He did for me.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200310030.shtml

Kerry Wood was maybe the greatest pitcher in major league history. Obviously we'll never know but he had a 12.5 K/9 in the heart of the steroid era as a teenager. I mean, the stats dont really matter with him that much because you can watch and just know.

Prior never got your imagination going the way Wood did.

*I know he wasn't a teenager

No. Roger Park Bryan is right. Prior was the better one. If they both stayed healthy, Prior was going to have the much better career.

Both Prior and Woods are looked at as disappointments by me albeit for different reasons .

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Your imagination must be a lot different than mine.

I was projecting Prior every time he threw a pitch.

The way he pitched was awesome. Pedro meets Maddux.

96 outside on the black
70 mph curve into a teacup
95MPH at your eyes

Goodnight

Im less disappointed in Wood because you could see he was going to have problems after seeing him throw once.

Prior was better, yeah. But Kerry Wood was really good. And Kerry Wood was the 'veteran Cubs starter' on those teams. Zambrano was new, Clement was a free agent. Estes sucked in 2003, but Maddux was good in 2004.

Wood and Prior were 1-2 though at the top of the rotation. That is all I meant by anchoring it.

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I agree with America. Prior was more polished, the better "pitcher", but Wood was a special thing.

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You can't really tell me how I should feel about Mark Prior. I'm the Cubs fan.

Prior's career was disappointing in that I wish it lasted longer. His skill was not disappointing to watch, and he was the best pitcher on the most successful Cubs team I have ever seen in my life. He is certainly not an all-time Cubs hero, but no Cubs fan is mad that Mark Prior pitched for the Cubs. We remember the good years he had, and recognize that we wish he would have had many more.

There is absolutely no "wanting to forget."

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My comment was not directed at you really. Prior and Wood are forever linked and Ive never really liked it.


Id had my fill of Kerry Wood's bullshit by the time Prior showed up. I thought Prior was the anti Wood. Good mechanics, smart, unemotional, not a redneck, etc

You're right, but I feel pretty confident in saying you're an anomaly as a Cub fan whose primary memories of the Mark Prior Era are fond ones.

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Unemotional? His biggest moment was a meltdown on the mound over a ball in the stands his mediocre left fielder was never going to catch.

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Ill bet when you discuss it at length, most fans would come around to remembering it fondly.

The first reaction is "Oh, fuck that guy"

If the Cubs had won the World Series in 2003 or 2004 and Prior had the same career arc, then he would have been the guy who gave it his all on a bad shoulder (genetic looseness!) and burned himself out to give us a championship. They didn't, so he was just a jerk who was always hurt.

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Interestingly enough, I couldnt foresee that when he was drafted. (which is what my post is referring to)

And even considering the game 6 thing, he's still not as close to as emotional as Wood. I think I saw Wood scream in ump's faces like 5 different times in person

What is your favorite memory from Mark Prior's 2004 season, when he pitched 118 innings, won 6 games and posted an ERA of 4.02?

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That's what I said. I hope your fellow Cub fan IMU is paying attention.

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The comeback game where he was perfect for 5 innings.

The 16 strikeout-9ip game against the Reds in the last week when he was trying to stop the choke but couldnt.

I think he had his first game of the year right around when I graduated from high school, so it was like yay, it's summer and Mark Prior is back! This is gonna be a year to remember!

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I left work early that day.

It was May. Against the Pirates I believe. Dusty gave him an uncomfortably long hug in the dugout after he came out.


That was the year of Tribune's Prior watch

Yeah they're linked in the sense of WHY ARE YOU IDIOTS PANICKING, THEY HAVE PRIOR AND WOOD FOR GAME 6 AND 7

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Even before that, but that added on to it a ton.


No real Cub fan felt safe

I was at Game 7 with my buddy. We're both Sox fans. I'm pretty sure we were the only ones in the park that didn't care if they won or lost. But man, walking out of that place was something. The looks on people's faces. I'll never forget that.

By the way, when Wood hit that HR, loudest I've ever heard a crowd at a baseball game. That place was shaking.

Was that the genesis of your bernstein hatred?

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The first day that Bryant can come up so the Cubs can gain the extra day of control is 4/18. That would be the 11th game of the season, Rain outs do not matter because the clock is based on the last day of the MLB season. Sunday Oct. 4th. The Cubs season clock starts on 4/5.

Theo/Jed seem to bring guys up ion the road and the 4/18 is a home game against San Diego. They may wait until 4/20 at Pittsburgh the 13th game and I am sure PITTMIKE will be there to give us his scouting report.

Super two is for the first 22% of players called up and who continue to accrue service time (be on the 25 man roster or DL). during the 2015 season.

The Sox could call up Rodon as a fifth starter on the day he is needed and then send him down and will have just one day of service time. The Sox. So his 6+ year clock would start when ever he is called up during 2015. The only risk is if he gets hurt during that game and has to go on the DL all those days would count.

If you wait long enough into 2015 you just put off arbtration until the thrid season instead of the second (super two) year..

There are a few more subtlties to it but this is the easiest way to look at it.

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Can we just fucking stop with this rehash please. It's starting to hurt again.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Prior gets a bad rap for game 6. So does Bartman. The biggest culprits that night were Alex Gonzales and Dusty Baker. 1A and 1B, take your pick.

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See IMU, you're making badrogue17 sick.

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Is there a way baseball teams could do a version of Blackhawks' Rockford Shuffle where a pitcher is only up for his start and then he gets optioned back down while some Quadruple-A scrub occupies a spot on the bench for the other days? Would the union stop this? Is a Really Smrt Team already doing this?

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Not in line with what you're saying. He is sick from the memory of not winning the World Series. Or even making it to it.

He isn't sick about Mark Prior.

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