_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

so nobody wint'd?

Bernstein's in all our heads, we're hate-listening.

That's too bad. I think the 'all aboard, media!' stuff from Beckman was ridiculous, but talking about GPA is what they all do.

I'm worse than that. I'm hate reading a transcription of a hate listened to broadcast.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Just not listening, could probably replicate the interview without hearing it.

AD at U of I needs to know that Danny enjoys making fun of them before he puts the guy on the air. Have to calculate the potential good or bad that comes from such an interview? Do the alumni want to hear Beckman fight bernstein? Dr. ken? Do you?

_________________
"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Braggart.

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

No. But that's only because he's Beckman and he's an idiot.

I'd be up for Groce doing it. That guy is a maniac.

I didn't hear it but in my head I think Beckman sounded like a doofus.

_________________
You know me like that.

Illini's coach is not a genius he is a football coach that couldn't get his point across. B&B went with the he is asking the media get in the tank for him angle. I think he really was asking people to accentuate some positive and do not default to lazy just dump on illinois. BF right that AD should not let him on with these two.

_________________
Elections have consequences.

Was this a scheduled interview or did Beckman just hear something and call in?

_________________
You know me like that.

I think he just called in. They didn't say they'd have him on.

And oh man, this Frank from Oak Park call. I'm waiting for his voice to break and just be like "I'm sorry, I...I can't anymore."

_________________

so how did black and white physicists earn instant shotgun honors... ? i'd be fine if i never heard frank from oak park again

Dan's talking out his ass about the Maple Leafs. They're not doing a "Cub thing." They hired a stats guy, but they're not tearing down and rebuilding. They're spinning their wheels the same way they've been spinning them for years.

_________________

North went toe to toe with Ozzie...B&B go toe to toe with Beckman....how sports radio has fallen

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

His "voice" is fake. Two weeks ago he coughed/hacked and his real voice, the non-3-packs-a-day voice disappeared.

_________________
Same sex, different habits - who gives a fucking shit
This won't make the species unfurl

That was funny from the my kid plays so I am an expert guy.

_________________
Elections have consequences.

"You know what, Ann....you and I are soulmates because I hate hockey too."

The Leafs might have to tear it down and start over now. They've been trying to build around Kessel and Phaneuf for years and it's gotten them nowhere. I would be ecstatic if they got Connor McDavid.

MLSE is not capable of a full-scale rebuild. They don't have the patience, especially now that their overlords at Rogers are freaking out about having overpaid for the NHL rights. They'll probably keep groping at quick fixes until the end of time.

_________________

Dan needs to be reminded of the need for media objectivity next time he praises a GM who has overseen the worst 3 years of losing in Cub history

He is correct about Beckman but be consistent.

I think Beckman wants this to be like Auburn where the local radio guys will join the coach in a chant of War Eagle during his call in

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

That's pretty much what he said. A good coach who could put together some strong seasons might have a chance to achieve that with Champaign media. No one will never be able to extend it all the way to Chicago. And saying that shit to bernstein? He obviously didn't know who he was talking to.

You're right, though. It's funny because Epstein clearly has danny under a spell and he doesn't even seem to know it.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Which is very odd given the pile of shit these quick fixes have produced the past ten years. The ACC has been and will continue to be sold out every night no matter the product. I would think that gives them carte blanche to rebuild Buffalo Sabres style.

I've read the Rogers broadcasts are complete garbage. As always with sports broadcasts the talent is never the issue with TV execs. What an ass backwards boys club.

He's sniffing every GMs boxer briefs. He's no longer exclusive with Theo.

It's also funny because B&B are clearly adversarial against U of I, while also being in bed with Northwestern because they give Bernstein free tickets and his kid has a better chance of getting in there because of it. You and other Illini fans can't really say it without looking like you are just mad but I can because Purdue might as well not exist on Chicago radio.

Beckman was saying, poorly, that the constant negativity about Illinois doesn't do anyone any good. Compare them to what Indiana gets in Indianapolis or what pretty much every benchmark state school gets and you see that Illinois really is at a disadvantage. They all still report on the bad stuff but the tone of pretty much everything is almost always positive.

Don't get me wrong. Beckman deserves to have negative things written about him but B&B are probably the #1 example of Illini hating Chicago media.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

CBS) In a swift minute, Illinois football coach Tim Beckman was asked to join the Boers and Bernstein Show on Wednesday afternoon, and he was happy to oblige on national signing day after the Illini had inked what Rivals.com rated the sixth-best class in the Big Ten.
What followed was legendary radio.
Earlier Wednesday at a press conference, Beckman had asked the media be more positive about his program that’s gone 12-25 in his three years in Champaign, saying among other things, “The challenge is still how important is the University of Illinois to you?” and “I’m going to put it on you — what are they reading?”
Illinois went 6-7 last season, falling in the Heart of Dallas Bowl.
Explaining the media’s job to Beckman was initially the main focus of Boers and Bernstein, who noted that journalists have the responsibility to tell the truth.
Beckman said he understood, but he still stood by his assertion about positivity.
“The perception that’s out there is always important to a 18-year-old, 19-year-old, 20-year-old, 21-year-old player as they’re turning into a man,” Beckman said. “I think it’s important that we try to surround them with as much positive stuff (as possible).”
Then Beckman doubled down on his pitch to the media members, implying they are a key cog in Illinois winning football games.
“I’m not going after the media,” Beckman said. “I’m asking for help. I didn’t go after the media one bit. I was just saying if we could all be in this together, that’s all I said. Let’s be in this thing together. Let’s build this thing together into a championship program. Let’s talk as much as we can on trying to build it together.
“Why can’t we talk about some of the positive things?”
Beckman doesn’t read the negative stories, he said, but he gets updates from staffers about the tone of the media and hears about it on the recruiting trail.
“When you’re out on the road and you’re recruiting and talking, (you) just (get) the sense of those things,” Beckman said. “And again, the only thing I’m saying is we’re all in this together.
“I want it to be a champion. I want it to be like Ohio State did this year. There’s no question about that. I’m trying to build it to be the best and one of the proudest things the state of Illinois has.”
There was also just some typical Beckman tangents during the interview that are rather hard to provide any context to.
For example:
— “We are being better at developing men,” Beckman said. “And that’s what we’re trying to get accomplished. That’s why the game of football was invented, in my opinion, being around it for 50 years of my life — is to influence our young men involved in our programs to get better as men.”
— “I understand what winning is, but I want to well-round our student-athlete as much as I can,” Beckman said.
— “There are other things involved in our program that are bragging points, top-10 country stuff,” Beckman said. “I’m just adding that to it. Let’s win. Let’s make sure our kids are graduating instead of leaving early or not getting degrees. Let’s make sure they stay out of jail. Let’s make sure they’re doing everything in our community to be successful.”
Words can’t truly do the interview justice, so take the time to listen to it here if you want the full experience.

Dan has stated he never had any intention of going to U of I. I assume he considers it beneath him. Funny thing is those hillbillies really know how to engineer and wield t-charts.

I can't blame him. He didn't want to be surrounded by racists and townies. That is why Duke was such a good choice.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Dan seems to have issues with the idea of having pride in where you are from in general. Whether it is city, state or country. I find it odd.

_________________
Elections have consequences.

Why should he support a guy with a poor three year record just because he appears to have signed some top end talent that has them positioned for success in the near future?

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Unless it's New York.

_________________

good one but honestly, I think even THEO couldnt get away with saying "were all in this together" Dan would rip him for that (or maybe he'd say it was Ricketts forcing him to say it.)