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@Dan Bernstein, go sit your old white racist @ss down and shut the hell up!!!!!
Better yet, die!

People who think like Dan does will all be dead soon.

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So, instead of "Hey, Dan. The editor of Ebony magazine called you a racist due to your comments about Derrick Rose. How about that?" we get backpedaling, criticism of Jordan, and praise for LeBron.


It wasn't so bad, Spiegel actually said his point about the shirt being all that was required. Dan didn't so much double-down by saying Derrick was outright dumb as he was easily manipulated, which at least isn't as inflammatory if still pretty insulting given how simple this 'message' is. Now, Berns saying that Derrick may not be 'real' on this issue was pretty bad and went unchallenged.

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And Rose talked today and didn't step in it himself, so I guess all is well now.


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Dan Gilbert bought him the shirt.

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:lol: :lol: He does in that picture.

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I listened to the first 45 min or so. And I texted in challenging Dan - no response as usual.

Dan (every day): Athletes are morons. They are uninformed and shouldn't speak

Dan (today): I like activist athletes - WHEN THEY AGREE WITH ME.

Dan: (everyday for about 6 weeks in 2012): Tim Tebow = bad. Jesus stuff=bad. Keep it to yourself.


Once again, Dan proves his hypocrisy. A bunch of athletes who can't string a sentence together suddenly take 'social' stands on
cases in which they can't articulate on fact.

Would Dan support RG3 if he had an 'Abortion = Murder' t shirt?

Would Dan support an athlete that had a shirt that said '#Support Darren Wilson'?

I don't recall Dan expressing support for that dude on the Dolphins who tweeted something about Michael Sam's staged kiss thing.

Those would be cases of athletes expressing 'activism'.

Dan cool with these?

There is no doubt that Danny only like athletes taking a stand on social/political issues when they agree with his world view. Otherwise he just wants them to STFU and play.

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So, instead of "Hey, Dan. The editor of Ebony magazine called you a racist due to your comments about Derrick Rose. How about that?" we get backpedaling, criticism of Jordan, and praise for LeBron.


It wasn't so bad, Spiegel actually said his point about the shirt being all that was required. Dan didn't so much double-down by saying Derrick was outright dumb as he was easily manipulated, which at least isn't as inflammatory if still pretty insulting given how simple this 'message' is. Now, Berns saying that Derrick may not be 'real' on this issue was pretty bad and went unchallenged.

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And Rose talked today and didn't step in it himself, so I guess all is well now.


And bernstein suddenly began re-tweeting pro-Rose stuff.

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Dan was on a retweet rampage today, if only just to send his dumb tweet all the way down the page.

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Dan was on a retweet rampage today, if only just to send his dumb tweet all the way down the page.


Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein · 17h 17 hours ago
From @Gawker, a full list of unarmed people of color killed by police since 1999: http://gawker.com/unarmed-people-of-col ... 1666672349 …. Wow.

"I know they were unarmed, but did they really understand the officer's commands? I don't think they did but they deserved to be treated as if so."

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So, instead of "Hey, Dan. The editor of Ebony magazine called you a racist due to your comments about Derrick Rose. How about that?" we get backpedaling, criticism of Jordan, and praise for LeBron.


It wasn't so bad, Spiegel actually said his point about the shirt being all that was required. Dan didn't so much double-down by saying Derrick was outright dumb as he was easily manipulated, which at least isn't as inflammatory if still pretty insulting given how simple this 'message' is. Now, Berns saying that Derrick may not be 'real' on this issue was pretty bad and went unchallenged.

/TransitionReport

And Rose talked today and didn't step in it himself, so I guess all is well now.


And bernstein suddenly began re-tweeting pro-Rose stuff.


Like this one...that directly conflicts with what Danny tweeted about Rose. Wasn't he saying that Rose needs to say the right things (but that's he's too stupid to do so) and that simply wearing the shirt wasn't enough?
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We all know D-Rose can be inelegant as a speaker. But this wasn't about finding the right words as sending a strong message. Impactful.

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heh heh heh, Bernstein the subject of a column titled 'liberal racism'

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-wp-bl ... story.html


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This is great stuff....

"Put simply, Derrick Rose doesn't owe us an explanation. Questioning Rose's intelligence while seemingly supporting the protests speaks to the condescension and paternalism that black activists have experienced from white allies for generations. Liberal racism is on a different level than more overt forms of racism, but its subtlety makes it just as dangerous in allowing people to deny that it exists. As Salon's Brittney Cooper explains, "People of color are supposed to be thankful for good white liberals," even when they're "whitesplaining" from their lofty perch of privilege.

Rose doesn't need to explain his T-shirt to Bernstein, because it wasn't meant for him. The message was for the millions of black kids from the South Side and beyond who need to hear that their lives matter from a member of their community who also happens to be famous and popular. It was for those in Ferguson and New York and all across the country who have turned to protesting, sometimes violently, out of the sheer hopelessness — a feeling that stems in part from decades of people such as Bernstein dismissing their voices. Rose isn't exactly the first black man to have his politics questioned and devalued."

Maybe Rose's family should have just moved away from poverty when he was young.

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Like this one...that directly conflicts with what Danny tweeted about Rose. Wasn't he saying that Rose needs to say the right things (but that's he's too stupid to do so) and that simply wearing the shirt wasn't enough?
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We all know D-Rose can be inelegant as a speaker. But this wasn't about finding the right words as sending a strong message. Impactful.


He is so good at wind socking trolling and he never gets caught and embarrassed.

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Maybe Rose's family should have just moved away from poverty when he was young.


That sounds like my parents after Hurricane Katrina. "Why didn't they just leave?"

I'm sure they were just too lazy, to pack up the Range Rover, and head to their summer home.


P.S. I know you were tongue in cheek.

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Rozner and Bernsie need to talk...


updated: 12/8/2014 8:36 PM
Rozner: Can Derrick Rose do anything right in fans' eyes?


Just when you think the Derrick Rose saga can't get any more bizarre, it takes a true turn for the surreal.

The hatred for Rose locally had already gone beyond anything rational, and that was before he made a statement Saturday night with a T-shirt that read, "I can't breathe."

Rose was standing up for social change, using his platform to recognize the death of a black man, Eric Garner, and the decision of a Staten Island grand jury that no charges would be filed against a white New York City police officer.

Since Saturday night, Rose has been described -- among other ways -- as uneducated, too ignorant to understand the significance, too wealthy to truly care and merely trying to rehabilitate his image while capitalizing on a tragedy.

Social media and email is filled with anger and skepticism, and the critics, after all, know precisely what's in Rose's heart, right?

Rose cares nothing about the current discussion taking place in most American homes, write some of his most virulent assailants, which seems unlikely considering his upbringing in Englewood, a neighborhood that boasts one of the worst combinations of crime and poverty in the United States.

Even if true, even if he doesn't care, even if he was encouraged by others to make a statement, so what? The result is people are talking about it, which is only a positive.

But to think Rose doesn't know or doesn't care is the continued fostering of a narrative that on the surface -- at least -- appears racist. He is called dumb. He is called uneducated. He is called vapid.

And a young black man from a poor, black neighborhood can't understand the plight of a black man in a white world? Where do you even begin to find the logic in that?

On Monday, Rose said that he had the shirt made because, "I wanted to support something that happened."

Admitting that he might not have done something like this before he became a dad, Rose said, "I'm not saying all cops are bad or anything. I'm just saying what happened … is uncalled for, and I don't want my son growing up being scared of the police, or even having that thought on his mind that something like that could happen."

Sounds like a thoughtful and reasoned perspective, something that quickly garnered the support of his teammates.

"He has every right to express his beliefs," said Joakim Noah. "I respect Derrick 150 percent. He's definitely making a statement. And that's my guy."

Does that make Noah stupid and uneducated? You're not likely to read that anywhere.

"I think a lot of people feel that way," Noah said of Rose's statement. "It's really sad what happened. Police brutality is something that happens. Not every cop is a bad person. Not every black person is a bad person. You can't judge people.

"But Derrick definitely made a statement by wearing that T-shirt."

Maybe Noah is just too insipid to truly understand, though Taj Gibson agreed with Rose and Noah.

"I thought it was a great message," said Gibson, who's originally from Brooklyn. "It was him speaking his mind, speaking out. It's a good thing for a positive movement."

People act as though Rose burned down a building, when what he did in reality was use a form of protest that was cheered by LeBron James and would probably meet the approval of activists like Jim Brown, Bill Russell, Arthur Ashe and Jackie Robinson.

Look, Rose is no Muhammad Ali, but he's also not Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan, who were coached to protect the brand above the cause, which is also their right.

The criticism of Woods and Jordan has always been unfair. There's no rule that suggests an athlete must have a social conscience. This is America. Those men have the freedom to say nothing, just as Rose has the freedom to wonder aloud about the state of race relations.

Don't like the mix of sports and social change? Wake up. It's 2014, not 1964. Change the channel and wait for the news to cycle.

But there's more to this Rose story than meets the eye. We have reached a point in his hometown among his own fans where he can do no right, on the court or off.

If he doesn't say anything, he's an ignorant fool. If he speaks a simple message with a shirt, he's opportunistic.

Derrick Rose can't win. Not in Chicago, anyway.

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Next time Rosner hosts with Bernstein, they will be grab assing as usual.


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Maybe Rose's family should have just moved away from poverty when he was young.


That sounds like my parents after Hurricane Katrina. "Why didn't they just leave?"

I'm sure they were just too lazy, to pack up the Range Rover, and head to their summer home.


P.S. I know you were tongue in cheek.


Yes tongue in cheek for sure and just echoing the stupid statement often made by Bernstein. MOVE!

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Maybe Rose's family should have just moved away from poverty when he was young.


That sounds like my parents after Hurricane Katrina. "Why didn't they just leave?"

I'm sure they were just too lazy, to pack up the Range Rover, and head to their summer home.


P.S. I know you were tongue in cheek.


Yes tongue in cheek for sure and just echoing the stupid statement often made by Bernstein. MOVE!
I wonder if someone called in and suggested that the j-ews in WW2 should've done the same thing how'd it go over with him.

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to me, Dan backed down quite a bit, which was a first in a long time. A long long time.

And for those who care, I now posses an HD radio in my car. And yes, you could tell yesterday that Terry was on an ISDN line. Never had HD radio before so I never noticed. Not that I ultimately care. Terry can stay home every day as long as he's just on the air. But rather interesting hearing it for myself for the first time.

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That's interesting. Dan backing down.

He was getting very comfortable being a racist. It's gotten less and less subtle over the years. Of course, nobody at the Score says anything to him. Not even the black guys. But the internet was getting on him over the t-shirt comments. And it kind of hit him. "Shit, I gotta tone my racism down or else I might get fired."


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That's interesting. Dan backing down.

He was getting very comfortable being a racist. It's gotten less and less subtle over the years. Of course, nobody at the Score says anything to him. Not even the black guys. But the internet was getting on him over the t-shirt comments. And it kind of hit him. "Shit, I gotta tone my racism down or else I might get fired."

You're burying the lead my fine tin foiled friend. Patrick McNeil is posting here now?

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hmm, should I check out more of the podcast from Tuesday...NOPE

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what could he have possibly 'vented' about what Rose said? Not much of a hate-listener.


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Jamilah Lemieux has Bernstein on the run!


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