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I think the whole cultural ill of The Participation Bauble is overstated. When kids get the white/yellow ribbon, they know they're losers, and other kids have the evidence to prove it. Why do you think I made sure to get a blue ribbon in the 4th grade Survival Run?

Ill admit I'm the first one to rail about participation trophies and the like but I gotta tell ya, the thought of rogue jr standing at the finish line with tears running down his face after finishing 4th in a race or something is already breaking me up inside and has me wondering what I'm going to buy him to make it better :lol:


yes, that's because of the fact that the trophies and ribbons are for the parents, not the kids. as GD correctly pointed out, kids don't care about them. parents do though. they just gotta brag about something...and then DRINK WINE TONIGHT!


It is not so much the bragging that interests them. They are highly sensitive to their child experiencing any pain, rejection, failure. They think the token insulates the child.

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They are highly sensitive to their child experiencing any pain, rejection, failure. They think the token insulates the child.

Obviously you cant coddle them, but its also understandable to not want your toddler or little kid to feel those things.

I know its part of life, but its hard for parents to let that happen
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They are highly sensitive to their child experiencing any pain, rejection, failure. They think the token insulates the child.

Obviously you cant coddle them, but its also understandable to not want your toddler or little kid to feel those things.

I know its part of life, but its hard for parents to let that happen


of course you don't want them to feel it but you cannot let them live with a false reality

Everyone has a strength just as much as a weakness. Failure helps to highlight the areas of strength and in the end actually solidifies a strength.

Pain motivates (not the AP kind of pain).

Think about your life. You avoid pain much more than you seek pleasure.

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good dolphin wrote:
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They are highly sensitive to their child experiencing any pain, rejection, failure. They think the token insulates the child.

Obviously you cant coddle them, but its also understandable to not want your toddler or little kid to feel those things.

I know its part of life, but its hard for parents to let that happen


of course you don't want them to feel it but you cannot let them live with a false reality

Everyone has a strength just as much as a weakness. Failure helps to highlight the areas of strength and in the end actually solidifies a strength.

Pain motivates (not the AP kind of pain).

Think about your life. You avoid pain much more than you seek pleasure.

Agreed. Im just saying it's easy to see why parents fall into that, especially at toddler ages
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All I could find about the Sox TV deal is $450,000 per game broadcast on Comcast SportsNet Chicago. Fee for games broadcast on WGN: N/A. Didn't listed the expiration date. Sox got the same figure as the Cubs which is a pretty sweetheart deal. I wonder when expiration of their deal is.

I wonder if you buy the Sox if Jerry would let the buyer get the corresponding 20% Comcast share. But since the buyer would be moving them to Vegas who cares?

Move into free stadium with cheap lease, sign a TV deal, collect revenue sharing payments for being in a small market. Write up a nice prospectus for buyers on the cash flow and flip for a tidy sum.


Known broadcast rights revenue dollar value for 2014, (according to known public records)

Arizona Diamondbacks FS Arizona $31 million
Atlanta Braves FS Sports South/Sports South $20-$30 million
Baltimore Orioles MASN $29 million
Boston Red Sox NESN $60 million
Chicago Cubs CSN Chicago/WGN $50 million (combined)
Chicago White Sox CSN Chicago $45.5 million
Cincinnati Reds FS Ohio $30 million
Cleveland Indians FS Ohio $40 million
Colorado Rockies Root Rocky Mountain $20 million
Detroit Tigers FS Detroit $40 million
Houston Astros CSN Houston $80 million
Kansas City Royals FS Kansas City $20 million
Los Angeles Angels FS West $150 million
Los Angeles Dodgers SportsNet LA $340 million
Miami Marlins FS Florida $18 million
Milwaukee Brewers FS Wisconsin $20 million
Minnesota Twins FS North $29 million
New York Mets SNY $65 million (inc. over time)
New York Yankees YES $90 million (inc. over time)
Oakland A’s CSN California $43-$48 million
Philadelphia Phillies CSN Philadelphia $35 million
Pittsburgh Pirates Root Pittsburgh $18 million
San Diego Padres FS San Diego $60 million
San Francisco Giants CSN Bay Area $30 million
Seattle Mariners Root Northwest $115 million
St. Louis Cardinals FS Midwest $25-28 million
Tampa Bay Rays SunSports $20 million
Texas Rangers FS Southwest $150 million
Toronto Blue Jays Rogers Sportsnet $36 million
Washington Nationals MASN $29 million

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Chicago Cubs CSN Chicago/WGN $50 million (combined)
Chicago White Sox CSN Chicago $45.5 million

Man with a TV revenue advantage like that thr Cubs could go all out and nab the booming Thunder Bay ON market.
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The Brewers only get 20 million :lol: :(

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Chicago Cubs CSN Chicago/WGN $50 million (combined)
Chicago White Sox CSN Chicago $45.5 million

Man with a TV revenue advantage like that thr Cubs could go all out and nab the booming Thunder Bay ON market.
Now we see why bigfan is pushing the "Sox to Vegas and Fargo" stuff. :lol:

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Apparently Buster wrote about the possibility of a sale earlier this year. Anyone have that link? \
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Apparently Buster wrote about the possibility of a sale earlier this year. Anyone have that link? \


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Vegas is a LOCK to be willing to build a dome for any team that wants to move, so you dont need to wait on local political fights before you go ahead and cut the deal, but many other places would be willing to look at a team. San Antonio, Okla, Carolina....



Henderson Tan Sox...

or Boulder City Wet Sox?

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To clarify, the Yankees and Mets have deals that escalate... I couldn't really understand the algorithym and legal jargon to explain these in more detail (if anyone cares)

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None of it changes the fact JORR said the Sox are going to be sold!



To be accurate.....not only that they will be sold (someday they will), but that the sale was IMMINENT!!!

Which I called BULLSHIT on very quickly.

carry on....

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None of it changes the fact JORR said the Sox are going to be sold!



To be accurate.....not only that they will be sold (someday they will), but that the sale was IMMINENT!!!

Which I called BULLSHIT on very quickly.

carry on....

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SomeGuy wrote:
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None of it changes the fact JORR said the Sox are going to be sold!



To be accurate.....not only that they will be sold (someday they will), but that the sale was IMMINENT!!!

Which I called BULLSHIT on very quickly.

carry on....

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Just never gets old for you huh? Kinda like a 6 year old and a fart joke.....

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All I could find about the Sox TV deal is $450,000 per game broadcast on Comcast SportsNet Chicago. Fee for games broadcast on WGN: N/A. Didn't listed the expiration date. Sox got the same figure as the Cubs which is a pretty sweetheart deal. I wonder when expiration of their deal is.

I wonder if you buy the Sox if Jerry would let the buyer get the corresponding 20% Comcast share. But since the buyer would be moving them to Vegas who cares?

Move into free stadium with cheap lease, sign a TV deal, collect revenue sharing payments for being in a small market. Write up a nice prospectus for buyers on the cash flow and flip for a tidy sum.


Known broadcast rights revenue dollar value for 2014, (according to known public records)

Arizona Diamondbacks FS Arizona $31 million
Atlanta Braves FS Sports South/Sports South $20-$30 million
Baltimore Orioles MASN $29 million
Boston Red Sox NESN $60 million
Chicago Cubs CSN Chicago/WGN $50 million (combined)
Chicago White Sox CSN Chicago $45.5 million
Cincinnati Reds FS Ohio $30 million
Cleveland Indians FS Ohio $40 million
Colorado Rockies Root Rocky Mountain $20 million
Detroit Tigers FS Detroit $40 million
Houston Astros CSN Houston $80 million
Kansas City Royals FS Kansas City $20 million
Los Angeles Angels FS West $150 million
Los Angeles Dodgers SportsNet LA $340 million
Miami Marlins FS Florida $18 million
Milwaukee Brewers FS Wisconsin $20 million
Minnesota Twins FS North $29 million
New York Mets SNY $65 million (inc. over time)
New York Yankees YES $90 million (inc. over time)
Oakland A’s CSN California $43-$48 million
Philadelphia Phillies CSN Philadelphia $35 million
Pittsburgh Pirates Root Pittsburgh $18 million
San Diego Padres FS San Diego $60 million
San Francisco Giants CSN Bay Area $30 million
Seattle Mariners Root Northwest $115 million
St. Louis Cardinals FS Midwest $25-28 million
Tampa Bay Rays SunSports $20 million
Texas Rangers FS Southwest $150 million
Toronto Blue Jays Rogers Sportsnet $36 million
Washington Nationals MASN $29 million


I knew the Dodgers had a good TV deal, but wow. That certainly explains how they have all the do-re-me to go buying up free agents as they have.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Chicago Cubs CSN Chicago/WGN $50 million (combined)
Chicago White Sox CSN Chicago $45.5 million

Man with a TV revenue advantage like that thr Cubs could go all out and nab the booming Thunder Bay ON market.
Now we see why bigfan is pushing the "Sox to Vegas and Fargo" stuff. :lol:


Not pushing it at all. Please feel free to find the origination of the reason for the Vegss Sox RUMOR.

MLB wants to sell franchises, not move them.

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I knew the Dodgers had a good TV deal, but wow. That certainly explains how they have all the do-re-me to go buying up free agents as they have.

And no one can watch the games because the cable providers won't pay the carriage fees for the Dodgers' channel AND the Lakers' channel AND the Angels/Kings/Ducks/Clippers channels.

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How does one define IMMINENT around here?

Bob I wanna hang out and drink cheap liquor and tell stories!! Where you been?

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How does one define IMMINENT around here?

Bob I wanna hang out and drink cheap liquor and tell stories!! Where you been?


Bob is fun

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I know where to find Bob! lol

almost stopped in Friday night, Bob...you at Stormys Friday night?

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Bob lives in Winnetka??? :lol: :lol:

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I went to the 1st half of that Cats-Illini slugfest Saturday and then to Stormy's!!!!


Was shmoozing at Sunset Ridge Country Club friday night with judge Smails, came down willow about midnight...thats why almosy stopped in.

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How does one define IMMINENT around here?


Give it some time, Bob. It took the goofs from Omaha three years to buy the Cubs.

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