order to have any sort of freedom in our era.

A common error is mistaking contradiction or negation of a consensus view for freedom; this leads to phenomena symbiotic with mainstream culture and equally poisonous i.e. movements who identify themselves exclusively with a cynical commentary on the mainstream. This is a dustbin for so called artists: diametrically opposed to the mainstream, they are still very much obliged to march to its tune, or of course its inversion. Being conscious of the fallacy in their claim of independence, the views always deliberately remain self-contained, and just as a surfeit of cultural control gives rise to overweight smug cretins, an almost total absence of it gives rise to the revolting snide dinginess of the eternally subjugated. The lesson is that no punks have yet been punk enough - rejecting and negating the mainstream just as quickly becomes subsumed in its own poisonous cliches, (thus often becoming eligible for mass production).

It is essential for any creator to want to negate and to reject, but this has to be coupled with a consummate understanding of the phenomena one seeks to reject. Otherwise, not understanding the language of negation, the object of the negating will misunderstands what is being shouted at it, and carries on regardless. I have learned to see inside every musicians head because, in order to prevent myself from being fully incorporated into any musical ghetto, I have to incorporate every musical ghetto into myself. I aspire to make music useless as a commodity i.e. a prop for the identities and personalities of the mindless; and if this is all that music constitutes in our era, then to maximise every conceivable parameter until it completely destroys itself


that's right. ask them what musical ghettos they've allowed into their head and then one they go there they can begin to love him, and then and ONLY THEN can they hate that fantastic song you played for them.

and yeah holy shit the hawks have me fucked up here. are they this bad this year?

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The Hawks must lead the league in giving up back to back goals in a short period of time. Very frustrating.

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The Hawks must lead the league in giving up back to back goals in a short period of time. Very frustrating.


the hawks have clearly learned to see in side every hockey player's head because in order to prevent themselves from being fully incorporated into any hockey ghetto, they have to incorporate every hockey ghetto into themselves.

and they're definitely incorporating hockey ghettos into themselves this year, i tell you what!

(and you thought my TLDR quote was off-topic! ha!)

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Sini, too electronic sounding. I got through thirty seconds and that was enough. Give me some funky cold medina.

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Sini, too electronic sounding. I got through thirty seconds and that was enough. Give me some funky cold medina.


any chance i could interest you in some brilliant people ripping off the pet shop boys? =D

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oh shit, another lead to blow! good job seabrook!

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oh shit, another lead to blow! good job seabrook!

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yep. nailed that one.

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At least we're not the Winnipeg Jets. Gave up the tying goal at 53:00 and the go-ahead at 55:10. All three teams ahead of us are going to lose in regulation tonight. It'd be nice for the Hawks to win this.

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