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I'll do my part to make sure this hits 69. The dude abides, and I hate the fucking Eagles. Well I love them but the dude doesn't.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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I'll do my part to make sure this hits 69. The dude abides, and I hate the fucking Eagles. Well I love them but the dude doesn't.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.


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the fact that you're talking about music that way means you don't appreciate it the way an artist would. just leave it at that, brick. not everyone is an expert on everything. i can't figure out computer engineering so i'm not going to make some brazen remark just to get an argument started.
There isn't a right or wrong way to appreciate music.

I am just easily able to segment it.

1) What is influential or important.
2) What I think is of the highest quality.

1 and 2 may not be the same. There are bands/artists I hate that score very highly on #1 and bands/artists I love that have literally no influence or importance.


But you have to admit all opinions aren't equal. You can like Nelly all you want. It's your right. But when you suggest his music is "higher quality" than the Beatles, it's just wrong.

It's no different than someone saying Cameron Hughes Front 242 is superior to 1938 Beaulieu Reserve Cab. It's an opinion. Just not a good one.

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But your lack of understanding of the artform releases you from your obligation to try and appreciate it, so therefore your argument is nullified. sorry rick. you lose. you get nothing. good day, sir.
I do understand it. Many of these thoughts actually came from a college class I took on the very subject.

If we want to have a different thread about importance and significance of bands then we can do that and I'll tell you just how important Metallica is even though I don't like them.

I'll ask you though. When did music peak? Someone giving me an answer to this is really the only way to say I am wrong.

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But you have to admit all opinions aren't equal. You can like Nelly all you want. It's your right. But when you suggest his music is "higher quality" than the Beatles, it's just wrong.

It's no different than someone saying Cameron Hughes Front 242 is superior to 1938 Beaulieu Reserve Cab. It's an opinion. Just not a good one.


where do you stand man? i'm totally with you above, but cannot see any way shape or form that an educated music person would prefer anything Oasis did to Revolver. I'm only sleeping?? Dude, c'monman!!!

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When did music peak?

It never did.

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But you have to admit all opinions aren't equal. You can like Nelly all you want. It's your right. But when you suggest his music is "higher quality" than the Beatles, it's just wrong.
Let me point out I didn't say Nelly was "higher quality" than The Beatles. It's not all music being better simply because it is newer. You can still have horrible music made now.

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When did music peak?

It never did.



Weak response. CH trying to bail. Come on, we want the truth.

His palms are sweaty....

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music never peaked, it never will. music is timeless, like a beautiful girl. always regenerating


or like the doctor. you and CH have answered...there you have it.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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But you have to admit all opinions aren't equal. You can like Nelly all you want. It's your right. But when you suggest his music is "higher quality" than the Beatles, it's just wrong.
Let me point out I didn't say Nelly was "higher quality" than The Beatles. It's not all music being better simply because it is newer. You can still have horrible music made now.


But I know you like Nelly and I assume you aren't seeking out low quality music. Who would do such a thing?

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music never peaked, it never will. music is timeless, like a beautiful girl. always regenerating
I think it is fair but it also leaves the door wide open for a guy like me to think that many modern bands are better than The Beatles.

I'm still not sure anyone has actually said I'm wrong on that though.

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The Beatles are lame.

That being said music today is pretty much god awful. At least the goofy boy band no instrument playing fucks. I got no room for that. Fuckin spice girls.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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music never peaked, it never will. music is timeless, like a beautiful girl. always regenerating
I think it is fair but it also leaves the door wide open for a guy like me to think that many modern bands are better than The Beatles.

I'm still not sure anyone has actually said I'm wrong on that though.


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But I know you like Nelly and I assume you aren't seeking out low quality music. Who would do such a thing?
I like a lot of bad music. I don't know why.

Just like when I'm watching Step Brothers I know it's not Forrest Gump or Schindler's List.

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The Beatles are lame.

That being said music today is pretty much god awful. At least the goofy boy band no instrument playing fucks. I got no room for that. Fuckin spice girls.


so here's a story from a to z...


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The Beatles are lame.

That being said music today is pretty much god awful. At least the goofy boy band no instrument playing fucks. I got no room for that. Fuckin spice girls.


I want the Pet Shop Boys.

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The Beatles are lame.

That being said music today is pretty much god awful. At least the goofy boy band no instrument playing fucks. I got no room for that. Fuckin spice girls.


I want the Pet Shop Boys.

Like... inside you?

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But I know you like Nelly and I assume you aren't seeking out low quality music. Who would do such a thing?
I like a lot of bad music. I don't know why.

Just like when I'm watching Step Brothers I know it's not Forrest Gump or Schindler's List.


well "step brothers" is far more rewatchable first of all...


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music never peaked, it never will. music is timeless, like a beautiful girl. always regenerating
I think it is fair but it also leaves the door wide open for a guy like me to think that many modern bands are better than The Beatles.

I'm still not sure anyone has actually said I'm wrong on that though.


I think there are and have been bands better than the Beatles, but that doesn't seem to be your argument. I was under the impression you were suggesting that music got progressively better as if it were evolving toward an apex.

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But I know you like Nelly and I assume you aren't seeking out low quality music. Who would do such a thing?
I like a lot of bad music. I don't know why.

Just like when I'm watching Step Brothers I know it's not Forrest Gump or Schindler's List.


Step Brothers has been all over Directv this month. Lots of activities!

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music is always derivative of something else, and inspired by something else...EVEN CELTIC FOLK MUSIC.

Nobody actually likes Celtic Folk Music.
Zero people. Just like Wilco.


Wilco likes Celtic Folk Music.

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The Beatles are lame.

That being said music today is pretty much god awful. At least the goofy boy band no instrument playing fucks. I got no room for that. Fuckin spice girls.


I want the Pet Shop Boys.

Like... inside you?


Is CH in that band?

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It's possible there are better bands than the Beatles. I don't know of any that had that combination of quality and quantity though. Oasis certainly isn't one of them though. At least be not absurd with something like U2 or REM or Chuck Berry...

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I was under the impression you were suggesting that music got progressively better as if it were evolving toward an apex.

He was.
Swerving has commenced.

Wilco doesn't really like Wilco though.

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I want the Pet Shop Boys.

Like... inside you?


Is CH in that band?


I'm suddenly quite uncomfortable. I'm gonna go get me some Wild Turkey and try to drink myself into an alcohol induced amnesia and pretend I never saw this thread.

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I want the Pet Shop Boys.

Like... inside you?


Is CH in that band?


I'm suddenly quite uncomfortable. I'm gonna go get me some Wild Turkey and try to drink myself into an alcohol induced amnesia and pretend I never saw this thread.


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I think there are and have been bands better than the Beatles, but that doesn't seem to be your argument. I was under the impression you were suggesting that music got progressively better as if it were evolving toward an apex.
With any evolution you get peaks and valleys which tend to move higher rather than lower.

That doesn't mean The Baha Men surpassed The Beatles though.

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Let me use an example of a band that was mentioned heavily in my college class since the instructor loved punk rock.

The Ramones.
Influential. Important. Groundbreaking. Historical.

In terms of the product they produce though, Green Day is better. Green Day had advantages in time and influence but Green Day produces higher quality music.

Just like a Model T is more important than a hot hatch, you'd rather be driving the hot hatch when it is snowing.

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