to the both of you

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

you and 4 of your buddies?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I got into an argument with a priest a couple of weeks ago. Top that for cuntiness.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Things I've learned in this thread alone:

*I'm complaining about the Cubs too much despite the fact I have not really attacked anything the Cubs have done THIS season except the Maddon hiring & the Maddon "8th batter thing".

*Nobody compares to Kershaw from baseball's golden era despite numerous guys dominating hitting with godlike endurance and statistics from that era. (See Mickey Lolich 1971)

* The mound has been tinkered with after 1969 based on opinion.

* Darkside is very cuntily in his board behavior for arguing fact.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

It's not an opinion, jimmy. When the max height was 15" teams built that fucker higher. When they reduced it to ten inches, teams still built it higher. They couldn't get away with an 18" or 20" mound anymore though. Teams complaining about the Dodger mound was part of the reason for the rule change in the first place.

So why aren't they doing it now? I'm sure in certain instances they are. But this really has a lot to do with the curveball. You have to remember that when they reduced the mound height in 1969 the typical repetoire was fastball-curveball-changeup. Because of the lower mound it became extremely difficult to throw the curve effectively. Those curveball pitchers didn't suddenly disappear with the mound reduction. They were on teams and getting paid. In the long run, the younger guys coming up largely abandoned the curveball and began relying on sliders, split-finger pitches, and eventually cutters. The height of the mound wasn't so critical for these slider-cutter guys, and so that particular bending of the rules became less prevalent than it had been.

I get the feeling you don't appreciate Kershaw and what he's doing nearly enough. Here's a guy commanding a curveball off a lower mound and putting up numbers that are the equal of any in whatever you want to call a "golden age".

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Science says there is no such thing as a curveball.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

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Pretty classic right there.

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Elections have consequences.

I sometimes forget that Waino was the closer down the stretch in his rookie campaign. What a great career arc.

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Umps wouldn't call a curveball a strike for a long time. Maybe they do now? I don't watch as much as I used to. Those AL umps with the big outside chest protector would call curveball strikes.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest