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MajorKong

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:37 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

MajorKong wrote:

Bernsie doing a 180 on running backs being important because he read something in the Wall Street Journal.

The article was pretty poor. Here's the money quote Bernstein focused on due to it's lovely use of jargon:

Quote:

"This is a classic phenomenon in sports: an undervalued commodity becoming valuable again because of a shift in how the game is played. "

Passing has always been and will continue to be recipe for successful offenses and stopping the pass for defenses.
The running game never stopped being valuable. Running games are vital for successful play-action passing and salting away games. I bet the Lions wish they felt more comfortable in their run game to get 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.

Doofuses like Bernstein who gobble and run with the hot new take fell for this stupidity.

His disdain for the hipster really comes across as self loathing.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:39 pm

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2 of the 4 teams that won this weekend won with garbage heap level (or replacement level in cool kids parlance) running backs

I don't know where you would receive and epiphany on the value of running backs from this weekend.

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Sir Loin Of Beef

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:40 pm

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redskingreg wrote:

There's your narrative. Stuart Scott stole the "cooler than the other side of the pillow" bit.

Yep and it is very sad that they are skirting at least saying something positive.

All I hear is "I-I-I-I, never listened to him, uh-uh-uh, didn't know him...."

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:41 pm

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spmack wrote:

Bernstein says Marshall will be gone.

I feel completely out of step with the bear world in thinking this is a huge mistake

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:41 pm

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as it relates to the draft I think RB's will go higher than they have in the past 2 years in 2015... players that provide as much production as lacy, hill, gio bernard, leveon bell have the last 2 years probably deserve to be 1st round picks... i bet someone "reaches" for a RB this year in the late first.

if dan truely apprecaited RB's again perhaps a start would be complimenting matt forte for providing incredible and reliable production for the last however many years

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:42 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

i'd be ok with pinning the steeler's troubles against the ravens due to the fact leveon bell wasnt active

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Brick

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:45 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

spmack wrote:

Bernstein says Marshall will be gone.

I feel completely out of step with the bear world in thinking this is a huge mistake

He doesn't really help teams he is on, is a big distraction, is going to be injury prone his whole career, and he is already past his expiration date for being an even bigger issue for the team on or off the field.

I'd take my chances with another WR in the draft, especially if some desperate team will give you a 5th round pick for him.

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Sir Loin Of Beef

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:46 pm

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Okay, I listened for five minutes and heard them fumbling through trying to say something about Stu Scott.
They Failed.
I turned them off, back to jams!

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Brick

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:48 pm

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Stuart Scott seems to be the first time I've started to notice the generation gap between 30 somethings and 40 somethings.

I loved Stuart Scott, though he got annoying just like all ESPN did the past decade or so. Still, he was great and important.

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Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:48 pm

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Dan: "I don't think there's any way Hub writes that if he doesn't know something"

Hub on an earlier show: "I don't know anything, just putting two and two together"

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Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:50 pm

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Curious Hair wrote:

Is that why he told Mannelly "agree with me and you'll look smart"?

And moments later, a discussion on why the Bears need to dump Marshall...from the former president of the Brandon Marshall ALS.

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spmack

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:51 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Exactly! I loved him as a kid!

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MajorKong

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:03 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

I'm the former and I didn't like the guy's work. After him everyone had to have some stupid shtick- which brought the pestilence of Neil Everett upon us all...

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ontherealnnow

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:06 pm

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How dumb will it look if the Bears hire Ballard. They need an advisor to hire a guy who was an employee for over 10 yrs.

ERNIE !

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redskingreg

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:21 pm

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Dan needs the WSJ to tell him that a good running game and controlling the clock increases a team's chance of winning? This is highly disappointing for supposedly Very Smart Radio.

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:30 pm

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Matt Bowen

Get the right guy! What the fuck is that? Offensive side or Defensive side. The Bears and everyone thought Emery and Trestman were the right guys! Bensie great stuff.... blow me.

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:31 pm

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Walt Williams Neck wrote:

Matt Bowen

Get the right guy! What the fuck is that? Offensive side or Defensive side. The Bears and everyone thought Emery and Trestman were the right guys! Bensie great stuff.... blow me.

He also always tells the host that they are exactly right after a question. He brings nothing.

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Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:37 pm

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pittmike wrote:

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

Matt Bowen

Get the right guy! What the fuck is that? Offensive side or Defensive side. The Bears and everyone thought Emery and Trestman were the right guys! Bensie great stuff.... blow me.

He also always tells the host that they are exactly right after a question. He brings nothing.

If he was something you think he would have a better job than talking to these to meat heads.

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Scorehead

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:42 pm

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pittmike wrote:

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

Matt Bowen

Get the right guy! What the fuck is that? Offensive side or Defensive side. The Bears and everyone thought Emery and Trestman were the right guys! Bensie great stuff.... blow me.

He also always tells the host that they are exactly right after a question. He brings nothing.

Yup. He's brutal.

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MajorKong

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

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Scorehead wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

Matt Bowen

Get the right guy! What the fuck is that? Offensive side or Defensive side. The Bears and everyone thought Emery and Trestman were the right guys! Bensie great stuff.... blow me.

He also always tells the host that they are exactly right after a question. He brings nothing.

Yup. He's brutal.

"Naw, I agree with you."

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schmitty1121

Post subject: Re: 1/5: Holidays are over

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:50 pm

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The Stu stuff was ridiculous. They work in the sports business and don't watch Sports Center? WYC

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Curious Hair

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:53 pm

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Curious Hair wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Curious Hair wrote:

Bernstein talking about letting the zeitgeist and collective consciousness guide the Bears. The NFL: it's a Jung man's game.

You're a pisser .

I was waiting for Dan to drop a reference to archetypes while he was in the neighborhood.

Hey, there it is. Let's move on to mandalas.

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MajorKong

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:55 pm

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Curious Hair wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Curious Hair wrote:

Bernstein talking about letting the zeitgeist and collective consciousness guide the Bears. The NFL: it's a Jung man's game.

You're a pisser .

I was waiting for Dan to drop a reference to archetypes while he was in the neighborhood.

Hey, there it is. Let's move on to mandalas.

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redskingreg

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:10 pm

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Those poor doctors are tired about hearing sports metaphors :lol:

I'm starting a charity to send these doctors to camp to get away from it!

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:15 pm

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I thought I would give Wheezie and BoBo a listen since I am now Gameless.

2 things I hear:

Running backs are now important because Dan read an article from the WSJ saying so. Who knew that running the football helps you win games?

People need to stop with the Ted Phillips bashing. He's "not involved in football operations"??????

Click.

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Walt Williams Neck

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:17 pm

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What a douche you win more time on this earth with loved ones, or you lose your life. ( which my wife did 10 years ago) i wish she would have beat ( a sports term ) ovarian cancer....for someone who lost a loved one Daniel Bernsteinn :roll:

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pittmike

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:19 pm

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If I'm not mistaken terry lived leaf coming out of college. Maybe more than manning

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badrogue17

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:26 pm

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pittmike wrote:

If I'm not mistaken terry lived leaf coming out of college. Maybe more than manning

Loved McNown when the Bears picked him too. Also couldn't wash the balls of Emery, Trestman , Marshall and Cutler fast enough when they were signed. Suffice it to say their track record on guys they love isn't very good.

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MajorKong

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:27 pm

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So Accorsi would take Leaf over Manning; and Elway (who would rather play baseball than play for your team) over Marino or Kelly. I've got a bad feeling about this.

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Brick

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:31 pm

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MajorKong wrote:

So Accorsi would take Leaf over Manning; and Elway (who would rather play baseball than play for your team) over Marino or Kelly. I've got a bad feeling about this.

He did one hell of a job with the Giants though, including the quarterback.

The idea that you are forever stupid if you thought Leaf may be better than Manning is really dumb. Clearly wrong but every person has thoughts that prove to be incorrect.

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