I'll say it again.

Our constitution and our federal and state law allow some one to say, "I'm not in agreement because of my religion beliefs, with the concept of a gay wedding. While I respect your ability to have one, I would prefer not to cater it."

So is your problem with the Constitution or with the federal and state laws that give them that safe guard?

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Like monetary business, or "the business" business?

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-- source

Do you think so?

Do you have the capability of having your own thoughts?

Laws change. I want to know which side you fall on.

Please answer or you are just wasting time.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I think we're all missing the real issue here: who knew Rozner/Seacrest knew so much about stuff not related to Ryne Sandberg or Greg Maddux?

Let's not pretend that we haven't done this already. Ok?

I've been very clear here in the past on religious objections.

If you want to use birth control, that is your choice. My objection is with a law forcing me to pay for it. I won't.

If you want to have a gay marriage, then you can certainly find a caterer who can help you.

If a caterer has a moral objection based upon religious beliefs, then I'm in agreement if their objection is based upon those grounds.

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They dont have to do anything. They can close up shop if they want.


In addition to the protections against discrimination provided under federal law, many states have passed their own Civil Rights Acts that provide broader protections than the Federal Civil Rights Act. For example, California's Unruh Civil Rights Act makes it illegal to discriminate against individuals based on unconventional dress or sexual preference.

Been answered numerous times.

The herd mentality is alive here.

A bunch of guys pontificating about a law that they never read, living in a state and country that already had that law.


Answer that one for me.

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You stated previously that you know what I do all day. It was a stupid question.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Wouldn't you rather pay for the birth control over the cost of an abortion? Or the wellfare $$$ needed to sustain such child?

It's not clear. Please say if you agree or disagree.

Let us make it simple.

Do you think a business should be allowed to put up a sign saying "No Gays Allowed"? I'm going to go with no on that one. What about you? I believe your last sentence indicates that you believe they should be able to put up a "No Gays Allowed" sign.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Never let Ricks dogged attempts to nail you the cross bother you Crest.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

he's right, it is clear. he's doesn't like gays, doesn't approve of using birth control and has never looked at a womans boobs before

of course he thinks it's alright, he hates gays

I'm surprised this wasn't a repost of your twitter comments like the fifty other ones you've done in the past two weeks.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Thanks for reading them.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

My views are pretty clear here.

What they are based upon is even clearer.

I'm enjoying the shit out of pointing out the herd mentality that makes up most of this board.

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I'm surprised Seacrest is even wasting his time engaging us, shouldn't he get back to his very important busy job with his non-gay clients?

When someone hangs out that shingle, I'll be happy to answer the question.

We are discussing something totally different here.

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right, but what's funny is that while they are very clear for anyone to see, you still can't bring yourself to actually state them

Fair enough. You think a business should be allowed to put up a "No Gays Allowed" sign. I'm sorry it took me a while to know for certain.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Wrong, Wrong and wrong.

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The Civil Unions law completely changes all laws relating to gay discrimination.


The Illinois law was passed 18 years ago and is a liberal version of the ridiculousness in Indiana.


The Illinois = Indiana thing just doesnt work here.

CallerBob.....definitely no Terry's Peeps/Leash/CopKiller

No way. Totally not any one of them....

I think everyone here sans you, comprehended my views on the law here, across the country and IN.

Brick is asking a separate question. If that happens at some time in the future, I'll be happy to answer it.

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So I should pay the mob protection money so they don't ruin my business? You might want to rethink your premise there. He disagrees with paying for birth control on religious grounds and that's your counter-argument? Basically they're going to get pregnant and then choose to have an abortion or a welfare child because I won't pay for their birth control? Try a different tack...

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An unjust law is no law at all--St. Augustine of Hippo

Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

Some people think homosexuality is a psychological disorder and something that can be cured.

Anyone here believe that?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/03/13/oklahoma_legislator_wants_anti_gay_businesses_to_post_no_gays_allowed_signs.html

Ok. You can answer now.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Wow, that is actually surprising.