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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:00 pm 
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Must have been awhile ago. I do talk in Cub threads but I mentioned LaRouche in one?

No. The reserve. You brought up the Cubs in this thread when discussing the LaRoche signing. Or more specifically, Cubs fans and how they would react if the Cubs had signed 'cha boy.


Ah. Oh well. Carry on.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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I'm not sure you're correct about Cubs fans not allowing Sox fans to discuss the Cubs at all.
:lol:

How many names do you want of people complaining about it?

As many as you can name, with linked examples. Please then create a searchable index using C#, so that I may peruse the data at my leisure.
Its very easy to find. There are numerous examples of this across both Sox and Cubs sections. If you wanted to, you could easily find more than a few examples yourself with probably less than 4 or 5 minutes of searching.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:16 am 
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Anthony Rizzo will never have the career that LaRoche has already had. Now, I'm not saying LaRoche will be better next season in his mid-thirties, but he certainly might be.

:lol:


Attn: RPB!!!!!!

Here's a guy who is just certain Rizzo is going to have a better career than a guy with 114 OPS+ after 11 seasons.

IMU is not an exception. He's the typical Cub fan. Please remember this when Sox fans point out the unrealistic expectations of MOST Cubs fans.

MOST Sox fans are trailer trash meth addicts I guess

No, you're wrong. All your thoughts on the Cubs and Sox are completely slanted.

Should I put ATTN JORR every time BadRogue makes a post about how the plan might not work. or JimmyPasta or Curious Hair or Mr. Reason or Kirkwood or Jaw Breaker.

There's 20 of those that you ignore. Then IMU or Denis pops up with one post and you throw around words like 'most'

You see what you want to see. You're doing what you accuse Saber people of doing

You have your conclusion- "Cub fans are idiots" and then you go about looking for proof

If you want to lie to yourself and believe that most Cub fans are idiots (to make yourself feel superior i guess? Be my guest. I disagree.)


Im going back on a pledge to not defend Cub fans because you called me out by name. I really have wasted too much time worrying about opinions on the fanbase from people who hate the team.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:18 am 
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Anthony Rizzo will never have the career that LaRoche has already had. Now, I'm not saying LaRoche will be better next season in his mid-thirties, but he certainly might be.

:lol:


Attn: RPB!!!!!!

Here's a guy who is just certain Rizzo is going to have a better career than a guy with 114 OPS+ after 11 seasons.

IMU is not an exception. He's the typical Cub fan. Please remember this when Sox fans point out the unrealistic expectations of MOST Cubs fans.

MOST Sox fans are trailer trash meth addicts I guess

No, you're wrong. All your thoughts on the Cubs and Sox are completely slanted.

Should I put ATTN JORR every time BadRogue makes a post about how the plan might not work. or JimmyPasta or Curious Hair or Mr. Reason or Kirkwood or Jaw Breaker.

There's 20 of those that you ignore. Then IMU or Denis pops up with one post and you throw around words like 'most'

You see what you want to see. You're doing what you accuse Saber people of doing

You have your conclusion- "Cub fans are idiots" and then you go about looking for proof

If you want to lie to yourself and believe that most Cub fans are idiots (to make yourself feel superior i guess? Be my guest. I disagree.)


Im going back on a pledge to not defend Cub fans because you called me out by name. I really have wasted too much time worrying about opinions on the fanbase from people who hate the team.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Rizzo will have a better career than Laroche.



Probably similar.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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ATTN Rogers Park Bryan - Do you think it is reasonable to think Anthony Rizzo will have a better career than Adam Laroche? If you do think it is reasonable, do you expect it to happen?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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As many as you can name, with linked examples. Please then create a searchable index using C#, so that I may peruse the data at my leisure.
12 posts later, in this same thread;
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ATTN Rogers Park Bryan - Do you think it is reasonable to think Anthony Rizzo will have a better career than Adam Laroche? If you do think it is reasonable, do you expect it to happen?
See, I told you it was easy to find :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:43 am 
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I would like to see the rest of the money distributed between a middle of the rotation righty and top relief talent.

I think they've spent enough on 30+ year olds. I'd like to see Hahn swing a couple trades and get some more young talent in the organIzation.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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As many as you can name, with linked examples. Please then create a searchable index using C#, so that I may peruse the data at my leisure.
12 posts later, in this same thread;
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ATTN Rogers Park Bryan - Do you think it is reasonable to think Anthony Rizzo will have a better career than Adam Laroche? If you do think it is reasonable, do you expect it to happen?
See, I told you it was easy to find :lol:

We've already established who started this line of discussion. I'm sorry your fellow Sox fans aren't on the same page as you. I offered to move the Rizzo discussion elsewhere and the offer was declined.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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There are plenty of examples in this section started by Cubs fans.

There are SEVEN threads on the front page of this section alone started by bigfan. Go read them and then tell me Cubs fans don't troll in the Sox section.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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There are plenty of examples in this section started by Cubs fans.

There are SEVEN threads on the front page of this section alone started by bigfan. Go read them and then tell me Cubs fans don't troll in the Sox section.

bigfan is an outlier.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:03 am 
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ATTN Rogers Park Bryan - Do you think it is reasonable to think Anthony Rizzo will have a better career than Adam Laroche? If you do think it is reasonable, do you expect it to happen?

I think your position is pretty reasonable once you explained it.

I think your original :lol: at the notion was a little off. I mean he could end up having a worse career.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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ATTN Rogers Park Bryan - Do you think it is reasonable to think Anthony Rizzo will have a better career than Adam Laroche? If you do think it is reasonable, do you expect it to happen?

I think your position is pretty reasonable once you explained it.

I think your original :lol: at the notion was a little off. I mean he could end up having a worse career.

And Brett Jackson could end up still putting up monster seasons.

But the thought still deserved to be laughed at.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
There are plenty of examples in this section started by Cubs fans.

There are SEVEN threads on the front page of this section alone started by bigfan. Go read them and then tell me Cubs fans don't troll in the Sox section.

bigfan is an outlier.
:lol: If you say so.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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ATTN Rogers Park Bryan - Do you think it is reasonable to think Anthony Rizzo will have a better career than Adam Laroche? If you do think it is reasonable, do you expect it to happen?

I think your position is pretty reasonable once you explained it.

I think your original :lol: at the notion was a little off. I mean he could end up having a worse career.

And Brett Jackson could end up still putting up monster seasons.

But the thought still deserved to be laughed at.

No, it really didnt. They are very similar players and longevity can never be assumed.

Rizzo has the potential to be better, but it's far from a sure thing.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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No, it really didnt. They are very similar players and longevity can never be assumed.

Rizzo has the potential to be better, but it's far from a sure thing.

Bryan - you seem to be confused. Let's look at the sentence I laughed at.
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Anthony Rizzo will never have the career that LaRoche has already had. Now, I'm not saying LaRoche will be better next season in his mid-thirties, but he certainly might be.

:lol:

Who was the one guaranteeing something?

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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No, it really didnt. They are very similar players and longevity can never be assumed.

Rizzo has the potential to be better, but it's far from a sure thing.

Bryan - you seem to be confused. Let's look at the sentence I laughed at.
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Anthony Rizzo will never have the career that LaRoche has already had. Now, I'm not saying LaRoche will be better next season in his mid-thirties, but he certainly might be.

:lol:

Who was the one guaranteeing something?

Alright. I take it back. I thought JORR said probably.


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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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Joe Orr is just an outlier.

He may be. I'm not going to begin lumping Sox fans into large numbers of stereotyped personalities.

Remember...I'm the pro-State of Palestine guy.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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No, it really didnt. They are very similar players and longevity can never be assumed.

Rizzo has the potential to be better, but it's far from a sure thing.

Bryan - you seem to be confused. Let's look at the sentence I laughed at.
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Anthony Rizzo will never have the career that LaRoche has already had. Now, I'm not saying LaRoche will be better next season in his mid-thirties, but he certainly might be.

:lol:

Who was the one guaranteeing something?


There are no guarantees, but I'm confident in what I said. Of course, when it becomes evident you won't notice as you'll be busy fantasizing about the Cubs' next big thing.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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LaRoche's 162 game average is 27 hr, 92 RBI, .811 OPS, 35 doubles, 78 R. Its not unfathomable to say that Rizzo may not hit those numbers.

IMU and Joe Orr are both wrong. Its not a sure thing he will surpass them, but its not a sure thing he will fall short either.

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Its not a sure thing he will surpass them, but its not a sure thing he will fall short either.



Right. My money is simply on the guy who has already done it. That certainly isn't something they should elicit a derisive :lol: .

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Steroid testing, huge strike zone and specialization of pitching. I'd bet against Rizzo.


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Steroid testing, huge strike zone and specialization of pitching. I'd bet against Rizzo.

I hope CSFMB is around in 13 years.

What are the stakes?

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You are the one who laughed it off. You seem confident enough to give odds and set the stakes.

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 Post subject: Re: 2015 Off Season
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You are the one who laughed it off. You seem confident enough to give odds and set the stakes.

Usually the one that suggests the bet provides that info.

I'm fairly confident, though, yes.

Rizzo is likely to have more years in MLB, so time works in his favor. That should take care of HR, RBI, WAR... all of the stacking numbers.

.264 BA and .811 OPS are solid career numbers, but at a pretty young age Rizzo has shown the ability to eclipse those by a decent margin. I don't think Rizzo is a finished product, so I could see him further improving and having several seasons .950 or 1.000 OPS.

Laroche only surpassed a .950 OPS in one season.

If Kirkwood declines to suggest the bet, I'll think of something.

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This bet is too long and hard to track. Pick something easier. I say Baez has better numbers than ya boy Castro this year.


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