I know where the middle of the middle is, but I think the question was, where does the line between middle and rich begin.

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$80k to $200k for an individual.

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White= Middle class. The certification comes in the mail shortly after birth

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You want me to post my W-2 don't you?

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WHat I find interesting is people vilifying the pensioners,teachers,police,state workers,etc. The reason we have a pension problem is not their fault,they paid their share of the bargain. What happened was the state did not fund the pensions They went and spent it on other stuff,what did they spend it on? Roads?No. Schools?no. Paying off Bills?no. What they did was create more bloated govt thus making the pension problem even worse. Add to the fact that even during the years when the state was doing well we where still not paying our bills correctly. Where has all this money gone? The Feds really have to come in and audit the fuck out of this state, especially if we are going to do the bankruptcy thing. Hate to say it but they might just have to do what was done in the Southern states after the Civil war and the Feds take over the running of the state, all the current elected officials are kicked out and it is started all over again.

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Well, it's an arbitrary definition, so I guess you're right.


It depends on where you live, obviously. Chicago would be on the high end.

try 40k. C'mon now.

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Good chart on Wikipedia, in 2011 dollars,

20th percentile
$20,262

50th
$50,954

80th
$101,582

95th
$186,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_ ... ted_States

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The term rich only has two definitions:
1) Person makes at least 20% more than me.
2) Person has cooler stuff even if they are in debt and can never consider retiring.

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It never fails with you.

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I'm sure that there are many many CSFMB'rs who are in the 80th to 95th percentiles. Congrats!

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I was very fortunate to learn early on that things aren't always as they appear to be.

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So according to CSFMB the middle class is between 40 thousand and 40 Million per year

But the point is, Rick is right again. No sarcasm.

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Look at rpb with his job making $39,980,000!

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He is. I would say its more than 20% in some cases.

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But my Metra Monthly pass is 62,000 dollars

Damn. I just realized I messed up my own joke.

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weren't the Bunkers considered middle class ?

Twice what I make would be "rich" to me

RPB makes great investments and he's never shared any information with the group. #Selfish

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But the fact that you might be in the 50th percentile for income wouldn't necessarily make you "middle class" since that term is intended to signify a certain level of social status, control over one's economic circumstances, buying power, etc. The fact that the median household income in the U.S. is somewhere around $50,000/year suggests that many Americans are standing on the precipice of insolvency. That ain't middle class.

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Yeah, wasnt sure what you meant there

You mean $39,980?

He told me to buy Radio Shack. #NowINeedASecondJobTrack

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I told DB to buy Radio Shack, the price doubled and I was mocked. #ICantTradeForYou

EDIT: See, he doesnt even understand that a 20-50% profit is a good thing. To this day, he believes I was wrong to suggest buying a stock that immediately rose 20% and eventually nearly tripled.

Still not sure if you understand how right I was.


You could have literally doubled your money if you would have listened.


Is 50% not good enough for you?

It should have been that you made $32 million, since you were saying that $40 million a year made you rich.

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Yeah but isn't that a function of a historically low corporate tax rate? Aren't corporations taxed at about 10-20% of the rate they paid in the Eisenhower era? Inequality has obviously skyrocketed over the past three decades; the state's financial problems are in part a function of that social dynamic.

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$50K in Des Moines or Omaha is certainly different than $50K in San Fran or NYC.

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Never said anything about that. Don't think that's how it is but good for you. Pinhead fits.