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bigfan · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:01 pm

good dolphin wrote:

bigfan wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

Len Kasper is on the objective side.

I can't really speak to his actual broadcasts but he does not come off as anything close to that on the radio with B&B.

It feels like I can write his answers to every question. Spoiler Alert: Everything is great about everything.

When you are trying to sell something, which is what the media people do for a team....Always painting a great picture and smiling is exactly what you want.

I assum you have some type of marketing or salespeople, or do some sales calls? Do you or they walk in and start talking crap about your company or the others?

but on WSCR his role is baseball expert not Cub bandwagon leader.

Actually he is on to talk about the Cubs specifically, you have him mixed up with the guy who used to be on as a "baseball expert" and took the air time to rip his former employer who showed him the door....which he chose to walk out of....always remember, Stone was not fired, he left.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:09 pm

IMU wrote:

Len Kasper is as objective as you can be as a team play-by-play man can be during his broadcasts. Period.

This is false. Its a Scoreheadesque statement, and written in a very Scoreheadesque way.

IMU wrote:

If you disagree, give me an alternative.

Since you are the self proclaimed expert, having watched "MLB Network constantly, you feel you have a good sense of play-by-play men from a ton of teams," why don't you give us the alternative.

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:17 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

Len Kasper is as objective as you can be as a team play-by-play man can be during his broadcasts. Period.

This is false. Its a Scoreheadesque statement, and written in a very Scoreheadesque way.

IMU wrote:

If you disagree, give me an alternative.

Since you are the self proclaimed expert, having watched "MLB Network constantly, you feel you have a good sense of play-by-play men from a ton of teams," why don't you give us the alternative.

Vin Scully would be next up. But he still bleeds Dodger Blue here and there.

Baltimore has an excellent booth with Thorne and Jim Palmer. I think Gary Thorne is pretty objective when I've heard him. Brian Anderson is decent in Milwaukee.

If you want to hear the opposite, listen to Victor Rojas, Thom Brennaman, Hawk, Jon Miller....

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:22 pm

Kasper is very close to Thom Brennaman. If you don't see it, that is your problem.

Vin Scully is one of the best ever. Stop talking about him.

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:25 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Kasper is very close to Thom Brennaman. If you don't see it, that is your problem.

Vin Scully is one of the best ever. Stop talking about him.

But he wasn't considered that after this first ten years.

Kasper and Brennaman are not similar in the least. You do not watch baseball telecasts besides the White Sox - I think this thread makes that fairly evident.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:28 pm

IMU wrote:

Kasper and Brennaman are not similar in the least.

This is on you. You are clearly wearing Cubbie blue glasses. Thats ok, just don't pretend you know it all or you are objective.

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:32 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

Kasper and Brennaman are not similar in the least.

This is on you. You are clearly wearing Cubbie blue glasses. Thats ok, just don't pretend you know it all or you are objective.

Find some folks that agree with you. Please find me maybe a list ranking broadcasters or something. I believe I can corroborate my statements. Can you?

Corroborate means support, by the way.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:33 pm

IMU wrote:

Find some folks that agree with you.

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=93204&p=2221790#p2221790

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:36 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

Find some folks that agree with you.

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=93204&p=2221790#p2221790

Maybe try some reputable sources. People that are possibly paid for their baseball opinions. If we could all cite random internet posters...well, I just don't feel comfortable citing "The INQUISITOR" as a source to you. I'm sure you wouldn't take the sourcing seriously, as well.

Peoria Matt is a fine citizen of our nation. But he is one man, with one opinion that possibly is formed without watching a series of other broadcast booths.

Juiced · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:06 am **Posts:** 6839

IMU wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Kasper is very close to Thom Brennaman. If you don't see it, that is your problem.

Vin Scully is one of the best ever. Stop talking about him.

But he wasn't considered that after this first ten years.

Kasper and Brennaman are not similar in the least. You do not watch baseball telecasts besides the White Sox - I think this thread makes that fairly evident.

I agree with him. Very similar styles and voices. I hope this doesn't hurt my chances to join team CoC.

Just upgraded my town and have begun the pillaging of the lesser folk.

Brick · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:38 pm

When you are IMU WOO WOO then of course anyone else sounds objective.

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:39 pm

Juiced wrote:

I agree with him. Very similar styles and voices. I hope this doesn't hurt my chances to join team CoC.

Just upgraded my town and have begun the pillaging of the lesser folk.

It does not. You're entitled to having faulty opinion. I'm used to interacting with folks with faulty opinions on score670.com/phpBB.

That being said, how the hell have you not been able to rebuild your Clan Castle? You started how long ago? It is only 40,000 gold...

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:40 pm

IMU wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

Find some folks that agree with you.

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=93204&p=2221790#p2221790

Maybe try some reputable sources. People that are possibly paid for their baseball opinions.

Len Kasper is paid by the Cubs for his opinions. All you cited was people you listen to. You aren't very reputable.

I would consider Cubs fans on this board a fairly reputable source for an opinion on a guy who calls Cubs games. The INQUISITOR is a Cubs fan, and obvious Sox fan troll. He would not be a good White Sox source. Peoria Matt, though he does not post much about the White Sox, is one of the most fair and objective baseball posters on this board. Kamps not quite as much, but he isn't the Sox hater that you claim not to be. RPB sometimes has the Cubs colored glasses on, but he can also talk way way way way more objectively about the White Sox than you ever could.

Its OK to disgree, IMU. You just don't have to go all Scorehead and proclaim yourself to be correct and dismiss everybody else's thoughts as garbage.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:45 pm

Kasper is pretty good in that he keeps up with modern baseball theory and has a cursory knowledge of pop culture. He's a little too vanilla sometimes and kind of a dweeb.

TV guys don't really matter to me much though. Radio guys is where the real broadcasters flaunt their skills.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Scorehead is taking a lot of crossfire in this thread

Juiced · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:06 am **Posts:** 6839

IMU wrote:

Juiced wrote:

I agree with him. Very similar styles and voices. I hope this doesn't hurt my chances to join team CoC.

Just upgraded my town and have begun the pillaging of the lesser folk.

It does not. You're entitled to having faulty opinion. I'm used to interacting with folks with faulty opinions on score670.com/phpBB.

That being said, how the hell have you not been able to rebuild your Clan Castle? You started how long ago? It is only 40,000 gold...

My workers are slow. No fire and passion. I've been playing for a week. My gold only goes up to 25,000.

I tried to increase the hours, but the workers union said no and sent a hot air balloon to bomb my town.

bigfan · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:49 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

Kasper is pretty good in that he keeps up with modern baseball theory and has a cursory knowledge of pop culture. He's a little too vanilla sometimes and kind of a dweeb.

TV guys don't really matter to me much though. Radio guys is where the real broadcasters flaunt their skills.

I think you should be noticing the color guys and I think Jimmy needs to pick up his game if he will be part of the 'streams" and bigger money.

IMU · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:53 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

lol: Len Kasper is paid by the Cubs for his opinions. All you cited was people you listen to. You aren't very reputable.

I would consider Cubs fans on this board a fairly reputable source for an opinion on a guy who calls Cubs games. The INQUISITOR is a Cubs fan, and obvious Sox fan troll. He would not be a good White Sox source. Peoria Matt, though he does not post much about the White Sox, is one of the most fair and objective baseball posters on this board. Kamps not quite as much, but he isn't the Sox hater that you claim not to be. RPB sometimes has the Cubs colored glasses on, but he can also talk way way way way more objectively about the White Sox than you ever could.

Its OK to disgree, IMU. You just don't have to go all Scorehead and proclaim yourself to be correct and dismiss everybody else's thoughts as garbage.

I have listened to all of them. MLB Network is on my TV 80% of the time I am home. I also watch most of the national broadcasts. You may not have known this...I'm quite the baseball fan.

I just selected a few of the top names, and a few of the cellar dwellers.

sinicalypse · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:54 pm

Juiced wrote:

Just upgraded my town and have begun the pillaging of the lesser folk.

you should try that in our baseball league. it's working great for me (seeing as you're the last dude to get me in a weekly matchup and that was last year's ASB)

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:54 pm

bigfan wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Kasper is pretty good in that he keeps up with modern baseball theory and has a cursory knowledge of pop culture. He's a little too vanilla sometimes and kind of a dweeb.

TV guys don't really matter to me much though. Radio guys is where the real broadcasters flaunt their skills.

I think you should be noticing the color guys and I think Jimmy needs to pick up his game if he will be part of the 'streams" and bigger money.

Coomdog has grown on me. His chemistry with Pat has improved.

Darkside · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:00 pm

It's pretty obvious that any local PbP team is going to be homerish. They are. All of them. Generally they're hired by the team themselves or the network that the team owns/has deals with.
National Broadcast teams should have less to no homerisms, though Bucks shows from time to time :wink:

Of course Len is a cheerleader. Pat and Ed are homer cheerleaders.

The problem is waaay over the top homers. Ron Santo was really, really, really hard to listen to. Hawk is really, really hard to listen to.

The difference between Hawk and Santo is that I find that Hawk is straight up disrespectful to the other team. That is different from homerism. You can be a homer. Don't disrespect the other team or the game.

Juiced · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:06 am **Posts:** 6839

Darkside wrote:

The difference between Hawk and Santo is that I find that Hawk is straight up disrespectful to the other team. That is different from homerism. You can be a homer. Don't disrespect the other team or the game.

And one had legs.

Peoria Matt · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:20 pm

Juiced wrote:

Darkside wrote:

The difference between Hawk and Santo is that I find that Hawk is straight up disrespectful to the other team. That is different from homerism. You can be a homer. Don't disrespect the other team or the game.

And one had legs.

I'm stumped why you would say that.

Juiced · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:06 am **Posts:** 6839

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juiced wrote:

Darkside wrote:

The difference between Hawk and Santo is that I find that Hawk is straight up disrespectful to the other team. That is different from homerism. You can be a homer. Don't disrespect the other team or the game.

And one had legs.

I'm stumped why you would say that.

Bet you didn't know Santo's favorite place to eat was IHOP.

Peoria Matt · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:34 pm

Juiced wrote:

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juiced wrote:

Darkside wrote:

The difference between Hawk and Santo is that I find that Hawk is straight up disrespectful to the other team. That is different from homerism. You can be a homer. Don't disrespect the other team or the game.

And one had legs.

I'm stumped why you would say that.

Bet you didn't know Santo's favorite place to eat was IHOP.

Wow.

Juiced · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:06 am **Posts:** 6839

MATT,

Are You The Guy With No Arms and No Legs That Lays On Your Porch?

Peoria Matt · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:43 pm

Juiced wrote:

MATT,

Are You The Guy With No Arms and No Legs That Lays On Your Porch?

I had a guy I worked with a guy who used to give me "Do you feel walked on?"

Scooter · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:16 pm

Peoria Matt wrote:

Juiced wrote:

MATT,

Are You The Guy With No Arms and No Legs That Lays On Your Porch?

I had a guy I worked with a guy who used to give me "Do you feel walked on?"

Did you punch him? :shock:

Scorehead · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:09 pm

Deshais is brutal, and so is Coomer. Cant believe either of these goofs were hired. I really like both of the Cubs PBP guys.

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