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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:12 pm 
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I dont think I defend Steve, but I don't jump on the Gangbang with you and the same others. I guess that means I defend him?


When you are on one of your goofy Obama rants, and I post a "Thanks, Obama" gif, you delete it immediately, and usually follow it up with a PM telling me to knock it off. I assume you delete it, because you don't like it.

For the record, I'm not asking you to censor Steve. But, if you prune all of the mundane crap that you do, but allow every piece of his garbage to stand, and most of your thoughts on this topic are similar, do you really not see how I draw parallels?

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You asked open ended questions...."Why Does Big Fan.....?


So now we can wait for others do anwer your questions....or did you want me to answer the questions as if "Big Fan" is some 3rd person entity?

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You asked open ended questions...."Why Does Big Fan.....?


So now we can wait for others do anwer your questions....or did you want me to answer the questions as if "Big Fan" is some 3rd person entity?


It might be fun.

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I dont think I defend Steve, but I don't jump on the Gangbang with you and the same others. I guess that means I defend him?


When you are on one of your goofy Obama rants, and I post a "Thanks, Obama" gif, you delete it immediately, and usually follow it up with a PM telling me to knock it off. I assume you delete it, because you don't like it.

For the record, I'm not asking you to censor Steve. But, if you prune all of the mundane crap that you do, but allow every piece of his garbage to stand, and most of your thoughts on this topic are similar, do you really not see how I draw parallels?


1. Once again, nothing here has been deleted in this thread regarding your opinion.

2. If someone said you are a card carrying KKK member and took personal shots at you I would delete it as well and I am 100% sure there is plenty of bad shit posted about Steve here that if it was posted about You and many others would be asked to be removed.

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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You asked open ended questions...."Why Does Big Fan.....?


So now we can wait for others do anwer your questions....or did you want me to answer the questions as if "Big Fan" is some 3rd person entity?


It might be fun.


So now you understand what you did?

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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bigfan wrote:
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You asked open ended questions...."Why Does Big Fan.....?


So now we can wait for others do anwer your questions....or did you want me to answer the questions as if "Big Fan" is some 3rd person entity?


It might be fun.


So now you understand what you did?


Leash does, but leash sees no harm in this.

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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Biggie, just to be clear, you did this in the thread...

Biggie: I hate these protestors.
Leash: Why do they bother you so much? It seems odd.
Biggie: Why didn't you go down to City Hall and protest then?

Do you see the logical problem in your argument here?

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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1. Once again, nothing here has been deleted in this thread regarding your opinion.


I have confirmed as much. You have pruned many things over the years, presumably because you don't like them. You have said that the "Thanks, Obama" gifs are played out, and you don't like them. When I post them, you delete them, and tell me to knock it off, via PM. Steve's posts are pretty played out as well, but they remain. It stands to reason that you don't have a problem with them.

It's clear that you don't understand what I am saying. Let's just move on from this.

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2. If someone said you are a card carrying KKK member and took personal shots at you I would delete it as well and I am 100% sure there is plenty of bad shit posted about Steve here that if it was posted about You and many others would be asked to be removed.


I didn't take any personal shots at you. I commented on yet another thread on this topic, that you started.

I have had plenty of personal shots taken at me over the years. I just don't cry to you about them. Not one time. Ever. I handle it myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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Biggie, just to be clear, you did this in the thread...

Biggie: I hate these protestors.
Leash: Why do they bother you so much? It seems odd.
Biggie: Why didn't you go down to City Hall and protest then?

Do you see the logical problem in your argument here?


I see you making up quotes "I hate these protestors"

then you asking me to defend my HATE of them.

calling the 35 kids walking down a street in Utah or Scottsdale Douchebags on a Saturday night is a far cry from thinking I hate them.

I Guess the quick stop at the cell phone store and breaking the windows really sent the message home, to bad the police showed up before they could break the window to get the phones and Yes, I would laugh my ass off at a group of 5-10 kids trying to break a plate glass window and not being able to.

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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1. Once again, nothing here has been deleted in this thread regarding your opinion.


I have confirmed as much. You have pruned many things over the years, presumably because you don't like them. You have said that the "Thanks, Obama" gifs are played out, and you don't like them. When I post them, you delete them, and tell me to knock it off, via PM. Steve's posts are pretty played out as well, but they remain. It stands to reason that you don't have a problem with them.

It's clear that you don't understand what I am saying. Let's just move on from this.

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2. If someone said you are a card carrying KKK member and took personal shots at you I would delete it as well and I am 100% sure there is plenty of bad shit posted about Steve here that if it was posted about You and many others would be asked to be removed.


I didn't take any personal shots at you. I commented on yet another thread on this topic, that you started.

I have had plenty of personal shots taken at me over the years. I just don't cry to you about them. Not one time. Ever. I handle it myself.


As you have mentioned the deletion of your many "THANKS OBAMA" gifs many times here and in the past it seems that it sure burns your ass and has nothing to do with this post.

Not really sure how you can say you didnt take personal shots at me when you say I make racist statements, you consider me racist and join others in KKK meetings. I will consider those personal shots at me, but feel free to correct me if this is wrong. Maybe you meant something else?

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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1. Once again, nothing here has been deleted in this thread regarding your opinion.


I have confirmed as much. You have pruned many things over the years, presumably because you don't like them. You have said that the "Thanks, Obama" gifs are played out, and you don't like them. When I post them, you delete them, and tell me to knock it off, via PM. Steve's posts are pretty played out as well, but they remain. It stands to reason that you don't have a problem with them.

It's clear that you don't understand what I am saying. Let's just move on from this.

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2. If someone said you are a card carrying KKK member and took personal shots at you I would delete it as well and I am 100% sure there is plenty of bad shit posted about Steve here that if it was posted about You and many others would be asked to be removed.


I didn't take any personal shots at you. I commented on yet another thread on this topic, that you started.

I have had plenty of personal shots taken at me over the years. I just don't cry to you about them. Not one time. Ever. I handle it myself.


As you have mentioned the deletion of your many "THANKS OBAMA" gifs many times here and in the past it seems that it sure burns your ass and has nothing to do with this post.

Not really sure how you can say you didnt take personal shots at me when you say I make racist statements, you consider me racist and join others in KKK meetings. I will consider those personal shots at me, but feel free to correct me if this is wrong. Maybe you meant something else?


You clearly don't understand my point about the GIFs. You don't like them, so they get deleted. Doesn't it stand to reason that you are perfectly fine with the posts that you do not prune?

Those aren't personal shots, dude. I'm responding to your posts. When your posts read eerily similar to Steve's, you can see why I draw parallels. You obviously feel strongly about the protesters, since you felt the need to start another thread about it. I must have missed all of the threads you started calling out the cops/Zimmerman/etc. for shooting unarmed people. Your focus is almost always on the aftermath, and the behavior of the victims, which are usually minorities.

When all of the crap went down with Reardon, you told me that you didn't want certain things associated with this site. Making an obvious joke about an anonymous person, or mult, is completely off limits. Unapologetic racism is just fine, apparently. You seem to have a problem with one, but not the other.

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
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So, you are saying I am racist because you have determined that I allow those who you deam to be racists to post and I delete your "THANKS OBAMA" Pics.

Plus, you have obviousely now gone back into years of posting trying to find anything in the Zimmerman threads that you can construe as racist.

You have now made numerous posts in this thread about me being a racist and a member of of the KKK, with Steve.

All based on my posts that I think 30 kids protesting in Scottsdale, who tried to loot a store, but couldnt break the glass are ineffective in conveying any decent message.

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You also mentioned protesters in Utah and added a sideswipe on Occupy, so it's not as if you're totally limiting yourself to disliking violent/unlawful protests (which I think all of us would also dislike!).

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So, you are saying I am racist because you have determined that I allow those who you deam to be racists to post and I delete your "THANKS OBAMA" Pics.


You don't understand. Let's move on.

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Plus, you have obviousely now gone back into years of posting trying to find anything in the Zimmerman threads that you can construe as racist.


So, something said two years ago is off limits? What is the statute of limitations?

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You have now made numerous posts in this thread about me being a racist and a member of of the KKK, with Steve.


I said that you prune the thoughts of others, but you always defend his right to speak his mind. Combine this with eerily similar thoughts on subjects such as these, and it's easy to draw parallels. I'm just repeating myself at this point.


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All based on my posts that I think 30 kids protesting in Scottsdale, who tried to loot a store, but couldnt break the glass are ineffective in conveying any decent message.


It wasn't based on that, at all, but keep on keeping on.

The white knights aren't stepping in on your behalf, and they are reading this.

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You also mentioned protesters in Utah and added a sideswipe on Occupy, so it's not as if you're totally limiting yourself to disliking violent/unlawful protests (which I think all of us would also dislike!).

Yes
Feel free to include the 30 kids in Utah as well.

Did the 1% and 99% become 2% and 98% or did anything change from the OCCUPY movement.

I dont deny anyone the right to protest.
Just as 2 Live Crew has the right to release terrible music.

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Chus wrote:
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So, you are saying I am racist because you have determined that I allow those who you deam to be racists to post and I delete your "THANKS OBAMA" Pics.


You don't understand. Let's move on.

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Plus, you have obviousely now gone back into years of posting trying to find anything in the Zimmerman threads that you can construe as racist.


So, something said two years ago is off limits? What is the statute of limitations?

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You have now made numerous posts in this thread about me being a racist and a member of of the KKK, with Steve.


I said that you prune the thoughts of others, but you always defend his right to speak his mind. Combine this with eerily similar thoughts on subjects such as these, and it's easy to draw parallels. I'm just repeating myself at this point.


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All based on my posts that I think 30 kids protesting in Scottsdale, who tried to loot a store, but couldnt break the glass are ineffective in conveying any decent message.


It wasn't based on that, at all, but keep on keeping on.

The white knights aren't stepping in on your behalf, and they are reading this.


No limitations, but shows you have been working awfully hard going back years to find things you think are racist.

My secret agenda of pruning some peoples thoughts and leaving Steves statements is now exposed! Which then implicates me into the CHUS's plot to expose my racism based on what I delete and what I dont. Or maybe I just know that when I see Steve post and troll you and a few others the same people will say the same things and I just dont read most of it, unless you or someone else complains.

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No limitations, but shows you have been working awfully hard going back years to find things you think are racist.


It's called using facts to back up one's position, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

My George Zimmerman reference is dated, but you cite 2 Live Crew? :lol:



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My secret agenda of pruning some peoples thoughts and leaving Steves statements is now exposed! Which then implicates me into the CHUS's plot to expose my racism based on what I delete and what I dont.


That's just silly. You are completely losing control, now.


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Or maybe I just know that when I see Steve post and troll you and a few others the same people will say the same things and I just dont read most of it,


You are unaware of what Steve posts? You are posting in the very threads that he is. He is as big a lightning rod as this site has, but you are unaware of it? :lol:


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unless you or someone else complains.


This isn't the first time that you made a veiled comment about me complaining to you about another poster. This has never happened, and you know it. I handle shit myself, under my own screen name, no mults. That is, until you tell me to stop, usually via PM.

Of course, the irony is that you defend Steve's right to say what he wants, but when people cry to you about me, you tell me to knock it off, and delete my posts.

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I wasnt even touching on the issue of you complaining about people here, your constant issue about things being THINLY VEILED are wrong.

All I am addressing is you calling me a racist and a KKK member and trying to weasel your way out of it via 10 posts and a constant attempt to change the issue.

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You also mentioned protesters in Utah and added a sideswipe on Occupy, so it's not as if you're totally limiting yourself to disliking violent/unlawful protests (which I think all of us would also dislike!).

Yes
Feel free to include the 30 kids in Utah as well.

Did the 1% and 99% become 2% and 98% or did anything change from the OCCUPY movement.

I dont deny anyone the right to protest.
Just as 2 Live Crew has the right to release terrible music.


So then this is just about how no one should bother speaking up if they can't do anything about it?

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So no one should ever protest anything because it ultimately won't make a difference? Wow...

Edit: didn't see CH's post but point remains.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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You also mentioned protesters in Utah and added a sideswipe on Occupy, so it's not as if you're totally limiting yourself to disliking violent/unlawful protests (which I think all of us would also dislike!).

Yes
Feel free to include the 30 kids in Utah as well.

Did the 1% and 99% become 2% and 98% or did anything change from the OCCUPY movement.

I dont deny anyone the right to protest.
Just as 2 Live Crew has the right to release terrible music.


So then this is just about how no one should bother speaking up if they can't do anything about it?


If thats how you choose to see it, but when you speak up and then you are called upon, I would suggest having a plan, objective, spokesperson etc is a good idea.

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So no one should ever protest anything because it ultimately won't make a difference? Wow...

Edit: didn't see CH's post but point remains.


That must be one of those posts I made?

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I wasnt even touching on the issue of you complaining about people here,


You said it in your previous post. I stand by my claim, that I have never done it. If you can prove otherwise, feel free. It would probably go a long way in discrediting me, but we both know that won't happen.

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your constant issue about things being THINLY VEILED are wrong.


That's how it comes across. I can't believe that I am the only one that reads it that way. In fact, I know that I am not, but I don't name names.

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All I am addressing is you calling me a racist and a KKK member


When the Reardon stuff went down, you told me that you didn't want certain things associated with this site. When unapologetic racism doesn't fit that criteria, and you share many thoughts with Archie Bunker in Elmhurst, it's not difficult to see how I could make that connection.

You still haven't addressed your wild inconsistencies in these two situations (Me vs. Reardon, and common sense vs. Steve).

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and trying to weasel your way out of it via 10 posts


I haven't tried to weasel out of anything. I have been perfectly clear. I have not strayed from my original position. It's you, who is changing the topic.


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and a constant attempt to change the issue.


I haven't attempted to change anything. You are the one talking about the 2 Live Crew.

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So no one should ever protest anything because it ultimately won't make a difference? Wow...

Edit: didn't see CH's post but point remains.


That must be one of those posts I made?


See, this is what YOU do. You say things that imply other things, and then when people make the natural connection, you deny it because.you didn't say those exact words.

You JUST SAID "did the occupy movement make any difference" (basically). The natural conclusion to draw from that statement is that you don't think it's worthwhile to protest things or speak up unless they create wide scale change.

If you don't want people to draw inferences from what you say or write, then you will have to stop speaking and writing. This is not a court of law, and that's what people do. I can assure you that you do it too.

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So when I banned Jimmy Reardon 2 years for blatant racist comments...that didnt count?

And I guess the other CHUS PM's about Jimmy Reardon and CHAS didnt count as you complaining about someone? you asked about it 3 times so I answered, although I had no interest in making the claims, but you continued to ask.

I will stand by my view, that I think the 30 kids who assembled on a Saturday night in Scottsdale, in Old Town should go home and play X Box for the night. This is like 30 kids who go to Latin High School "protesting" on Clark St with an attempt to stop and break into the Windward sports for some sweet boards in the window, but they are making a statement!

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:03 pm 
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So no one should ever protest anything because it ultimately won't make a difference? Wow...

Edit: didn't see CH's post but point remains.


That must be one of those posts I made?


See, this is what YOU do. You say things that imply other things, and then when people make the natural connection, you deny it because.you didn't say those exact words.

You JUST SAID "did the occupy movement make any difference" (basically). The natural conclusion to draw from that statement is that you don't think it's worthwhile to protest things or speak up unless they create wide scale change.

If you don't want people to draw inferences from what you say or write, then you will have to stop speaking and writing. This is not a court of law, and that's what people do. I can assure you that you do it too.


Did the Occupy movement change something?

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:04 pm 
I guess he's asking why Reardon's racist comments warranted banning, but Steve and his thoughts that make Reardon look like Nelson Mandella are ok.


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You guys should get a banner then march down Clark st protesting me. I am sure you can find many supporters here, I mean the other usuals havent even checked in yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Ferguson Protestors
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:05 pm 
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I guess he's asking why Reardon's racist comments warranted banning, but Steve and his thoughts that make Reardon look like Nelson Mandella are ok.


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