Which is sad. We should want the best and brightest teaching our kids.

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you need strong families. to have strong families you have to have jobs. I don't know how to make good US jobs in the face of international competition and labor saving technologies.

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Speaking in purely economic terms we really don't want that.

Our best and brightest need to be creating companies and products and running businesses. We were better off with Bill Gates working at a tech company rather than him teaching high school social studies.

We need good teachers, and I think we do have them. Teachers can still make pretty good money.

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You'll get no argument from me on that . There's a perception that anyone can teach effectively and you always see the vitriol whenever teachers contracts are up for raises and the average salary is only half of what that 150k figure is. Again, if the results were proven to be there people would still lose their shit at the thought of paying a "blue collar worker" such as a teacher a white collar professional salary.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I won't go that far, but it is already a profession to choose with many advantages, and many smart people decide to go into it already.

I don't think the teachers are the problem with our educational system.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I agree. And whether or not you think they're more important than a guy who can hit a 95 mph fastball or a guy who can sell the shit out of some Veblen goods, supply and demand dictate that they won't be paid as much.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

My cynical view is that even if you magically found a pain free way to triple funds it will not help. The money will find the same crooked cracks and bureaucratic morasses that the present funds disappear to.

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Elections have consequences.

How did the best and brightest become the best and brightest?


And our best need to be working on eradicating cancer

sorry, they're busy working on a pot-detecting breathalyzer

Teachers played a big role, but it isn't like the smartest people are necessarily the best teachers.
I'll see what I can do.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I was a HS teacher as my first career out of college. it's very similar to other civil professions in that it's a marathon, not a sprint. new teachers out of college do not make a tone of money....however give it time and you'll find a 20 yr veteran teacher with a Master's degree retires with a very nice life. I made it 3.5 years as a teacher. I liked it and I was very good at it, but left for greener pastures.

I agree with all of RR points, but I'll add one:
- Term limits on all elected positions. Lifetime / career politicians are a bad thing..period. If someone wants to serve their government and make a difference...fine, but we have seen way more often than not that making a paid career out of it results in self-service more than public service.

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I was the opposite. I started out in a different profession but could see the writing on the wall that my position was going to change a lot or possibly be eliminated. So I was able to transition into being a teacher. 2nd year in and I really enjoy it. They money is not great, but the retirement is pretty good and the benefits are decent.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

This happens more often than my path. it's a great profession, but not for me.

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If you started out making $100k+ you would love it.

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I taught for a couple years. quit because the DC school administration was beyond fucked up. It wasn't really the kids or the job. In an alternate universe I could still be doing it. I really enjoy kids more than most teachers. LOL. the little ones. the bigger ones are a pain (well not all of them).

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I believe Sandusky felt the same way Hatch.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Not funny.

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You really going to be like that?

That's a personal attack. Expect to hear from the FBI.

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Soccer 1,2,3
Spanish Honor Society 1,2,3,4
Forensics 1,2,3,4

"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

Took me a second.

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Quickest way to improve long term education would be spend more money improving PreK and Kindergarten programs.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Wait a minute.

Why does Brouge have Q's old avatar?

I believe that he's taking a shot at Chus in his absence by using his old avatar.

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That's a bannable offense. At least it was for me. Hopefully BigFan is consistent as usual.

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Maybe you need some time off, huh?

I just thought BadRogue was a man of integrity that respected Bigfan's wishes. I never knew he wanted to destroy what this board is all about. He's just another bad person hiding behind a computer apparently. This is a very sad day for CSFMB.

I will not abide by this.

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Couple things Mr Einstein. It's not the same avatar and he's no longer a member here.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Wrong

http://score670.com/phpBB/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475

It's really sad that Bigfan has to deal with people like you that don't follow the rules.

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