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I don't think this report is fair in some ways. You may find a similar bias in most cities and departments. Even those that are predominantly black..

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Don't you know we aren't ever supposed to offer anything less than the most glowing praise for our brave bigoted "revenuers" oops, I mean GLORIOUS FIRST RESPONDERS ?!?

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I don't think this report is fair in some ways. You may find a similar bias in most cities and departments. Even those that are predominantly black..


Nas/HOVA of two years ago would never have said this.... Changing times :shock: :lol:

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inneresting article link on that page about penis sizes. avg is 5.2 inches. alas, can't find my ruler at the moment.

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I don't think this report is fair in some ways. You may find a similar bias in most cities and departments. Even those that are predominantly black..


Nas/HOVA of two years ago would never have said this.... Changing times :shock: :lol:


I think you're reading it the wrong way. I believe that many departments are guilty of racial bias. Even departments filled with minorities. From what I can tell minority cops hate minorities just as much as others do. This report is meant to just pacify the people of Ferguson. They will say "I told you so" and we'll all forget about it. An investigation like this should be done across the country. That would really shed some light on our justice system and how they target minorities and the poor.

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leave it to nas to COMPLETELY dismiss a DOJ ruling within seconds of reading the headline. A ruling that took MONTHS to come to.

seems like the right call to me. i watched the 2nd ferguson riots live in real time, without national news censorship. there is no question those cops down there are bigots. sure, the citizens dont help their own cause much, but theyre citizens. the cops are the ones supposed to be professionals. they are the ones getting paid BY THE CITIZENS

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The Justice Department will not charge former Ferguson, Mo., police officer Darren Wilson, whose fatal shooting of a black teenager prompted waves of protests and a national reexamination of law enforcement's relationship with minority communities.

Findings of Justice's inquiry into the incident come six months after 18-year-old Michael Brown was shot by Wilson, who is white.

According to the inquiry, "several witnesses stated that Brown appeared to pose a physical threat to Wilson as he moved toward Wilson."

"According to these witnesses, who are corroborated by blood evidence in the roadway," the inquiry states, "as Brown continued to move toward Wilson, Wilson fired at Brown in what appeared to be self defense and stopped firing once Brown fell to the ground."

The findings, while largely expected, were released Wednesday along with a scathing denouncement of policing in the city. That review found evidence that racial bias was rampant in the department that had long lost the public trust of its African American residents.



Among the most serious findings in the review: In nearly 90% of cases in which Ferguson documented the use of force, those actions were used against African Americans.

The review findings drew strong reaction in Ferguson where some said the report only affirmed their own experiences in the area.

Nathan Burns, 25, who lives four blocks away from Ferguson in an unincorporated city in St. Louis County, said racial bias stretches far past Ferguson and policing. He said racism impacts the lives of blacks in schools, at jobs, and in everyday interactions.

While he's encouraged by the Justice Department's findings, the high school algebra teacher hopes the report will make people reflect on the experiences of discrimination in other aspects of black life. Burns said he has been pulled more than 20 times by officers working for various St. Louis area departments in the last eight years. At times, Burns said officers, for no reason, have searched his car and home while he and friends sat on their front porches. Burns believes that he and many of his friends who are black have been targeted because of their race.

"There's a culture that has been created," Burns said. "A lot of people want to say racism is over with and that we are past that. But, time doesn't make everything disappear. Ignoring the fact that you have cancer is not going to stop you from having cancer. And, racism is like a cancer that people have been ignoring."

Ferguson real estate company owner Marion Blocker, 26, said he gets pulled over by various police departments about three times a month while driving his 2004 black Monte Carlo. He said the government's conclusions reminded him that African Americans need to be mentally prepared to remain cool during interactions with officers.

"Our reaction is everything," he said of he and other African Americans. "We need to know our rights and know how to be able to protect ourselves even if we know this is what's against us."

Blocker has learned what constitutes an illegal search as well as how to properly communicate his feelings to police if he believes an officer isn't applying the law correctly. He hopes other African Americans do the same and teach their children.

"Racism is being taught everyday," he said. "It's so ingrained in just the human existence of who we are….I fit the description but who doesn't fit the description of being black and driving?"

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"According to these witnesses, who are corroborated by blood evidence in the roadway," the inquiry states, "as Brown continued to move toward Wilson, Wilson fired at Brown in what appeared to be self defense and stopped firing once Brown fell to the ground."


That is relatively surprising. I thought he shot him in the dome of the head from above him.


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Perhaps I can add this?

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/263553- ... narrative/

Get over it. If Holder and Obama could get this guy they would have. All the same as we have agreed all along a sad fact the man (not kid using his first name) died.

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Should I start deleting things right now? Or should I wait until I am called racist again for not deleting them? or should I wait for the vote on the issue?

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Should I start deleting things right now? Or should I wait until I am called racist again for not deleting them? or should I wait for the vote on the issue?


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Do what you want. Is the post more acceptable if I use the black man's (not boy's) first name? Does that make it not able to be discussed?

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Don't you know we aren't ever supposed to offer anything less than the most glowing praise for our brave bigoted "revenuers" oops, I mean GLORIOUS FIRST RESPONDERS ?!?

Im sure the family of this brave bigoted first responder would love to hear it .

A Fulton County police officer died Wednesday after being shot in the head by a suspect.

Police identified the fallen officer as Detective Terence Avery Green.

According to Fulton County Assistant Police Chief Gary Stiles, the shooting took place at around 1:30 a.m. in the Cedar Grove subdivision near Fairburn.

Police responded to a shots fired call early Wednesday. They were told the suspect was possibly intoxicated. Neighbors said the man was going from house to house, banging on doors and firing a long barrel gun.

The suspect, identified as Amanuel Menghesha, began shooting at the officers, striking Green in the head.

Stiles described the situation as an ambush, saying the officers "were trying to do their job, they were trying to protect this neighborhood from someone who was shooting. And they had no other option but to do their job. And the way it appears to me, they were ambushed without warning."

The officers returned fire and hit the suspect, who is being treated while in custody at Grady Memorial Hospital. His condition is unknown.

The ambulance carrying Green was given a police escort to Grady Hospital. He was pronounced dead shortly after 4:30 a.m.

Stiles said Green was a veteran officer with nearly 22 years of service. He is survived by his parents and his four sons.


"This is not the first officer that we have lost. It's heartbreaking," Stiles said.

Fulton County Police Chief Cassandra Jones echoed Stiles' statement, saying the officer was well-liked among his colleagues.

"You can never prepare for something like this," Jones added. "We're not handling it very well."

The weapon used to shoot and kill the officer has been recovered. Stiles described it as a long gun, but did not immediately known the caliber.

Stiles said police do not believe there are additional suspects in this case. Dozens of police officers continue to investigate in the neighborhood where the shooting occurred.

Fulton County Chairman John H. Eaves released a statement after learning of Green's death.

"This is a stark and sad reminder of the hard and dangerous work that our men and women in law enforcement embark upon every time they respond to a call. Oftentimes there is little indication of which calls could leave officers facing eminent danger. At this time, I ask that you pray for Detective Green's family as well for the men and women with whom he served."

Alfred Printup, who lives in the subdivision, said he was at work when the shots rang out. He was on the phone with his wife and could hear the gunshots.

"I just want to thank that police officer who gave his life to keep my family safe," Printup said.

According to the Fulton County Police Department's website, Wednesday's victim was its first officer killed in the line of duty since April 2003, and the fourth officer killed since the department was formed on July 1, 1975.

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Perhaps I can add this?

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/263553- ... narrative/

Get over it. If Holder and Obama could get this guy they would have. All the same as we have agreed all along a sad fact the man (not kid using his first name) died.

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A newer conservative website, run by insiders but with an outsider appeal, has rocketed past its better-known competitors in traffic by aiming intensely at social sharing and taking advantage of a massive and accelerating shift toward Facebook as the key source of traffic to publishers.

The Independent Journal Review — which is invisible in the heated Beltway arguments among sites from the venerable National Review and Weekly Standard to the newer Breitbart, Free Beacon, and Daily Caller — appears to have outstripped all of them in traffic with a strategy that mimics its wildly successful liberal cousin, Upworthy.

Some recent headlines mirror Upworthy’s play on the “curiousity gap” and its ideological appeal, like “This Teen Thought He Could Knockout an Innocent Victim. Then He Learned About the 2nd Amendment” (51,000 Facebook likes); and
“Judge Jeanine Takes Obama to the Woodshed for Lying in This Scathing Tongue-Lashing” (26,000 likes). Others are more straightforwardly heartwarming: “These Lovable Therapy Dogs at Walter Reed Make Life Just a Bit Better for Wounded Vets” (14,000 likes). (The existence of the “knockout game” is a matter of debate.)

It’s the kind of publishing strategy that — paired with Facebook’s recent decision to drive more traffic to publishers — has put Upworthy, according to the very roughly reliable traffic measurement service Quantcast, into the top tier of American publishers by traffic. (Quantcast generally undercounts traffic somewhat — a site’s internal traffic numbers are usually higher.) IJR’s Quantcast profile is private, but the site’s co-founder recently shared data suggesting it is ranked 205, above the Daily Caller, The Weekly Standard, and Breitbart, and trailing only Glenn Beck’s The Blaze — despite never having gotten a link from the key source of conservative traffic, the Drudge Report.

And while the site is unknown among the Washington, D.C., conservatives who dominate the movement media, it is a Beltway product, owned by a company founded by two well-connected Republican political consultants, former Tim Pawlenty adviser Phil Musser and Alex Skatell, a former staffer for the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

Like Upworthy, the site is focused on framing, not reporting.

“We don’t have a traditional masthead model,” said Musser, a co-founder of Media Group of America. “We’re looking for relevant, timely, and quality content to serve our audience.”

MGA’s other operation is IMGE, a digital media consultancy that does work on behalf of corporate and political clients, including Republican Sen. Tim Scott and the Liberal Party of Australia.

IJReview.com is operated by Editor-in-Chief Bert Atkinson and a team of fewer than 10, who operate independently from the consulting business, according to Skatell. The site, which relies on pre-roll advertisements on automatically playing videos and large display ads, is “solidly profitable,” he said.

While the site has begun to, in Musser’s words, “seep into the edges of the conservative ecosystem as a place for news,” pulling down Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin radio hits and the replay of a well-trafficked video on Sean Hannity’s, the source is social.

Helping power the site’s numbers: an email list of almost one million, and the Facebook page Conservative Daily. That page stands at 3.2 million likes. (The founders declined to discuss in detail their growth strategy, but said they had paid to advertise on Facebook.) Three huge buttons for Facebook, Twitter, and email scroll with visitors.

Reading the site’s coverage, one other thing is also absent: Much of an apparent editorial stake in the intraparty struggles over issues like immigration or national security that properties like Breitbart, RedState, and The Weekly Standard engage in. IJReview.com is just conservative news, political or cultural, distilled down and reframed.

The result is an audience largely outside of D.C., and broader in its interests than average consumers of political news.
“We’re presenting stories for every American to see in a way they’re more likely to click and share,” Skatell said. “This helps because people who don’t care as much about politics can still stay informed through engaged friends.”

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Do what you want. Is the post more acceptable if I use the black man's (not boy's) first name? Does that make it not able to be discussed?

Waiting for the select few to chime in ....

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Oh yeah I am getting it now. I stepped out of the narrative.

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Oh yeah I am getting it now. I stepped out of the narrative.

Nope, you've stayed inside your narrative completely.

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Oh yeah I am getting it now. I stepped out of the narrative.

Nope, you've stayed inside your narrative completely.


You are full of shit. I have never made any clear statement on this. My angle is that DOJ is full of shit trying to find shit and can't. Same as Rodney King. It is a horrible event in our history but you can't try to form facts to make all these cases. It was a bad deal and killing what the fuck else you want?

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Oh yeah I am getting it now. I stepped out of the narrative.

Nope, you've stayed inside your narrative completely.


You are full of shit. I have never made any clear statement on this. My angle is that DOJ is full of shit trying to find shit and can't. Same as Rodney King. It is a horrible event in our history but you can't try to form facts to make all these cases. It was a bad deal and killing what the fuck else you want?

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This is why some of the guys posted today about Nas and his posts and Douche doing the same. Trying to inflect racism into innocuous comments about facts.

Fact: Black man died. (and I feel it is a tragedy)

Fact: Cop institution finds nothing wrong. (I have no idea)

Fact: DOJ starts a second investigation. (Only because he is black)

Fact: DOJ announces yes police organizations have issues but this one is clear. (Ignore that)

Blame Pittmike.

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PittMike is on tilt!! Thank goodness we found out that this was only investigated because the victim was black.

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PittMike is on tilt!! Thank goodness we found out that this was only investigated because the victim was black.



That is what you took from that? Not that it blows a cop killed a guy and it shouldn't have happened?

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PittMike is on tilt!! Thank goodness we found out that this was only investigated because the victim was black.



That is what you took from that? Not that it blows a cop killed a guy and it shouldn't have happened?

You literally said:

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PittMike is on tilt!! Thank goodness we found out that this was only investigated because the victim was black.



That is what you took from that? Not that it blows a cop killed a guy and it shouldn't have happened?


People see what they want to see.


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PittMike is on tilt!! Thank goodness we found out that this was only investigated because the victim was black.



That is what you took from that? Not that it blows a cop killed a guy and it shouldn't have happened?


People see what they want to see.

I saw his exact words. So did you.

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Question: Does the DOJ start an investigation if it is some white meth head unarmed in Alabama rather than this case that is killed by a cop (and NAS doesn't make a thing using his first name like it is his cousin)?


Answer: Insert Douchebag's Bullshit here.

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