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So you have a problem with a private caterer that doesn't want to provide services to something they disagree with on religious grounds?

Yes.

The same way I would have a problem with them refusing service based on race or height or hair color due to their "religious beliefs"



So they have to follow "your" beliefs.

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So you have a problem with a private caterer that doesn't want to provide services to something they disagree with on religious grounds?


I'm a 5x divorcé who left my last wife for my pregnant mistress who was my neighbor's wife. Bake us a cake?"

"Gay?"

"Nope"

"Would love to!"


You don't know what the law says either. Do you?


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DO YOU @!


We already knew the answer was no.

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So you have a problem with a private caterer that doesn't want to provide services to something they disagree with on religious grounds?

Yes.

The same way I would have a problem with them refusing service based on race or height or hair color due to their "religious beliefs"



So they have to follow "your" beliefs.


yea, that wacky belief that all people should be treated the same. Madness !!


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So you have a problem with a private caterer that doesn't want to provide services to something they disagree with on religious grounds?

Yes.

The same way I would have a problem with them refusing service based on race or height or hair color due to their "religious beliefs"



So they have to follow "your" beliefs.

Why should one person's belief trump some other person's belief?

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Seacrest wrote:
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So you have a problem with a private caterer that doesn't want to provide services to something they disagree with on religious grounds?

Yes.

The same way I would have a problem with them refusing service based on race or height or hair color due to their "religious beliefs"



So they have to follow "your" beliefs.


If a person's "belief" is that they cannot serve someone because of the very "fabric" of who they are, then that person is a piece of shit.


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Seacrest wrote:
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So you have a problem with a private caterer that doesn't want to provide services to something they disagree with on religious grounds?

Yes.

The same way I would have a problem with them refusing service based on race or height or hair color due to their "religious beliefs"



So they have to follow "your" beliefs.

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Why should one person's belief trump some other person's belief?


Because we can all agree that in some instances, that certain beliefs are better than others.

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BTW, this law is a fucking embarrassment and I might actually stop spending money in Indiana


Btw, if you live in IL, then you live in a state that already has a law like this.

Are you close to WI for your shopping needs?

Illiniois has Civil Unions which changes the whole application of the law and its not nearly as embarrassing, so Im good.


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Because we can all agree that in some instances, that certain beliefs are better than others.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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BTW, this law is a fucking embarrassment and I might actually stop spending money in Indiana


Btw, if you live in IL, then you live in a state that already has a law like this.

Are you close to WI for your shopping needs?

Illiniois has Civil Unions which changes the whole application of the law and its not nearly as embarrassing, so Im good.


It doesn't change the application of the law for the quote you used for supporting it.

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Because we can all agree that in some instances, that certain beliefs are better than others.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



You disagree with that statement?

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Because we can all agree that in some instances, that certain beliefs are better than others.


Who originally said that...Hitler?


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You don't have the right to openly discriminate as a business. Why is this a debate?

It's only an issue if someone says "I won't work for you because you are gay". That is the only thing being defended here. The ability to tell a potential customer "Your way of life is wrong and I won't work with you".

So, choose which side you are on with that.

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I'm sorry your parents didn't pay enough attention to you, when you were a child.


Are you a stay at home dad?


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Smarmystein and Hockey Gay should move to Indiana. Something tells me they would love it.

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Democrats and Republicans in power belong to the same country clubs and are both beholden to lobbyists.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
You don't have the right to openly discriminate as a business. Why is this a debate?

It's only an issue if someone says "I won't work for you because you are gay". That is the only thing being defended here. The ability to tell a potential customer "Your way of life is wrong and I won't work with you".

So, choose which side you are on with that.



I turn down more clients than I take.

And in my line of work, I do and have worked with and for gay people.

If a person is a caterer and has an issue with a gay wedding, they are protected by both state and federal law where most of us live. A fact that I'm sure was unknown to most who posted in this thread.

I understand and respect the herd mentality in cases of vaccines.

The herd mentality in thought is another issue.

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Democrats and Republicans in power belong to the same country clubs and are both beholden to lobbyists.

Fuck 'em.

Not in Indiana.

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Seacrest wrote:
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You don't have the right to openly discriminate as a business. Why is this a debate?

It's only an issue if someone says "I won't work for you because you are gay". That is the only thing being defended here. The ability to tell a potential customer "Your way of life is wrong and I won't work with you".

So, choose which side you are on with that.



I turn down more clients than I take.

And in my line of work, I do and have worked with and for gay people.

If a person is a caterer and has an issue with a gay wedding, they are protected by both state and federal law where most of us live. A fact that I'm sure was unknown to most who posted in this thread.

I understand and respect the herd mentality in cases of vaccines.

The herd mentality in thought is another issue.


oh god, the ole "But, But, I have a black friend" argument.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Because we can all agree that in some instances, that certain beliefs are better than others.


Who originally said that...Hitler?


Odd that you would use that example.

I think it was originally a thought posited by the Jews.

And they have been paying for it ever since.

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Caller Bob wrote:
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You don't have the right to openly discriminate as a business. Why is this a debate?

It's only an issue if someone says "I won't work for you because you are gay". That is the only thing being defended here. The ability to tell a potential customer "Your way of life is wrong and I won't work with you".

So, choose which side you are on with that.



I turn down more clients than I take.

And in my line of work, I do and have worked with and for gay people.

If a person is a caterer and has an issue with a gay wedding, they are protected by both state and federal law where most of us live. A fact that I'm sure was unknown to most who posted in this thread.

I understand and respect the herd mentality in cases of vaccines.

The herd mentality in thought is another issue.


oh god, the ole "But, But, I have a black friend" argument.


hey Bob- here's a tip for ya

whatever the current topic of the day is, Seacrest knows someone in that field and/or has extensive personal experience with it


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Seacrest wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
You don't have the right to openly discriminate as a business. Why is this a debate?

It's only an issue if someone says "I won't work for you because you are gay". That is the only thing being defended here. The ability to tell a potential customer "Your way of life is wrong and I won't work with you".

So, choose which side you are on with that.



I turn down more clients than I take.

And in my line of work, I do and have worked with and for gay people.

If a person is a caterer and has an issue with a gay wedding, they are protected by both state and federal law where most of us live. A fact that I'm sure was unknown to most who posted in this thread.

I understand and respect the herd mentality in cases of vaccines.

The herd mentality in thought is another issue.
Do you believe a business should be allowed to say to someone "I'm sorry. You are gay. I do not want your business." or to be able to put up a sign that says "No Gays Allowed"?

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Caller Bob wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
You don't have the right to openly discriminate as a business. Why is this a debate?

It's only an issue if someone says "I won't work for you because you are gay". That is the only thing being defended here. The ability to tell a potential customer "Your way of life is wrong and I won't work with you".

So, choose which side you are on with that.



I turn down more clients than I take.

And in my line of work, I do and have worked with and for gay people.

If a person is a caterer and has an issue with a gay wedding, they are protected by both state and federal law where most of us live. A fact that I'm sure was unknown to most who posted in this thread.

I understand and respect the herd mentality in cases of vaccines.

The herd mentality in thought is another issue.


oh god, the ole "But, But, I have a black friend" argument.



Not hardly.

You are unable to articulate a cogent response so you keep throwing out non sequiturs.

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Do you believe a business should be allowed to say to someone "I'm sorry. You are gay. I do not want your business." or to be able to put up a sign that says "No Gays Allowed"?

This will not be answered.

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Do you believe a business should be allowed to say to someone "I'm sorry. You are gay. I do not want your business." or to be able to put up a sign that says "No Gays Allowed"?


well, some beliefs are better than others


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I'm sorry your parents didn't pay enough attention to you, when you were a child.


Are you a stay at home dad?


That's a stupid question coming from a guy who knows that I do nothing but sit around, and smoke pot all day.

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Any Christian who would deny services based on if someone is gay is not a real Christian.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Do you believe a business should be allowed to say to someone "I'm sorry. You are gay. I do not want your business."


What if a gay person says, "But what if I want to give you the business?"


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Chus wrote:
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I'm sorry your parents didn't pay enough attention to you, when you were a child.


Are you a stay at home dad?


That's a stupid question coming from a guy who knows that I do nothing but sit around, and smoke pot all day.

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Go get it, boy.


So that's a yes?

Just asking, no need to get so defensive.


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Do you believe a business should be allowed to say to someone "I'm sorry. You are gay. I do not want your business."


What if a gay person says, "But what if I want to give you the business?"


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