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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:23 am 
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think those things are happening in England and France.


They're happening in Dearborn, Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlLGzV5yk#t=574


That is very disturbing. Were those security people actual cops, or just wanna-be bullies? I didn't see guns or handcuffs on those guys. I hope they aren't actual cops.

When I said those things aren't happening in England and France, I was referring to the stoning and female genital mutilation.

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Chus wrote:
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think those things are happening in England and France.


They're happening in Dearborn, Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlLGzV5yk#t=574


That is very disturbing. Were those security people actual cops, or just wanna-be bullies? I didn't see guns or handcuffs on those guys. I hope they aren't actual cops.

When I said those things aren't happening in England and France, I was referring to the stoning and female genital mutilation.


Look, I'm not exactly sure what's real and what's bullshit, that's why I posed the question. But one thing I am 100% certain of is that the Western media gives Islam kid gloves treatment that they would never afford to any other religion.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think those things are happening in England and France.


They're happening in Dearborn, Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlLGzV5yk#t=574


That is very disturbing. Were those security people actual cops, or just wanna-be bullies? I didn't see guns or handcuffs on those guys. I hope they aren't actual cops.

When I said those things aren't happening in England and France, I was referring to the stoning and female genital mutilation.


Look, I'm not exactly sure what's real and what's bullshit, that's why I posed the question. But one thing I am 100% certain of is that the Western media gives Islam kid gloves treatment that they would never afford to any other religion.


Bill Maher was barbecued for making that point, not solely about the media, but the left in general. I believe both of you are right. The left is too soft, but the right pushes way too far in the other direction.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:34 am 
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Chus wrote:
Bill Maher was barbecued for making that point, not solely about the media, but the left in general. I believe both of you are right. The left is too soft, but the right pushes way too far in the other direction.


Yeah, and that thing in Dearborn, those Christers knew exactly what was going to happen. That's why they were there. But there's a problem in denying them their rights in order to appease another religious group.

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Bill Maher was barbecued for making that point, not solely about the media, but the left in general. I believe both of you are right. The left is too soft, but the right pushes way too far in the other direction.


It's some enemy-of-my-enemy bullshit. The right "pushes way too far" against Islam, and then the left is sympathetic to a belief system completely incompatible with their own just to remain properly opposed to the devil they know.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Chus wrote:
Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think those things are happening in England and France.


They're happening in Dearborn, Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlLGzV5yk#t=574


Did you watch that video? That video was bullshit. It was highly edited and they were clearly looking for something they could use as propaganda. Security at events all over the country would likely do the same.

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that chick on the left has legs like tree stumps.

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that chick on the left has legs like tree stumps.


Exactly! I'll pass.

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It's some enemy-of-my-enemy bullshit. The right "pushes way too far" against Islam, and then the left is sympathetic to a belief system completely incompatible with their own just to remain properly opposed to the devil they know.


The thing I'm most amazed about is how little the people commenting actually know about Islam. The concepts of Dar al Islam and Dar al Harb are real things. They're not just something invented by paranoid nutjobs to disparage a major religion. Taqiyya is an Islamic concept not some creation of Western "haters".

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think those things are happening in England and France.


They're happening in Dearborn, Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlLGzV5yk#t=574


Did you watch that video? That video was bullshit. It was highly edited and they were clearly looking for something they could use as propaganda. Security at events all over the country would likely do the same.


That's wrong, Nas. They closed down public streets for a religious event and then trampled all over the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens. Can you imagine the hue and cry if Wheaton closed down its streets for Christ Fest and chased Muslims or Jews out of it?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:11 am 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think those things are happening in England and France.


They're happening in Dearborn, Michigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYlLGzV5yk#t=574


Did you watch that video? That video was bullshit. It was highly edited and they were clearly looking for something they could use as propaganda. Security at events all over the country would likely do the same.


That's wrong, Nas. They closed down public streets for a religious event and then trampled all over the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens. Can you imagine the hue and cry if Wheaton closed down its streets for Christ Fest and chased Muslims or Jews out of it?


They paid for the permits for whatever type of event it was. I doubt it was a religious only event considering he only visited 1 booth. Streets are closed down all the time for events. They didn't trample on the rights of anyone. It was open to the public and they escorted a guy out that was causing problems. It appears he was there to harass a particular vendor and they probably answered all his questions. Security at events all around the country would do the same.

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They paid for the permits for whatever type of event it was. I doubt it was a religious only event considering he only visited 1 booth. Streets are closed down all the time for events. They didn't trample on the rights of anyone. It was open to the public and they escorted a guy out that was causing problems. It appears he was there to harass a particular vendor and they probably answered all his questions. Security at events all around the country would do the same.


It was an Arab/Islamic Festival. Are you really arguing this? Streets are closed down for events all the time, yes. And it's often controversial. It becomes especially so when the act of closing a public street is combined with limiting the Constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech.

Man, it's a huge leap to say that a guy asking questions or holding a sign is the one "causing problems" as opposed to the people attacking him. And on MLK Day too. For shame, Nas, for shame.

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Paris mayor may sue Fox News over no-go-zones report
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/201 ... /22062179/

Fox News Responds to Paris Mayor’s Lawsuit Threat
"We empathize with the citizens of France as they go through a healing process and return to everyday life. However, we find the Mayor’s comments regarding a lawsuit misplaced."

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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It's some enemy-of-my-enemy bullshit. The right "pushes way too far" against Islam, and then the left is sympathetic to a belief system completely incompatible with their own just to remain properly opposed to the devil they know.


The thing I'm most amazed about is how little the people commenting actually know about Islam. The concepts of Dar al Islam and Dar al Harb are real things. They're not just something invented by paranoid nutjobs to disparage a major religion. Taqiyya is an Islamic concept not some creation of Western "haters".


Once again I will ask that you guys read: While Europe Slept. It will open your eyes about a lot of stuff that is going on in Europe in regards to Islam.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
It's some enemy-of-my-enemy bullshit. The right "pushes way too far" against Islam, and then the left is sympathetic to a belief system completely incompatible with their own just to remain properly opposed to the devil they know.


The thing I'm most amazed about is how little the people commenting actually know about Islam. The concepts of Dar al Islam and Dar al Harb are real things. They're not just something invented by paranoid nutjobs to disparage a major religion. Taqiyya is an Islamic concept not some creation of Western "haters".


Once again I will ask that you guys read: While Europe Slept. It will open your eyes about a lot of stuff that is going on in Europe in regards to Islam.


A writers opinion on Islam in Europe. I guess you can say people should watch Fox News to open their eyes about NO GO ZONES in Europe. The truth is out there somewhere but its not sexy. So you will never see it. It doesnt sell or get ratings.


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