We are sending more and more "crates" to Iraq. Guns, Ammo, etc. We have close to 5,000 advisors on the ground. We provide air support on most missions and have 10,000 to 15,000 troops at Udeid in Qatar. The Qatar government wants more US troops, by the way, who has customized the air base to US specs.

Soldiers have authority to fire, in the event they are in a threatening situation.

We are now at a $2 bill budget for the mission, in 2015.

Are we waiting for ISIS to get more powerful, take a few more cities, and then we will really get into it?

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Nothing to see here. We pulled out of Iraq.

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We should be sending them a bill then for this round of defense funding, as we approach 2 Bill!

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

So we are on the brink of losing Dept of homeland Security but we are pumping product overseas....sheesh

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Correct...

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Wake me up when we defeat an idea.

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Nas,it has been done before.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

That idea is killing people one by one and yes, as the POTUS stated, it happened in the past.....but I guess then we are just as dumb as we were 100's of years ago.

Let me chisel this in stone, literally.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Homeland security is a wasteful agency. Bush created it out of public fear. They don't really do anything. Simply organizing the top officials from each agency was all that needed to be done. Homeland security is like a police department for the police department. Just a waste of resources.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

That's an interesting take. It seems like by making such a statement you do understand- on some level at least- that the enemy is Islam. Islam is the idea we're discussing, isn't it?

While I agree that it is damn near impossible to defeat an idea with force, a good start would be to at least acknowledge that there's this idea out there and it's reprehensible and has no place in the kind of society we've built over the last 1000 years.

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ISIS is going to be a great proving ground as to whether moderate Islam exists in that part of the world.

If what they say is true about the difference between moderate Islam and radical Islam then ISIS should be destroyed by the moderates without the United States even using a single bomb.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Wrong. Muslims aren't the only one's fighting. After 14 years and trillions of dollars spent the only thing we've done is help their recruiting. I'm starting to believe that's our goal. We definitely haven't changed any hearts or minds.

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No such thing as Extreme Militant Islam or any combination thereof.

ISIS has nothing, zero, nada to do with Islam.

And I agree with both BRick and JORR to a large extent. The thing is by not calling this what it is and instead living in a total fantasy world and saying it's something totally different and completely unrelated the President and his administration are removing any responsibility the moderates have or should have for what is going in.

It's quite funny, during the Presidents council on "Extremism" what was it they were actually there to discuss? Buddhists? Lutherans? Atheists? It's quite the false reality they have constructed.

I am interested to here about the many non Muslim members of ISIS.

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So if President Cheney and President Obama said this was a war on Islamic extremist this would have been over years ago?

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They're successfully recruiting young people all around the world. People that look like you and me are rushing to join them. Many Americans have joined them. Their propaganda is working.

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To some extent all wars are wars on ideas. I'm not sure why you hold this special respect for this particular horrible idea that most definitely needs to be defeated.

Think of how dumb it would sound to say that we shouldn't have fought the Germans in WWII because we were just helping their recruiting and besides that not every German wants to wipe Jews off the planet. There were moderate Germans!

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That's the whole point. These people are not loyal to any nation other than Islam. The Americans you speak of are American Muslims who don't really consider themselves American at all.

What a lot of people who know and understand nothing but our Western liberal paradigm don't seem to grasp is that Islam is a complete system for living. There isn't room for democracy within Islam. That would mean you and me making laws and the laws have already been established by Allah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbMnA3uO9As

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If you do not convert to their way of Islam you are killed.

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Or if you convert from Islam to another religion you are killed.

Limited options it seems. So lets just assume that Nas' people from all over the world are Muslim or will become Muslim.

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No, you can convert...and pay a FINE! lol serious...

And they are recruiting people from around the world, but these people lack basic thought processes...

Recruitment of ANYONE for these type of situations is from a pool of people with nothing happening in life. Most lack basic education, jobs, futures...recruiting these people should not be seen as EFFECTIVE....but at the same time these people cant be changed and need to be killed. Simple.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I don't believe that is actually the case. All 9/11 hijackers were college educated and more than one had an advanced degree.

These are people who just really believe in their religion. Not believe in it in a way that you are familiar with believing in a religion: "Yeah, the Bears don't play until 3:00 so I can make mass today" or "There might be pork in this Chinese dish, but don't ask, don't tell!"

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biggie's always gotta bring it back to Sox fans.

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It is a very large % of the recruits that are on the ground fighting. Those that you are talking about are totally different.

Example, they believe that about 1000 ISIS fighters are from france and most of them are what I described. These are people with empty lives that found Islam and took it to the extreme.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Pretty much every war is fought mainly by the lower classes. But in this war the factor tying all these people together is religion.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

How do you know what these people lack? From the reports I've seen some are brilliant. Most are teens or young adults. It's really not that simple at all or the numbers wouldn't be growing everyday.

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It's so much easier to fight a war against a country. It's a lot harder when you don't know if your "enemy" is sitting right next to you or if they're in your family? After 14 years of war (13 and some change in case SomeGuy is reading ) why haven't our efforts been successful. Why are their recruiting numbers continue to go up? Why are they able to recruit people from all around the world? Because this isn't an enemy that can be destroyed with weapons alone. You need your own propaganda machine to be more effective.

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Let's not forget that they are killing many more Muslims than we could ever dream of.

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