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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:56 am 
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shouldn't a case where nothing happened have been a very quick investigation and ruling?

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I'm surprised it's dragged on this long. I figured the Cubs would get a small fine and a strongly worded letter. The longer this goes on the more I think the Rays have a legitimate case and want real compensation.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
I'm surprised it's dragged on this long. I figured the Cubs would get a small fine and a strongly worded letter. The longer this goes on the more I think the Rays have a legitimate case and want real compensation.


Their choice of Bryant or Russell should suffice.


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I have a couple more thoughts. Just wait.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
I'm surprised it's dragged on this long. I figured the Cubs would get a small fine and a strongly worded letter. The longer this goes on the more I think the Rays have a legitimate case and want real compensation.



There really is no way to prove anything.. They ask n then ya deny.

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The Rays bitch about everything and they can because they know they are the stepchildren of MLB that wont be kicked out of the house.

Yeah, they got punked by Maddons agent, but outside of the agent doing his job and giving the Cubs a headsup before some formal letters were processed, they can keep screaming and they will until they get something they dont deserve.

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The Rays bitch about everything and they can because they know they are the stepchildren of MLB that wont be kicked out of the house.

Yeah, they got punked by Maddons agent, but outside of the agent doing his job and giving the Cubs a headsup before some formal letters were processed, they can keep screaming and they will until they get something they dont deserve.


Exactly...it's the same Goldman Sachs mentality that is ingrained in most of the Rays' owners.

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good dolphin wrote:
shouldn't a case where nothing happened have been a very quick investigation and ruling?


Tampering cases are very difficult to prove, right?

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Scorehead wrote:
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shouldn't a case where nothing happened have been a very quick investigation and ruling?


Tampering cases are very difficult to prove, right?


yes, but sometimes the value to one party is to stop dealing with it.

I would be willing to wager the Rays have subtle hints at which players they would take to make this whole thing go away....and thats the delay.

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bigfan wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
shouldn't a case where nothing happened have been a very quick investigation and ruling?


Tampering cases are very difficult to prove, right?


yes, but sometimes the value to one party is to stop dealing with it.

I would be willing to wager the Rays have subtle hints at which players they would take to make this whole thing go away....and thats the delay.


Or the Cubs said "prove it", & the Rays are having a difficult time doing so.

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From John Heyman at CBS:

The expectation is that MLB's tampering investigation spurred by Tampa Bay's allegation against the Cubs in the Joe Maddon case will be wrapped up fairly soon, and while MLB was still interviewing people involved as recently as last week, there is believed to have been no smoking gun found. (Had there been, it certainly wouldn't have taken this long.) Regardless, Rays owner Stuart Sternberg was said to have been quite upset to see Maddon leave, to the point of telling him he'd never work for them again upon the breakup, and is said to have been quite interested in the findings in this case. Maddon gained the opportunity to leave the Rays, thanks to a clause in his contract triggered when GM Andrew Friedman, who famously worked without a contract, left for the Dodgers. So it shouldn't come as a shock that he did indeed leave. In this case, MLB has gone to the trouble of doing computer forensics on devices belonging to Cubs people and also to Maddon's agent Alan Nero. One weakness in the case would seem to be Maddon's olive-branch offer to stay with the Rays for what is said to have been a four-year deal for only slightly more than half of the $25 million, five-year deal he ultimately got with the Cubs. If he had any inkling the Cubs were going to make him $5 million a year, it's difficult to understand why he'd offer to stay for barely more than half that.

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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
From John Heyman at CBS:

The expectation is that MLB's tampering investigation spurred by Tampa Bay's allegation against the Cubs in the Joe Maddon case will be wrapped up fairly soon, and while MLB was still interviewing people involved as recently as last week, there is believed to have been no smoking gun found. (Had there been, it certainly wouldn't have taken this long.) Regardless, Rays owner Stuart Sternberg was said to have been quite upset to see Maddon leave, to the point of telling him he'd never work for them again upon the breakup, and is said to have been quite interested in the findings in this case. Maddon gained the opportunity to leave the Rays, thanks to a clause in his contract triggered when GM Andrew Friedman, who famously worked without a contract, left for the Dodgers. So it shouldn't come as a shock that he did indeed leave. In this case, MLB has gone to the trouble of doing computer forensics on devices belonging to Cubs people and also to Maddon's agent Alan Nero. One weakness in the case would seem to be Maddon's olive-branch offer to stay with the Rays for what is said to have been a four-year deal for only slightly more than half of the $25 million, five-year deal he ultimately got with the Cubs. If he had any inkling the Cubs were going to make him $5 million a year, it's difficult to understand why he'd offer to stay for barely more than half that.


That is not logical, unless Heyman believes the league has a vendetta against the Cubs. The much more logical response to a longer than anticipated investigation is that there was some evidence that demanded more scrutiny.

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Rays will probably drop the claim anyway as they are playing better without Maddon.

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Rays will probably drop the claim anyway as they are playing better without Maddon.


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Matches Malone wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Rays will probably drop the claim anyway as they are playing better without Maddon.


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It was just an immoral act but not an illegal one.

All hail Theo.

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The investigation should have taken five minutes. Nothing to uncover. Waste of time.


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