well said, agree completely

I think Tiger had a decent personality on the course. He was an intimidating force of nature almost from the start.

Spieth looked like a guy playing a round with his dad pretty much every time I saw him.

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What exactly gives a golfer "personality"?

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Certainly not a big, vapid smile like Phil's.

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Yeah that's true, there is something inherently exciting or heroic about Tom Brady throwing a 50 yard TD pass or Kyle Schwarber hitting a home run in A ball. It's harder to manage on golf--Woods was maybe the only guy to manage it consistently.

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Most of the post-Tiger golfers have had most of, if not their entire, careers take place in the world of social media where if you look at somebody the wrong way, you are trending as an asshole on Twitter.

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golf has never traditionally been a sport about being a "personality". that was more in tennis, as far as fame in an individual sport. golf transcended with jack and tiger because they were breaking records in a sport that doesn't see a lot of "excitement". there is far too much hyperbole in sports media now because there is far too much sports coverage. baseball writers of old were ready to write biblical sized tales about the sport. but it was in major newspapers, not a thousand websites.

some golfers have been pretty colorful, like nick faldo, greg norman or chi chi (loved that guy) or john daly. the usual story on a golfer is he's just a good guy and a family man.

I want to go watch some races with you. I think that would be a hoot.

I guess this is how I feel. Golf doesn't really lend itself to "personality". You are expected to be relatively reserved and keep things in check. That is why I like that movie
Happy Gilmore. I guess that guy had personality as a golfer. You either like someone or you don't by their body language and interviews. These guys are pretty intense and
what I like about it is other than sponsors money these guys are working for their paychecks each week. You aren't seeing any $40 million guaranteed signing bonuses. There
are some guys that are making big bank through endorsements but not that many. John Daly is a personality but mostly because he has been in the tabloids and dresses like a
clown. Golf just doesn't lend itself to people being bigger than the game very often.

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For sure, we should do that. I always mean to hit up spmack to meet me at Hawthorne or Maywood. Arlington Park is too civilized. It's almost like it's not a real racetrack. It would be good to see an actual live horse in person once in awhile. I've gotten lazy in going to the OTB and I think spmack is one of those modern ADW bettors.

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I haven't been to a track in over 15 years. I keep saying I will go every spring and never make it. When I lived in West Virginia there was a small track nearby
and I made a trip up to Saratoga that summer and really enjoyed it but I just didn't stick with it.

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You're exactly right. Golf is an establishment country club sport. A certain level of deportment is inextricably entwined in the game itself. It demands that the typical golfer carry himself like the president of the local Rotary club.

I don't think Daly is a good example. He's just a drunk. (My kind of golfer.) But Tiger did things that the golf establishment certainly considered untoward. All that club banging and pouting. But he was smashing convention just by virtue of his skin color, if he was going to smash other conventions nobody was going to do more than grumble about it under their breath.

I don't think acting like a big baby is "personality". Tiger speaks in a monotone like Derrick Rose and Brian Urlacher. He just has a bigger vocabulary.

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Jorr has the right take for me. The reason I was turned off by Tiger at first was all the initial hype and his dad. But you can get over it as it was interesting. As the years went on the media made me sick of him but there is no bigger reason I root against him is that he is a bad sport. I played too many sports with the great athlete that banged shit, swore and were a douche in general when things don't go as expected.

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Exactly. What personality did Tiger Woods ever display? He came to prominence pre-internet saturation/social media microscope. So the only impression we had of Tiger Woods was a carefully constructed artifice composed of determined looks lining up a put to win a major, the Bull Durham-esque cliche filed speeches in the winner's circle and the brief moments of dialogue--I am Tiger Woods--in Nike commercials.

Payne Stewart is another who brought some personality to the game. Half of that was his attire, the old style short pants and he'd usually wear an NFL team's colors on Sundays.

Our high school golf team coach showed us a movie that the PGA distributed to give golfers looking to join the tour tips on how to dress, act, what to order for dinner, not to drink too much, get married asap, only have sex in the missionary position with the lights out etc.

It was comically bad, as it appeared to have been filmed in the late 70's or early 80's. But the overall point of the film was NOT to have a personality if you wanted a tour card.

Don't think anyone's saying otherwise but just to note that Spieth isn't a surprise winner. He shared the lead with the ultimate winner through 54 holes last year and he and Rory had the most action on em in Vegas.

no way

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Sorry about that Mike. I didn't mean to be like that but you know as well as I do that McKinley Park weekend hardball beer league was serious stuff. Just couldn't help it.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

He was a stone cold killer on the course that was intimidating people twice his age and changing the whole dynamic of the tournament simply because he was on the leaderboard. You guys keep on confusing personality on the course with personality off it. Jordan doesn't have half the personality off the court he had on it either.

Golf tournaments with Tiger on the leader board are completely different events. Why would that be?

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That it was.

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No way, what?


Tiger was a robot.


I. FEEL. GOOD. THE. COURSE. LOOKS. GOOD. I. LIKE. MY. CHANCES.

I am talking about personality on the course. Tiger has plenty of it.

Most athletes just give generic answers in interviews. As I said before, Jordan was pretty much useless in interviews. On the court, he was must watch television

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Uh oh...this could be bad for Spieth. B&B may have issues with his faith.

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Because modern golf fans (young guys, minorities) love rooting for him and traditional golf fans (old racists) love rooting against him.

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Didn't take Hussra for a onetime high school golfer. Everyone here is just full of surprises.

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I'd counter that Phil Mickelson gets near the same level of interest.

Still though, it still doesn't change the idea that Tiger has a completely different impact than a non-descript guy like Spieth who seems like he was created from a pro golfer factory.

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Only because at the height of Tigermania he was the guy with the best chance at beating Tiger and so he was adopted by the racist golf fan as their champion. Phil should wear a confederate flag shirt on Sundays.

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So, you're just a fan of a TV show?

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