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Start me up song is bad. Main riff is not.

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"Start Me Up" drains me of my will to exist. A song among the all-time worst. I have "All Right Now" in there, too.

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Shattered is crap. I can handle Start Me up...despite it's overuse.

the beatles have Abbey road, which despite the overmarketing and annoyance of the Beatles, is still an amazing record.

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the beatles have Abbey road, which despite the overmarketing and annoyance of the Beatles, is still an amazing record.

Nobody would even listen to that if it was made today. You heard the man.

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There is a reason that whole suburban neighborhoods have seen the houses get torn down and rebuilt.


Yeah, money. Not the desire to provide higher quality housing stock.

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Money and bad taste. What people have been doing to Hinsdale is obscene. Architects are playing practical jokes on these pill-poppers, if you ask me.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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There is a reason that whole suburban neighborhoods have seen the houses get torn down and rebuilt.


Yeah, money. Not the desire to provide higher quality housing stock.

Money and location.
These people absolutely HAVE to live with 6 blocks of downtown Naperville.
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Money and bad taste. What people have been doing to Hinsdale is obscene. Architects are playing practical jokes on these pill-poppers, if you ask me.


Families are smaller but houses have to be bigger. So we have some place to store all the crap we've been sold.

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the expected evolution of pretty much everything.

If this thread accomplishes nothing else, at least Andrew Bird got a new album title.

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This reminds me of how some audiophiles will tell you that Steely Dan's Aja is the greatest album of all time because of how well it was engineered. It's a very good album, and it is probably among the best engineering of all time, but they're missing the point. As a work of art that I value, I'd personally tier it somewhere with The Velvet Underground and Nico, and that album sounds like shit!

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Emotional Rescue is an underrated album from the just-post-Some Girls era.

"Let Me Go" is my jam.

"Start Me Up" is dreadful, but "Shattered" is just a tight little jam. Charlie Watts and Wyman are absolutely locked in. That little throwaway fill that Watts does during "this town's full of money grabbers..." is genius.

The worst aspect of the song is DeNiro's bizarro mugging to the camera in The Fan.

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No disrespect to Oasis or XTC...both have quality music, but I comparing them in any way shape or form with the Beatles is ridiculous.


But only because you know who the Beatles are and you know that XTC and Oasis would not exist without them having existed first (something that obviously shouldn't be discounted). If "Hey Jude", "Wonderwall", and "Dear God" all came out on the same day in 2006, I doubt most people would say "Hey Jude" was the best of the three songs.


If they have any sense, most people will say all three songs suck.

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Dear God is absolutely terrible. Cringeworthy from an otherwise decent band.

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Dear God is absolutely terrible. Cringeworthy from an otherwise decent band.



Again, the particular song is not the point. Pick your favorite song from each band.

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Dear God is absolutely terrible. Cringeworthy from an otherwise decent band.


I hate the way it's tacked on to Skylarking, which is otherwise pretty close to perfection.

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I've always preferred the Kinks to the Beatles.

I'll take "Waterloo Sunset" over "Eleanor Rigby" every time.

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The Beatles have a couple of dozen 5-star HOF Mt Rushmore songs. Randomly Here Comes the Sun. If you listen to that and don't appreciate it you are beyond musical hope.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7h1IphPfeU#t=11

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The Beatles have a couple of dozen 5-star HOF Mt Rushmore songs. Randomly Here Comes the Sun. If you listen to that and don't appreciate it you are beyond musical hope.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7h1IphPfeU#t=11




But "Wonderwall" is a great song too. The knock on it is the fact that it is so baldly derivative. Rick seems to be suggesting that such things aren't a consideration. Most of us think they are.

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I will admit I prefer Wonderwall to Honey Pie. :lol:

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This reminds me of how some audiophiles will tell you that Steely Dan's Aja is the greatest album of all time because of how well it was engineered. It's a very good album, and it is probably among the best engineering of all time, but they're missing the point. As a work of art that I value, I'd personally tier it somewhere with The Velvet Underground and Nico, and that album sounds like shit!

Like oh my god, The Nightfly is a far better produced album. Idiot audiophiles.


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The Beatles have a couple of dozen 5-star HOF Mt Rushmore songs. Randomly Here Comes the Sun. If you listen to that and don't appreciate it you are beyond musical hope.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7h1IphPfeU#t=11



I agree about "Here Comes the Sun." I vastly prefer Harrison to Lennon and McCartney.

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For every person that overrates The Beatles there's 5 more who think they get some musical street cred by acting like they're some special flower that can see they weren't really that good. I'll take my chances in saying a band with 3 of the best musicians of all time is actually great. That's even without getting into how underrated Ringo was. I mean Paul played the hell out of the drums in Back in the USSR when Ringo briefly quit, but as you listen to it you know something's missing because Ringo was a perfect fit for them.


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Money and bad taste. What people have been doing to Hinsdale is obscene. Architects are playing practical jokes on these pill-poppers, if you ask me.


They want houses that look like houses in South Barrington, on a tiny piece of land.

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But "Wonderwall" is a great song too.


Back beat, the word was on the street
That the fire in your heart is out
I'm sure you've heard it all before
But you never really had a doubt
I don't believe that anybody
Feels the way I do about you now


No, no it isn't.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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But "Wonderwall" is a great song too.


Back beat, the word was on the street
That the fire in your heart is out
I'm sure you've heard it all before
But you never really had a doubt
I don't believe that anybody
Feels the way I do about you now


No, no it isn't.



Yeah, it really is.


Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
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Dear God is absolutely terrible. Cringeworthy from an otherwise decent band.


I hate the way it's tacked on to Skylarking, which is otherwise pretty close to perfection.

The remastered version has it between "The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul" and "Dying." Now that ruins it. Making it the closing track kind of acknowledged that it was tacked on by popular demand. At least that way, you can end it at "Sacrificial Bonfire" as intended if you please.

Hmph, now I'm listening to Skylarking in the dead of winter, which feels wrong. Such a spring/summer album.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But "Wonderwall" is a great song too.


Back beat, the word was on the street
That the fire in your heart is out
I'm sure you've heard it all before
But you never really had a doubt
I don't believe that anybody
Feels the way I do about you now


No, no it isn't.



Yeah, it really is.


Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes


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I've heard the same audiophile regarding "Brothers In Arms" by Dire Straits.

Mark Knopfler is a hell of a guitar player, but that album sucks, regardless of how crisp it was recorded.

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I've heard the same audiophile regarding "Brothers In Arms" by Dire Straits.
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that's a perfectly pleasant album in a nostalgic kind of way. Walk of Life always reminds me of the Heavy Fuel Crew.

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There is a reason that whole suburban neighborhoods have seen the houses get torn down and rebuilt.


Yeah, money. Not the desire to provide higher quality housing stock.
Even the old houses that stay are virtually torn down and rebuilt. It's pretty much just the frame that stays as the original.

I was researching some housing in Oak Park and pretty much every house was simultaneously "Old and historic" and "Completely redone and with all modern amenities". People in Oak Park must really love living in old frames of houses.

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