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My daughter got her general studies completed @ UIC, transferred to Valpo for her Bachelors and is now @ DePaul for her Masters of Science in Marketing.

Four major moves in five years. Not sure if the colleges or U Haul have more of my money?!? :lol:

Seriously, we are very proud of her and she has an amazing future ahead. Money well spent.

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I'm going to drop my kids off and hit the college bars. Maybe a tailgate or 2 if it's a game day. One thing about those college guys. I get older, they stay the same age.


alright...alright...alright...

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Cant wait to simultaneously send off a check to rogue jrs college while depositing my social security check. #shouldastartedsooner

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I'm going to drop my kids off and hit the college bars. Maybe a tailgate or 2 if it's a game day. One thing about those college guys. I get older, they stay the same age.


Nice, Spaulding!

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This fall starts the graduate school tuition payments for me. Couple more years and all three will be in College at the same time. If my wife is lucky enough, she'll be the rich, happy widow sending checks from the beach...


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Tuition rates are scary. I mean if I save 100k by the time my daughter is 18, that might mostly cover ISU


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Tuition rates are scary. I mean if I save 100k by the time my daughter is 18, that might mostly cover ISU


I saw those grades, maybe you better start saving for the Ivy League.

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Tuition rates are scary. I mean if I save 100k by the time my daughter is 18, that might mostly cover ISU


I saw those grades, maybe you better start saving for the Ivy League.

Haha ....already selling her on caddying just for the scholarship


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Spaulding wrote:
I'm going to drop my kids off and hit the college bars. Maybe a tailgate or 2 if it's a game day. One thing about those college guys. I get older, they stay the same age.


alright...alright...alright...

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University of Missouri. (Thankfully I'm an SEC fan to begin with :lol: )

He's going to try and walk on. He has one friend on the team there now, two other JRW teammates have committed and will be there in 2016. He's finally started to grow/fill out and has started having real fun again now that physically he's catching up (somewhat) to other guys his age. It's funny because about two months ago he didn't think he even had a shot and was looking elsewhere.

And then he saw some of the pitchers on the SEC network with fastballs only sitting 86-88 consistently and discovered that my attempts at convincing him weren't THAT far off. And discovered his fastball has substantially picked in velo & he's gotten better control.

Plus he can spin the hell out of a curveball and that plays at every level. You're going to have to let me know when that MC game gets rescheduled.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Tuition rates are scary. I mean if I save 100k by the time my daughter is 18, that might mostly cover ISU


I saw those grades, maybe you better start saving for the Ivy League.


Large endowments at many Ivy League schools.

A good friend of mine dropped $40 K at Dartmouth. For four full years.

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I can't imagine what it must be like to send your own child that you raised off to school.


Me either. All I've sent is money so far. But, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and wondering how other guys around here did it with their sons.

I'd be a wreck sending a daughter.


One of my best friends has 2 daughters. He was a pig in college. Fucked anything he could. Really had a scorecard, he went to the bottom of the barrel, if it moved, he banged it.

Now he justs dreads the thought of his girls going to college. One girl in 13 and one is 11. Now, if I go out wth him for a few beers or after a Cubs game and he says 21 year old girls drunk trying to walk home, his life flashes before his eyes. I have seen him now help girls get a cab and give the guy $20 to take her home. While it is nice, it is so damn funny seeing him trying to fight the Karma ghost that follows him around.

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Sent off the first college payment for my oldest son about an hour ago.

I don't know if I expected any particular feeling, but boy did I get one. I figured it'd be odd dropping him off in August, but the reality of it hit like a ton of bricks today. Not a bad thing, but an odd/old(?) milestone nevertheless. Bracing even.

For the last 45 mins or so all I've been thinking about is a summer trip to Mizzou for new student orientation (now I have an excuse to go to KC & eat BBQ for a couple of days, so there's that :lol: ). Or how much cash I need to send him on a weekly basis to keep away the hunger pangs I still vividly remember during my early college days. Or talking with him about how easy he should take it in his first semester of courses. Or maybe how he should take advantage of Rahm's free JC tuition to sit in on some scheduled 1st semester classes to get a leg up.

Or not.

Maybe knowing that today was the day some University was going to be allowed into my pocket was the reason I shaved off my (generally gray/white) beard. I'm not THAT old dammit!!

Or maybe I am. :scratch:


Congrats & condolences! You wont believe some of the crap you will see on the bursar statement. Its unreal. Mrs. Scorehead & I have been paying college tuition to a few fine Illinois institutions for our 3 kids for about 10 years. We will make our last bank transfer next Month as my youngest graduates in May. We told our kids that shortly after we return from the grad ceremony & dinner, my Wife & I are taking a long trip somewhere warm. Hopefully your Son is studying something that he loves. I always told my kids that if you do what you love, you will never work a day in your life. Don't just choose a degree based on earning potential...choose a degree based on what you are really interested in.
Good luck to your Son & you & your Wife!

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Glad your son is in a good state, RR. :D


I second that

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I can't imagine what it must be like to send your own child that you raised off to school.


Me either. All I've sent is money so far. But, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and wondering how other guys around here did it with their sons.

I'd be a wreck sending a daughter.


17 year old girl is driving us all crazy. I look forward to her going! :wink:

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My son created a time line of his life for school with pictures attached. That really made me stop for a while.

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I can't imagine what it must be like to send your own child that you raised off to school.


Me either. All I've sent is money so far. But, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and wondering how other guys around here did it with their sons.

I'd be a wreck sending a daughter.


17 year old girl is driving us all crazy. I look forward to her going! :wink:

Oh the joys of kids, enjoy T-bone. :D

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Just make sure he learns the one lesson I learned the hard way when visiting friends at Mizzou one weekend back in 1989.....just cause a fake ID works at the bars doesn't mean its going to work at a liquor store.


But, on a related note, the booking procedure at Columbia police headquarters is so fast and seamless that its very possible to make it back to the bars well before closing time.

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Just make sure he learns the one lesson I learned the hard way when visiting friends at Mizzou one weekend back in 1989.....just cause a fake ID works at the bars doesn't mean its going to work at a liquor store.


But, on a related note, the booking procedure at Columbia police headquarters is so fast and seamless that its very possible to make it back to the bars well before closing time.

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I don't remember anybody getting arrested in college for a fake ID. They get taken away, sure, get kicked out, but not arrested just for that.
We need the rest of the story.


BTW, RR, I'm sure this will not happen to your kid.

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From today's WSJ opinion section. Bolded part was interesting to me.




Education Does Reduce Inequality
By Dan Greenstein and Jamie Merisotis
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In recent months some of the leading economic minds in the country have declared that when it comes to explaining rising inequality, education doesn't matter. Larry Summers, former Treasury secretary and former president of Harvard, said at the National Press Club in February that it's an "evasion" to suggest education and training as a solution to inequality.

"The core problem is that there aren't enough jobs," Mr. Summers said. "If you help some people, you could help them get the jobs, but then someone else won't get the jobs." Paul Krugman, the New York Times columnist, piled on a few days later: "Rising inequality isn't about who has the knowledge; it's about who has the power."

We could use stronger rhetoric, but let's say it this way: nonsense. Education remains the chief American institution that promotes economic and social mobility for poor and disadvantaged citizens. It's not an evasion; it's the direct answer to the question of what the nation needs to improve its talent pool and improve economic opportunity and social equality.

Harvard economists Claudia Goldin and Lawrence Katz find that the growing difference in the earnings of college graduates and high-school graduates explains between 60% and 70% of the rise in wage inequality between 1980 and 2005.

MIT economist David Autor has an instructive thought experiment: The increase in wages for the top 1% between 1980 and 2005, if divided among the bottom 99%, would provide each household about $7,000 in additional income. But the wage gains of college graduates over the same period, divided among high-school graduates, would provide each household with $28,000 of additional income.

The premium attached to a college education -- the difference in wages between those with degrees and those with high-school diplomas -- increased even as the market was flooded with university graduates. In 1980 only 16 million Americans, or 21% of those in their prime working years (ages 23 to 54), held a bachelor's degree or higher; by 2013, that figure was 38 million, or 37%. When supply increases, economists expect the price to fall. But instead the college-wage premium grew from 33% to 62% between 1980 and 2013. For millions of Americans, especially the children of poor and minority families, getting more education is the best advice. Schooling is the best pathway to a sustaining career and wage.

The idea that education is the bridge to economic opportunity and social mobility is gospel in American public discourse for a reason. It balances our values of equal opportunity and individual responsibility. The answer is not in dismissing education, but making it more equitable. American education has become complicit in the intergenerational reproduction of racial and class privilege. Higher education mimics and magnifies the racial and class inequalities it inherits from the K-12 system and projects those inequalities into the labor market.

Critics are right that a college degree or certificate is not enough to solve all economic problems or create a fair and just social contract. But education is the clearest and best way to develop talent and build the skills so important to our country's economic and social well-being. Naysayers go too far when they threaten the only common ground that remains in the American political dialogue. Attacking education in an attempt to provide legitimacy to more controversial reforms will only divide us further.

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Mr. Greenstein leads work on postsecondary education at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Mr. Merisotis is president of Lumina Foundation.

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geezus, i was never even talked to about going to college. my parents were terrified that i would want to. they didnt want to spend a dollar on it for any of us kids. if i wanted to go to college i would have had to go into 50k in debt and find a way to pay my expenses (work) while going to school. FUCK THAT. im not stupid.

now my resume has no 4 year degree on it, but it does have 15 years of real experience and im only 32. any major corporation that wont look at me because i dont have a 4 year degree, i tell them that is fine, there are plenty of college grads that cant produce anything that would love to work here.

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I can't imagine what it must be like to send your own child that you raised off to school.


Me either. All I've sent is money so far. But, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and wondering how other guys around here did it with their sons.

I'd be a wreck sending a daughter.


One of my best friends has 2 daughters. He was a pig in college. Fucked anything he could. Really had a scorecard, he went to the bottom of the barrel, if it moved, he banged it.

Now he justs dreads the thought of his girls going to college. One girl in 13 and one is 11. Now, if I go out wth him for a few beers or after a Cubs game and he says 21 year old girls drunk trying to walk home, his life flashes before his eyes. I have seen him now help girls get a cab and give the guy $20 to take her home. While it is nice, it is so damn funny seeing him trying to fight the Karma ghost that follows him around.


nothing he can really do at this point. by 11 and 13 with girls, youre done training them. theyre not going to listen to you anymore. if you are worried about their decisions you should have made sure the right ones are in their head years ago.

with boys its a little different. you can threaten them with violence up until about 18 or so. but after that you can expect to not know them for the next 10 years or so...

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Ike, well your avatar is interesting and somewhat ironic given your concerns over employability.

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Just make sure he learns the one lesson I learned the hard way when visiting friends at Mizzou one weekend back in 1989.....just cause a fake ID works at the bars doesn't mean its going to work at a liquor store.


But, on a related note, the booking procedure at Columbia police headquarters is so fast and seamless that its very possible to make it back to the bars well before closing time.

:lol:
I don't remember anybody getting arrested in college for a fake ID. They get taken away, sure, get kicked out, but not arrested just for that.
We need the rest of the story.


BTW, RR, I'm sure this will not happen to your kid.


sorry, forgot about this thread till today.

Freshman year when I was at Oklahoma I went to Mizzou for a weekend to visit a couple friends at their frat house. They hooked me up with an ID from a brother of theirs. Only problem was the guy in the ID was 6'4 with blond hair. They said no problem, it will still work at the bars. And it did. The next day my one friend was staying at the house to help work on some stupid float for some parade. Me and another friend decided to steal his car and go drinking. After a couple hours of that we decided we should bring our friend a gift for stealing his car so we went to the liquor store and I tried to buy a bottle of something. The people took one look at the ID and were like aer you kidding me and called the cops. Got arrested, but was back on the streets in an hour.

Arrest cost me $100 and now I can say I've been arrested in 3 states bordering the Mississippi River. I'm like an old school River man, traveling up and down the Mississip stirring up trouble and getting arrested. I'm Mark Twain without the wit.

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nothing he can really do at this point. by 11 and 13 with girls, youre done training them. theyre not going to listen to you anymore. if you are worried about their decisions you should have made sure the right ones are in their head years ago.

with boys its a little different. you can threaten them with violence up until about 18 or so. but after that you can expect to not know them for the next 10 years or so...



That's not true, and some of it is just sad.


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nothing he can really do at this point. by 11 and 13 with girls, youre done training them. theyre not going to listen to you anymore. if you are worried about their decisions you should have made sure the right ones are in their head years ago.

with boys its a little different. you can threaten them with violence up until about 18 or so. but after that you can expect to not know them for the next 10 years or so...



That's not true, and some of it is just sad.


what parts? the beating your kid or giving up on your daughter at 11?

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nothing he can really do at this point. by 11 and 13 with girls, youre done training them. theyre not going to listen to you anymore. if you are worried about their decisions you should have made sure the right ones are in their head years ago.

with boys its a little different. you can threaten them with violence up until about 18 or so. but after that you can expect to not know them for the next 10 years or so...



That's not true, and some of it is just sad.


what parts? the beating your kid or giving up on your daughter at 11?


You dont really have kids, do you?

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