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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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I predict 7/$168MM SFG

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I predict 7/$168MM SFG


For 7 guaranteed at $24M per? I'd probably pass on that.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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So no one wants Lester now?

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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It's only a hunch based on the truism of FA negotiations... usually the team willing to commit to the breaking point (in this case; 7th year) is unknown or very late in the game to the table. Giants have money to spend, and no reliable starters after MadBum

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Although, I thought I heard something about Levine reporting the Doyer would go to $180M

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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It's only a hunch based on the truism of FA negotiations... usually the team willing to commit to the breaking point (in this case; 7th year) is unknown or very late in the game to the table. Giants have money to spend, and no reliable starters after MadBum


Yup, seems like the Giants have gained a lot of steam lately. They have turned in to my prediction just based on my parsing of tweets.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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So no one wants Lester now?

Not if it handcuffs a team on future moves with a more likely positive contribution for the money.

I want Lester, for a fair market price. I also want Scherzer for a fair market price, and wanted Russell Martin for a fair market price. Next year I want Johnny Cueto for a fair market price.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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I still really really want the Cubs to sign him. Not backing off that. Just don't think he's coming here any more.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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So no one wants Lester now?

Yes, but at a logical price.

I like Jerry's rule for pitchers. 7 years for an over-30 pitcher is losing your damn fool mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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So no one wants Lester now?

Not if it handcuffs a team on future moves with a more likely positive contribution for the money.

I want Lester, for a fair market price. I also want Scherzer for a fair market price, and wanted Russell Martin for a fair market price. Next year I want Johnny Cueto for a fair market price.
Pretty obvious that he is going to get a fair market price.

I mean, I want the Sox to get Lester for $3 million a year too.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So no one wants Lester now?

Yes, but at a logical price.

I like Jerry's rule for pitchers. 7 years for an over-30 pitcher is losing your damn fool mind.
So why want him? I'm pretty ignorant of baseball but even I could tell this guy was going to get a big deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So no one wants Lester now?


I felt that way for a while.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So no one wants Lester now?

Not if it handcuffs a team on future moves with a more likely positive contribution for the money.

I want Lester, for a fair market price. I also want Scherzer for a fair market price, and wanted Russell Martin for a fair market price. Next year I want Johnny Cueto for a fair market price.
Pretty obvious that he is going to get a fair market price.

I mean, I want the Sox to get Lester for $3 million a year too.

6/150 and 7/168 are overpaying imo. Even in this market.

6/140 is fair. If he wants more years or more per, thanks but no thanks. His track record isnt good enough for me to feel comfortable.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Cubs should sign him at any cost. Front load the deal so it's somewhat tradeable after 5 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago
Sources: Barring late change, Lester choosing between #Cubs, #SFGiants.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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I don't like the Cubs odds in this one. I think I read that he really hit it off with Bochy.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Good. Let him play for the champs.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 2m2 minutes ago
The hope within SF organization that they have legit shot to sign Lester has grown over last 24 hours. A week ago,they felt like a longshot.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Al Yellon retweeted
Ken RosenthaI ‏@KenRosenthaI 16m16 minutes ago

SOURCE: #Cubs and Lester have agreement on six-year deal, $144mil. #RedSox fall short, #SFGiants "were never in it"


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Al Yellon retweeted
Ken RosenthaI ‏@KenRosenthaI 16m16 minutes ago

SOURCE: #Cubs and Lester have agreement on six-year deal, $144mil. #RedSox fall short, #SFGiants "were never in it"


That's a fake account. I fell for that too.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Al Yellon retweeted
Ken RosenthaI ‏@KenRosenthaI 16m16 minutes ago

SOURCE: #Cubs and Lester have agreement on six-year deal, $144mil. #RedSox fall short, #SFGiants "were never in it"


That's a fake account. I fell for that too.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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I love that Yellon retweeted that. What a dbag.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Peoria Matt wrote:
I love that Yellon retweeted that. What a dbag.


Exactly. I've been working, hop on Twitter and see it's a retweet and WTF, it's BS?

Asswipe motherfucker.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Having said that, I think it's BOS or SF unless Cubs bend over and fork over big cash.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Having said that, I think it's BOS or SF unless Cubs bend over and fork over big cash.


I heard Heyman or one of the national reporters say that it actually wasn't about money. More along the lines of where he would more comfortable or something along those lines.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Having said that, I think it's BOS or SF unless Cubs bend over and fork over big cash.


I heard Heyman or one of the national reporters say that it actually wasn't about money. More along the lines of where he would more comfortable or something along those lines.


Exactly which is why I think the Cubs have to overcome that with $$$$ or he goes elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Al Yellon retweeted
Ken RosenthaI ‏@KenRosenthaI 16m16 minutes ago

SOURCE: #Cubs and Lester have agreement on six-year deal, $144mil. #RedSox fall short, #SFGiants "were never in it"


That's a fake account. I fell for that too.

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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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I just had a front office person tell me, "Don't count out the #yankees with Jon Lester.'' Scout hearing the same thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Jon Lester
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Good on Drinky getting that one first.


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Good on Drinky getting that one first.


Doubt he really has a source. Probably just a good guess.


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