Yes, if Arrieta goes 32-0 (likely with 32 complete game shut outs), your math checks out.

I really, really, really think Arrieta has good stuff. Not sure if he can win out.

I like your optimism though.

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He's not trolling, he's totally serious. That's why this is so bizarre.

You're saying that you think Arrieta is the next Cy Young or Nolan Ryan?
I can't believe that you Cubs fans think Arrieta is the next Young.
Your optimism is ridiculous.

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This just dawned on me.
I cannot believe the similarities between Dan Bernstein and JORR.
They both have a working knowledge of sports but try to make it seem like they are total experts.
They both dig their heels in when they give their opinion and never back down, no matter how good the argument against it is.
They both seem to try to create controversy by spewing fallacious facts and theories just to be argumentative.
They display unshakable arrogance and truly think they are smarter or better than everyone else.
Hell, JORR could actually be Dan Bernstein for all I know.

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yep. be interesting to see which side should've made a deal last month.

if the Phillies should've shot for less, [ Baez ]; or if the Cubs should've dumped Russell before he gets exposed in AAA/MLB [j/k].

Figure if it's a July deadline deal, Phillies would want to see Russell up in the majors for a few weeks before taking him in a trade.

People are saying Hamels to the Rangers, but the Rangers were already projected to be last in the AL West before Darvish's injury.
So why go all in on Hamels when you're likely going to waste this season anyhow.

Of course not every Cubs fan thinks that, just 99 out of 100
Don't you think Beane would have acquired Arrieta if he was any good?

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It's just crazy that you think he's the next Cy Young. I can't get over it.

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Wait a minute. Most of you are constantly pimping for Ricketts to get more revenue streams to help the Cubs win, but suddenly the budget doesn't matter. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? I guess not.

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Classic JORR.

Who said that "budget doesn't matter"?

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I literally fell out of my chair. Arietta comes out of nowhere last year and now he will be Seaver, Carlton, Ryan and Young combined.

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Who is "pimping for Ricketts"?

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Your sarcasm thingy........it may be in need of repair

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Abreu isn't setting the world on fire this spring, yet you have brought that up in at least 3 or 4 different threads, IMU.

The Cubs could absolutely pull the trigger on this and send Addison Jeter to the Phils. They already have one of the better shortstops (at least with the bat) in the NL. Do you really think Addison Jeter is going to show up on the Northside and put up numbers equal to Castro's first few years? I'll step out onto a 36" diameter limb and say "no" he won't.

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You certainly attempted to minimize its effect:

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JORR, you constantly suggesting people are saying things they aren't saying is beyond annoying at this point.

All true. Nice Steve.

No. That is not what I was saying.

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This

If any pitcher gets 32 starts in by the July 31 trade deadline....

there's a stat abbreviated "Wtm" "team wins in games started".

works like this, an NL pitcher went 13-2 by the trade deadline last season...but his team actually won 14 games he started....that extra win is "Wtm". Even tho the starting pitcher doesn't get credit for it, the team still does.

works the same for .500 starting pitchers as it does for aces. if your gaggle of #4's goes .500...there's a good chance their team has won more of the games they started than their credited with W's for. [depending on bullpen performance and late game offense and WINT etc]

so, yeah, if Lester's as advertised, and he gets the NL bump a pitcher jumping AL to NL normally gets. the rest of the Cubs staff can post a .500 win percentage and the Cubs still be at or near or even above .500 by the trade deadline.[again, depending on bullpen performance and late game offense and WINT and a host of other factors]. Chances are the team lost as many or possibly even more of the games the .500 arms started, but the cushion the ace gives you can cover those extra losses and still have a team at or just below .500 and in the hunt for one of those extra WC spots.

And with the expanded Wild Card, it's possible Ricketts would green light a trade for a proven arm (like a Hamels) for the stretch run to take the spot of an Edwin Jackson or whatever pitcher becomes odd-man out by then.

Then don't read my fuckin' posts. What the fuck is the purpose of posting the following within this conversation:



If not to minimize the effect a large budget has on winning?

Don't be a disingenuous douchebag.

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Well, you need to do a better job of expressing yourself. What is the point of that post in this conversation?

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I will rephrase what I think Darko was saying:

Low budget teams can win championships.




I hope this helps your understanding of this.

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Don't be obtuse dude. You're not dumb, don't act like you are.
Obviously, you cannot buy championships. We all know this.
Also, being a low budget team doesn't prevent championships. We all know this.

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Do you understand how conversation actually work? His post was a response to this:



Although I suppose he will now insist it wasn't and instead it was simply a thought that popped into his head that he decided to type in this thread.

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You're the guy being a dumbass. And you're especially dumb if you actually believe there isn't a direct correlation between payroll and wins.

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So there's no way that a bottom 10% payroll team could win a World Series then?

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Who is actually saying people said things they never said?

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Where are you, spanky, to explain to Darkside that I never actually said that?

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I didn't say you said it, I was asking you. Thus, the question mark at the end.

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You've gone insane over this Cubs stuff
I fear it may actually be bad for your health

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