Cubs Minor League prospects

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

The bad part is over and that has Sox fans worried (ridiculous to worry about a team like the Cubs....but they DO)

I don't think it is worried.

It seems like many Sox fans didn't think you had to lose for 5 straight years to rebuild. Being competitive doesn't mean that is wrong.

Ok. But that is in the past, kinda silly to argue about it now like something can be done.

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

rogers park bryan wrote:

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Dolphin stood on three platforms last year

Rizzo sucks (All star)
Samardzija is a #4 and will return nothing of value (2 top prospects)
White Sox are in the WC hunt (89 losses)

Also, after making the fools gold comments on Castro, dolphin would later say "why are you all surpised at Castro's resrugence? He's a known commodity?"

I guess he was a known commodity of fools gold

Lies abound.

Samardzija is as I stated.

The White Sox were in the wild card hunt and were sunk by injuries.

Castro is a known commodity, it's just that what is known doesn't jive with your typically Cubbie expectations for him to be all world.

Rod · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:00 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

The bad part is over and that has Sox fans worried (ridiculous to worry about a team like the Cubs....but they DO)

I don't think it is worried.

It seems like many Sox fans didn't think you had to lose for 5 straight years to rebuild. Being competitive doesn't mean that is wrong.

1908

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:01 pm

good dolphin wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rpb coming off like a guy who believes in the plan!

Just reporting what happened without the white sox glasses.

Id have preferred they signed an All star team in 2011 but that didnt happen so here we are

Here's the thing. The bad part is over and that has Sox fans worried (ridiculous to worry about a team like the Cubs....but they DO)

I don't think there is a single Sox fan who is worried. The Sox look fine to me in the present and future.

Bullshit. bigfan accepted your bet and you added more stipulations and carveouts than a fucking bill passed by Congress.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

good dolphin wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

[
Dolphin stood on three platforms last year

Rizzo sucks (All star)
Samardzija is a #4 and will return nothing of value (2 top prospects)
White Sox are in the WC hunt (89 losses)

Also, after making the fools gold comments on Castro, dolphin would later say "why are you all surpised at Castro's resrugence? He's a known commodity?"

I guess he was a known commodity of fools gold

Lies abound.

Samardzija is as I stated.

The White Sox were in the wild card hunt and were sunk by injuries.

Castro is a known commodity, it's just that what is known doesn't jive with your typically Cubbie expectations for him to be all world.

0 for 3.

Bad year for you.

Everything I posted is 100% accurate and can not be refuted. Nothing could even be framed as a lie. I used your exact words.

Good day

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:04 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

Ok. But that is in the past, kinda silly to argue about it now like something can be done.

What good dolphin said was in the past too.

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

Kirkwood wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rpb coming off like a guy who believes in the plan!

Just reporting what happened without the white sox glasses.

Id have preferred they signed an All star team in 2011 but that didnt happen so here we are

Here's the thing. The bad part is over and that has Sox fans worried (ridiculous to worry about a team like the Cubs....but they DO)

I don't think there is a single Sox fan who is worried. The Sox look fine to me in the present and future.

Bullshit. bigfan accepted your bet and you added more stipulations and carveouts than a fucking bill passed by Congress.

bullshit right back at you. He threw down $1,000 play with some cockamamie plan that I form a conglomerate to cover it. Would you throw down $1,000 on a play even if you strongly believed in it.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Ok. But that is in the past, kinda silly to argue about it now like something can be done.

What good dolphin said was in the past too.

Well are we talking about the past or not?

you should help dolphin. he's drowning.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:07 pm

good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I don't think there is a single Sox fan who is worried. The Sox look fine to me in the present and future.

Bullshit. bigfan accepted your bet and you added more stipulations and carveouts than a fucking bill passed by Congress.

bullshit right back at you. He threw down $1,000 play with some cockamamie plan that I form a conglomerate to cover it. Would you throw down $1,000 on a play even if you strongly believed in it.

Over 3 years big shooter. That's 30 bucks a month. Don't see the issue at all.

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:08 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

Well are we talking about the past or not?

you should help dolphin. he's drowning.

You seem to be saying the 5 years of losing don't matter but you also want to say that Sox fans are going to be proven wrong because of the coming success of the Cubs. It can't be both.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Well are we talking about the past or not?

you should help dolphin. he's drowning.

You seem to be saying the 5 years of losing don't matter but you also want to say that Sox fans are going to be proven wrong because of the coming success of the Cubs. It can't be both.

Never said the first part or anything close to it.

It mattered, but its (pretty much) over now.

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:11 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Well are we talking about the past or not?

you should help dolphin. he's drowning.

You seem to be saying the 5 years of losing don't matter but you also want to say that Sox fans are going to be proven wrong because of the coming success of the Cubs. It can't be both.

Never said the first part or anything close to it.

It mattered, but its (pretty much) over now.

So the Sox fans had a point.

Glad we agree!

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Well are we talking about the past or not?

you should help dolphin. he's drowning.

You seem to be saying the 5 years of losing don't matter but you also want to say that Sox fans are going to be proven wrong because of the coming success of the Cubs. It can't be both.

Never said the first part or anything close to it.

It mattered, but its (pretty much) over now.

So the Sox fans had a point.

Glad we agree!

Never said Sox fans never make good points

Stop thinking I hate the other team and Im completely biased in my thoughts...you're confusing me with every Sox fan

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

Kirkwood wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I don't think there is a single Sox fan who is worried. The Sox look fine to me in the present and future.

Bullshit. bigfan accepted your bet and you added more stipulations and carveouts than a fucking bill passed by Congress.

bullshit right back at you. He threw down $1,000 play with some cockamamie plan that I form a conglomerate to cover it. Would you throw down $1,000 on a play even if you strongly believed in it.

Over 3 years big shooter. That's 30 bucks a month. Don't see the issue at all.

Such a lie. When's the last time you threw down $1,000 on a play?

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:19 pm

good dolphin wrote:

Such a lie. When's the last time you threw down $1,000 on a play?

The problem with that bet is that you could have gotten better value in so many other places.

You'd be better to simply bet the Sox over the next three years instead of that bet.

conns7901 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:36 pm **Posts:** 19348

immessedup17 wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

He tried but failed to sign Shark

good dolphin wrote:

312player wrote:

Agreed, never liked simardzida ...I just shake my head when I hear all these dopes talk about him being an ace and wanting to lock him up long term. I feel confident in 3 months his era and whip will be real close to his career total ...he's never been great and never will be...I don't understand why Epstein is not moving this clown now...he should have been traded a month ago.

I think it's pretty clear the rest of MLB is not fooled.

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good dolphin wrote:

...with Rizzo and Castro looking like fool's gold and all those great prospects in A ball it looks like the earliest you will see some light is 2015 with winning seasons no earlier that 2017. It seems like a long term contract for Samardzija would not be a good investment as he will be well into his 30s when the team is good.

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good dolphin wrote:

jimmypasta wrote:

I don't think this guy can handle a full season of MLB. His arm seems to "go dead" here and there. Flip him & keep Garza?

It's not a matter of arm, it's just a regression to the mean. The guy is a 4.00 ERA pitcher and, surprise, he has a 4 ERA as the season moves. You are seeing the good side of this is Edwin Jackson.

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Sorry just wanted to make sure I documented several of good dolphin's Samardzija thoughts over the last couple of seasons. Before he joined the South Side, if you couldn't tell.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:23 pm

good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Bullshit. bigfan accepted your bet and you added more stipulations and carveouts than a fucking bill passed by Congress.

bullshit right back at you. He threw down $1,000 play with some cockamamie plan that I form a conglomerate to cover it. Would you throw down $1,000 on a play even if you strongly believed in it.

Over 3 years big shooter. That's 30 bucks a month. Don't see the issue at all.

Such a lie. When's the last time you threw down $1,000 on a play?

That's just math?

I never have bet $1,000. The highest I've ever bet was $500 on Ravens/49ers.

As mentioed above, the proposal is $1,000 over 3 years. $1,000 over 1,095 days. I don't understand your trepidation. You have provided unassailable evidence the Sox will be superior over 3 years. Easy money and yet more hedging than a Bernstein breaking story.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:28 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Such a lie. When's the last time you threw down $1,000 on a play?

The problem with that bet is that you could have gotten better value in so many other places.

You'd be better to simply bet the Sox over the next three years instead of that bet.

dolphin is the one who proposed it.

Northside_Dan · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:30 pm

Damn. IMU doing work. CSFMB Fast Track.

Brick · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:31 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

dolphin is the one who proposed it.

Seemed like bigfan was the one who proposed it.

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

Kirkwood wrote:

[That's just math?

I never have bet $1,000. The highest I've ever bet was $500 on Ravens/49ers.

As mentioed above, the proposal is $1,000 over 3 years. $1,000 over 1,095 days. I don't understand your trepidation. You have provided unassailable evidence the Sox will be superior over 3 years. Easy money and yet more hedging than a Bernstein breaking story.

Why didn't you put $1,000 on the Ravens/49ers? It was almost six months until your next football bet. You could have spread that money over the time period and it would have only been a few dollars per day.

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

Kirkwood wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Such a lie. When's the last time you threw down $1,000 on a play?

The problem with that bet is that you could have gotten better value in so many other places.

You'd be better to simply bet the Sox over the next three years instead of that bet.

dolphin is the one who proposed it.

He amended the original proposal.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:41 pm

good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

[That's just math?

I never have bet $1,000. The highest I've ever bet was $500 on Ravens/49ers.

As mentioed above, the proposal is $1,000 over 3 years. $1,000 over 1,095 days. I don't understand your trepidation. You have provided unassailable evidence the Sox will be superior over 3 years. Easy money and yet more hedging than a Bernstein breaking story.

Why didn't you put $1,000 on the Ravens/49ers? It was almost six months until your next football bet. You could have spread that money over the time period and it would have only been a few dollars per day.

Don't have big shot lawyer money. All you'd need to do is skip the salon for the sports clips. It'll add up quickly.

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

Kirkwood wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

[That's just math?

I never have bet $1,000. The highest I've ever bet was $500 on Ravens/49ers.

As mentioed above, the proposal is $1,000 over 3 years. $1,000 over 1,095 days. I don't understand your trepidation. You have provided unassailable evidence the Sox will be superior over 3 years. Easy money and yet more hedging than a Bernstein breaking story.

Why didn't you put $1,000 on the Ravens/49ers? It was almost six months until your next football bet. You could have spread that money over the time period and it would have only been a few dollars per day.

Don't have big shot lawyer money. All you'd need to do is skip the salon for the sports clips. It'll add up quickly.

I have big shot lawyer money. So does my wife. So do my children. My in laws even have some.

Don't you have big shot accountant money?

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:41 am

Baseball prospectus organizational prospects rankings are out:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=25592

Quote:

1. Chicago Cubs
Farm System Ranking in 2014: 2
2015 Top Ten Prospects: Link
Top Prospect: Addison Russell (2)
Prospects on the BP 101: 7
State of the System: Despite graduating infielders Arismendy Alcantara and Javier Baez, and mildly uninspiring years from former Top 10 prospects like C.J. Edwards and Christian Villanueva, the Cubs are the proud owner of the game’s top system. With the 2014 arrival of shortstop Addison Russell via trade, the explosive emergence of third baseman Kris Bryant, and the selection of a hit-first prospect like Kyle Schwarber, the Cubs remain absolutely loaded with impact talent. The arrival and emergence of those players doesn’t even begin to touch on the continued presence of outfielders Jorge Soler and Albert Almora, as well as quality depth of high ceiling players like Gleyber Torres, Eloy Jimenez, Carson Sands, and Mark Zagunis. The Cubs’ system is loaded to the gills with talent that could help their roster continue to improve internally, or via trade.
Must-See Affiliate: Triple-A Iowa
Prospects to See There: Kris Bryant, Addison Russell, Pierce Johnson

Division rivals:
Pirates 8th
Cardinals 13th
Reds 15th
Brewers 26th

THE INQUISITOR · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:09 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

Baseball prospectus organizational prospects rankings are out:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=25592

Quote:

1. Chicago Cubs
Farm System Ranking in 2014: 2
2015 Top Ten Prospects: Link
Top Prospect: Addison Russell (2)
Prospects on the BP 101: 7
State of the System: Despite graduating infielders Arismendy Alcantara and Javier Baez, and mildly uninspiring years from former Top 10 prospects like C.J. Edwards and Christian Villanueva, the Cubs are the proud owner of the game’s top system. With the 2014 arrival of shortstop Addison Russell via trade, the explosive emergence of third baseman Kris Bryant, and the selection of a hit-first prospect like Kyle Schwarber, the Cubs remain absolutely loaded with impact talent. The arrival and emergence of those players doesn’t even begin to touch on the continued presence of outfielders Jorge Soler and Albert Almora, as well as quality depth of high ceiling players like Gleyber Torres, Eloy Jimenez, Carson Sands, and Mark Zagunis. The Cubs’ system is loaded to the gills with talent that could help their roster continue to improve internally, or via trade.
Must-See Affiliate: Triple-A Iowa
Prospects to See There: Kris Bryant, Addison Russell, Pierce Johnson

Division rivals:
Pirates 8th
Cardinals 13th
Reds 15th
Brewers 26th

Let me save the subdivision some time and effort....

1. ALL prospects fail ALL the time
2. These guys are just writers making stuff up.
3. Click bait
4. The PLAN is a failure..Theo is a CON man..
5. 2005

OK we can go from there.

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:27 pm

THE INQUISITOR wrote:

5. 2005

2005.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:55 am

Fangraphs Top 200 prospects has been released.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fangraphs-top-200-prospect-list/

Quote:

1. Kris Bryant, 3B, Chicago Cubs
3. Addison Russell, SS, Chicago Cubs
13. Jorge Soler, RF, Chicago Cubs
21. Kyle Schwarber, LF, Chicago Cubs
64. C.J. Edwards, RHP, Chicago Cubs
92. Albert Almora, CF, Chicago Cubs
124. Duane Underwood, RHP, Chicago Cubs
125. Pierce Johnson, RHP, Chicago Cubs

Vogelbach, McKinney and Torres miss the cut.

There's blurbs included for each top 200 guy and the organizational write-up is very in-depth.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

How is Almora still a top 100 guy?

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

rogers park bryan wrote:

How is Almora still a top 100 guy?

you fully know the answer to that

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