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The guy was arguably the best performer that yr. What I'm not understanding is how this devolved into Anthony. Josh Smith I believe is better than Taj. He hasn't been the previous yr. A lot had to do with the franchise he was on. Yesterday the people on here were ready to pronounce his career over. Let's see how much of a loser he is once he is on a better team. The fact that the better teams around the league want him means something. Predictably you will say it's means nothing because they don't have to pay him. If he is such a loser why would they want him? Why would they want such a loser around them? Probably because they don't really think he is a loser obviously.


You took it there. I would gladly talk about Josh Smith day.

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Heat are making a strong push for J Smoove, and can offer the most money because of the injury-exception from the McRoberts injury.

Other finalists in the Smith sweepstakes appear to be Houston and Dallas.

Philly is the only team with enough cap space to claim Smith off waivers, and that will not happen.

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Heat are making a strong push for J Smoove, and can offer the most money because of the injury-exception from the McRoberts injury.

Other finalists in the Smith sweepstakes appear to be Houston and Dallas.

Philly is the only team with enough cap space to claim Smith off waivers, and that will not happen.


He'll probably play in Miami then. They need as many healthy players as possible.

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Philly is the only team with enough cap space to claim Smith off waivers, and that will not happen.


:lol: it would be awesome though


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Philly is the only team with enough cap space to claim Smith off waivers, and that will not happen.


:lol: it would be awesome though


He would average 30 and have more 3's than Curry.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived
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He talks to Rondo everyday and at some point winning a championship should matter most. It shouldn't be about starting when you've been in the league 10 years.


we are talking about Josh Smith
and this is coming from someone who is/was a fan of Josh Smith


I know. It's a reason why I never wanted him to be a Bull despite his talent. I don't think you can win a title with a guy like that on your team. He's a great player from the neck down.


I love when fans do the you can't win with these types of guys on your team. Dennis Rodman has 5 rings. Ron Artest has won a ring. Stephen Jackson has a ring. Josh Smith is a about to sign with one of the better teams in the NBA. He is probably going to be a starter which means they view him as a key component to winning a championship.

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Please do not mention Josh Smith in the same sentence with Rodman.

The Rockets are not winning a championship with or without Smith.

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Why shouldn't Rodman be mentioned? Also only one team is going to win the Championship. It doesn't make Smith any more of a loser than it does Kevin Durant or Chris Paul. Neither has won a championship either and they probably won't win this yr. How many people are, running around referring to them as losers. Another thing that is a talk show talking point that I'm sick of hearing is the notion that guy that hasn't won anything is somehow a loser. Using that idiotic logic refers to 90% of the league probably more. What never gets addressed is does this guy do the things as a player that helps a team win. We are going to find out if Smith does this. He did it in Atlanta. Houston obviously believes he can do it or they wouldn't not have signed him. The fact that a contending team signed him kills the argument promoted by people on here that he is a guy you can't win with. This isn't about Houston winning or not winning this is about them believing that he gives them a chance to win.

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Rodman is an all time great player.

Smith is a little above average player.

They are no where near the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived
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Skill wise Josh Smith does more things on the floor. I'm not talking about that I'm talking about temperament and character. Rodman was a low character guy that managed to win 5 championships. Artest is also low character and he has a ring. When I hear things like you can't win with this guy or that guy I'm taken aback. Houston believes they can win with Josh Smith that's why they signed him.

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Rodman is an all time great player.

Smith is a little above average player.

They are no where near the same.

Josh Smith has done something statistically that only 8 other guys have done and they are all hall of famers. I'm not saying that he is one but I'm saying that it must mean he can play. I'm not even a big time Josh Smith fan. My basic premise was that he is better than Taj. I will stand by that and history has bared that out. Taj has never been a starter in the NBA. He backed up a guy that was considered by people on this board to be by far the worst player of all the Bulls starters. People here are talking about Taj being a better player than Josh Smith when he wasn't better than Carlos Boozer. If he was so good why the hell was he backing up Carlos Boozer the guy considered to be one of the worst players on the team?

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Do you realize you actually posted that Taj has been better for the past year or so? That's what we've said. No one here has called him a bum or said Taj has had a better career. You actually agree with us but you're so stuck on arguing that you don't even realize it. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived
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Actually there are a lot of people that have implied that he is a bum. I think Taj has played better the past yr but I don't think he is the better player. I think it has had more to do with Smith playing in Detroit. He is with a better team and in a better situation. This started because I thought he was better than Taj. I still believe it and going forward we will see. I said that Taj has played better the past yr but I don't think he is better. They are the same age so it is not like one is on the downside and the other is not. I'm not bent on arguing actually I'd moved on from this comment awhile ago. You actually brought up Taj after Josh Smith was waived and I decided to respond so it appears that you are the one hell bent on arguing. Have a merry Christmas.

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Taj Gibson is better than Josh Smith.

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Taj Gibson is better than Josh Smith.

In current form, absolutely.

Josh Smith at his best for those 5 mins was better than Taj.

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Taj Gibson is better than Josh Smith.

In current form, absolutely.

Josh Smith at his best for those 5 mins was better than Taj.



Josh Smith has had a better career and their the same age. Over the past yr. Taj has been better. It would not have been a debate before last yr. There is a lot of Taj love among Bulls fans but must we not forget that he has spent his entire career as a backup. Most of his career he backed up a guy that most Bulls fans believed was garbage. How good could he really be?

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Taj Gibson is better than Josh Smith.

In current form, absolutely.

Josh Smith at his best for those 5 mins was better than Taj.



Josh Smith has had a better career and their the same age. Over the past yr. Taj has been better. It would not have been a debate before last yr. There is a lot of Taj love among Bulls fans but must we not forget that he has spent his entire career as a backup. Most of his career he backed up a guy that most Bulls fans believed was garbage. How good could he really be?

The starter vs back-up argument you keep trotting out is perhaps your weakest point. Thibs had his reasons for starting Boozer, but more importantly he had his reasons for closing games with Taj. Nobody who is on the Bulls or covering the team would make an argument that they valued Boozer more than Gibson. A new contract for Taj and an amnestied one for Boozer makes that quite clear.

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If the Bulls really valued Taj as a starter they don't sign Gasol. They amnestied Boozer not only to get rid of him they needed cap space in order to sign Gasol. The reason Thibs continued to start Boozer is probably because at the least the difference in ability was negligible. They also close games with Heinrich. Gibson is better defensively than Boozer and Thibs will always err on the side of defense. The fact remains that he had never been a starter but the people here seem to find it laughable that a guy who was arguably an all star at some point of his career would be better than a guy that backed up what people here seem to think was one of the worst starting PFs in the league.

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Taj Gibson would start for a few teams in the league. He would not start for most as people here assumed. There were people that said he should start over Gasol before the season. Now they are back pedaling as though it was a given that Gasol would be the starter.

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Do you read your posts? You're fighting battles every time you post. Do you have the ability to have a normal discussion?

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Smith Waived
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Do you read your posts? You're fighting battles every time you post. Do you have the ability to have a normal discussion?

It's called a sports debate. Maybe if you stop attempting to be the self appointed regulator of such things you would realize that.

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Do you read your posts? You're fighting battles every time you post. Do you have the ability to have a normal discussion?

The reason you appear to have a problem with it is because I point out the dumb stuff that you spew.

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Unlike you I attempt to address points as they are made. It seems that you have a problem with people that don't agree with you. When challenged you make it personal. Rather than address the point it invariably becomes about the person making the point. You have done this with other people on here so I know it's not just me.

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You just described what you do. None of us agree on everything but we can still have a normal discussion. Every post you make is defensive and attacking. If you are a mult then you're doing a great job. If not you may want to reevaluate your posting style. Everyone isn't your enemy.

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You just described what you do. None of us agree on everything but we can still have a normal discussion. Every post you make is defensive and attacking. If you are a mult then you're doing a great job. If not you may want to reevaluate your posting style. Everyone isn't your enemy.
Actually everyone isn't I debate without making it about the person. Can you honestly say you do the same. You referenced the drug use of a poster as a way of debating an argument. That is out of bounds. I don't personalize this stuff but I will refer to something as idiotic. There was nothing about my response to any comment above which suggested that anyone was the enemy. You have characterized me as insane and now I'm a mult. I have posted here for almost 8 yrs and I have tended to post more often now. Unlike you I can disagree without being disagreeable. You haven't addressed anything that I have posted you have tended to make it about me.

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You just described what you do. None of us agree on everything but we can still have a normal discussion. Every post you make is defensive and attacking. If you are a mult then you're doing a great job. If not you may want to reevaluate your posting style. Everyone isn't your enemy.
Actually everyone isn't I debate without making it about the person. Can you honestly say you do the same. You referenced the drug use of a poster as a way of debating an argument. That is out of bounds. I don't personalize this stuff but I will refer to something as idiotic. There was nothing about my response to any comment above which suggested that anyone was the enemy. You have characterized me as insane and now I'm a mult. I have posted here for almost 8 yrs and I have tended to post more often now. Unlike you I can disagree without being disagreeable. You haven't addressed anything that I have posted you have tended to make it about me.


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Nas wrote:
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You just described what you do. None of us agree on everything but we can still have a normal discussion. Every post you make is defensive and attacking. If you are a mult then you're doing a great job. If not you may want to reevaluate your posting style. Everyone isn't your enemy.
Actually everyone isn't I debate without making it about the person. Can you honestly say you do the same. You referenced the drug use of a poster as a way of debating an argument. That is out of bounds. I don't personalize this stuff but I will refer to something as idiotic. There was nothing about my response to any comment above which suggested that anyone was the enemy. You have characterized me as insane and now I'm a mult. I have posted here for almost 8 yrs and I have tended to post more often now. Unlike you I can disagree without being disagreeable. You haven't addressed anything that I have posted you have tended to make it about me.


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There you go again. You're attempting to be regulator of the conversation again. The reason I don't get into game threads is because there is too much knee jerk analysis. That is how you get into Pau missing point blank layups thus he must be a bum talk. I like to sir watch the game and form an opinion later. Don't knock those that do it I just don't watch sports that way

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