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Don Tiny

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:56 am

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Who gives a fuck what Dan Bernstein says, writes or thinks?????

:roll:

Generally the folks who take the time to mention that type of sentiment give the most fucks per capita.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:57 am

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Now we give them Cutler.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:58 am

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RFDC wrote:

So how long before people are being critical of Pace for this move?

About 10 seconds from now.

I think him and Fox realize they need to build this team pretty much from scratch. Given the lack of talent on the roster, the WRs in this draft, and the brutal schedule the Bears have next year I do not see them winning more than 6 games.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:04 pm

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That'll take us to sixteen missed postseasons in twenty years. Bear Down, Chicago Bears, doo-doo-doo doooo doot-doo-doooo dooo doot-doo-dooooo...

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

RFDC wrote:

So how long before people are being critical of Pace for this move?

It's a always a good day when you can unload your best player at any position (arguably, when healthy) for a 5th round draft pick because you don't like his personality. Is this guy an NFL GM or rush chair for the Tri-Delts? This is bigger than spring formal.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:05 pm

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RFDC wrote:

So how long before people are being critical of Pace for this move?

This will expose Jeffery. Dude's a lazy Robin. Should be able to sign him cheaper now.

Last edited by Kirkwood on Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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SteveSarley

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:06 pm

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We gave up a guy who was probably the best wide receiver this team has ever had for a 5th round pick?
Who is going to fill the position? Marquez Wilson?
Doesn't Marshall still cost us 5 million against the cap too?
Seems like we just traded 5 million dollars for a 5th round pick and still are short a starting wideout.
Go figure!

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:06 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

RFDC wrote:

So how long before people are being critical of Pace for this move?

This will expose Jeffery. Dude's a lazy Robin.

Then fuggit, trade Jeffery.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:10 pm

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DannyB wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

RFDC wrote:

So how long before people are being critical of Pace for this move?

This is his 4th team in his career, and he has yet to play a postseason game. Its very clear that he is good, but there are other issues that have kept his teams from being successful.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:12 pm

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Admittedly, the most talented WR in team history. I think his mental situation makes him a short shelf-life at any team. Sad, but I can't help but think this was addition by subtraction regardless of his talent level.

Besides...not going to the playoffs anyway, so blow it up.

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Marshall a J E T S

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:14 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

DannyB wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

RFDC wrote:

So how long before people are being critical of Pace for this move?

This is his 4th team in his career, and he has yet to play a postseason game. Its very clear that he is good, but there are other issues that have kept his teams from being successful.

Jay Cutler

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Brick

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:15 pm

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SteveSarley wrote:

What is your favorite Brandon Marshall season?

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Tall Midget

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:17 pm

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This move is largely meaningless unless the Bears unload Cutler in the next week or so.

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Don Tiny

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:26 pm

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wdelaney72 wrote:

Admittedly, the most talented WR in team history.

True, but it carries with it the same kind of hollowness that comes with a politician running unopposed.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:32 pm

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The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:32 pm

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Scorehead wrote:

The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

When is the last time a veteran was traded for a high pick?

Patriots got Moss for a 4th

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:39 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

When is the last time a veteran was traded for a high pick?

Patriots got Moss for a 4th

The Bears used a 3rd to get Marshall.

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:40 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

This move is largely meaningless unless the Bears unload Cutler in the next week or so.

And if someone will take Marshall, it makes it more likely that someone will take a flyer on Jay.

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Don Tiny

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:46 pm

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Scorehead wrote:

The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

Correct .... that Marhsall is a big enough pariah on and off the field that his value is steadily approaching nil.

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It would be funny if even the Jets didn't want Cutler.

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Tall Midget wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

When is the last time a veteran was traded for a high pick?

Patriots got Moss for a 4th

The Bears used a 3rd to get Marshall.

They used two 3rd round picks but remember that these kinds of trades are all about age.
That trade was done three years ago.

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Tall Midget wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

When is the last time a veteran was traded for a high pick?

Patriots got Moss for a 4th

The Bears used a 3rd to get Marshall.

Two 3rds and assumed his $9M salary

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SteveSarley

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

When is the last time a veteran was traded for a high pick?

Patriots got Moss for a 4th

That was in 2007 and Moss was only 30.
A Pats 4th round pick is really almost like someone else's 5th round pick anyway.

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Seriously, has anyone checked on Dave.

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Dave's not here.

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Don Tiny

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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:56 pm

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SteveSarley wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

The fact that all the Bears could get for Marshall was a 5th round draft pick proves what the rest of the NFL teams think of him.

When is the last time a veteran was traded for a high pick?

Patriots got Moss for a 4th

The Bears used a 3rd to get Marshall.

They used two 3rd round picks but remember that these kinds of trades are all about age.
That trade was done three years ago.

Nothing ages better than a bottle of '52 Bollinger except for NFL Wide Receivers, especially the looney-tunes ones.

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Hussra wrote:

Dave's not here.

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Tall Midget wrote:

This move is largely meaningless unless the Bears unload Cutler in the next week or so.

I don't thin they can get anything for him. I'd bet most teams believe we will cut him. It was so stupid not franchising last year.

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Spaulding wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

This move is largely meaningless unless the Bears unload Cutler in the next week or so.

I don't thin they can get anything for him. I'd bet most teams believe we will cut him. It was so stupid not franchising last year.

A big part of the reason the person who made that decision is looking for employment

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Spaulding wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

This move is largely meaningless unless the Bears unload Cutler in the next week or so.

I don't thin they can get anything for him. I'd bet most teams believe we will cut him. It was so stupid not franchising last year.

From a salary cap perspective, it is better to cut him than it is to trade him.

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