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This conversation was held with Good Dolphin well before it happened, thus making it BOARD BUSINESS.

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I know you are, but what am I?!



....I'm really bored right now. 8)

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bigfan wrote:
This conversation was held with Good Dolphin well before it happened, thus making it BOARD BUSINESS.


don't discuss our high level discussions with the plebes

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Then can we discuss the Adam Eaton signing?

And congrats on his first walk and SB over the weekend......This 'Early" signing isnt working out so well, Maybe AMERICA can explain to me what the reason are that the leadoff man has 1 SB with the new base running coach, that was going to change things.

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Goff just said Kenny isn't a fan of Ventura. Ventura is Hahn's guy.

Just seems to be a theme that any failure is heaped on Kenny and any success is given to Hahn by fans/media.

Would be nice if a reporter could do some digging and see what decisions belong to which party.


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Goff just said Kenny isn't a fan of Ventura. Ventura is Hahn's guy.

Just seems to be a theme that any failure is heaped on Kenny and any success is given to Hahn by fans/media.

Would be nice if a reporter could do some digging and see what decisions belong to which party.


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or better yet.

Hire one friggin GM who is qualified who in turn can hire one Manager who is qualified and run the team like a respectable Major League Baseball organization.

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Kirkwood wrote:
Goff just said Kenny isn't a fan of Ventura. Ventura is Hahn's guy.

Just seems to be a theme that any failure is heaped on Kenny and any success is given to Hahn by fans/media.

Would be nice if a reporter could do some digging and see what decisions belong to which party.


heard that....dont need to do the research but Robin was all Kenny!!!! and look for the quotes from Kenny about how good Robin was going to be.

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someone will go find kemnys quotes

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Only KW would be dumb enough to take some guy off the street to be GM? You think Mr. MBA/JD would do something like that?

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Then can we discuss the Adam Eaton signing? And congrats on his first walk and SB over the weekend......This 'Early" signing isnt working out so well,



Huh? What's wrong with a solid defensive centerfielder who puts up 118 OPS+ over his first two years with a team?

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Eaton ain't solid defensively.. He's bad.

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Eaton ain't solid defensively.. He's bad.



Wrong again. Do you ever post anything that's right?

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I guess you just have lower standards. Other than his speed, what do you like..weak arm check , throws to the wrong bag check , not smart - misses cut off men and pretty poor base runner.

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Eaton is nothing to get excited about offensively or defensively.

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you could do a lot worse than adam eaton as CF/leadoff.

perhaps with an improved coaching staff he'll improve routes/baserunning?


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Eaton is nothing to get excited about offensively or defensively.



Eaton is fine offensively and better than average defensively. He isn't having the best year, but he has done well at everything he is supposed to do well in the past. He's entering his prime. He's a guy you can actually say, "he'll be fine" about with some confidence.

http://www.fieldingbible.com/complete-votetally.asp

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wdelaney72 wrote:
Eaton is nothing to get excited about offensively or defensively.



Eaton is fine offensively and better than average defensively. He isn't having the best year, but he has done well at everything he is supposed to do well in the past. He's entering his prime. He's a guy you can actually say, "he'll be fine" about with some confidence.

http://www.fieldingbible.com/complete-votetally.asp


He's legit.


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Name DPR RngR ErrR UZR UZR/150 Def
Kevin Kiermaier 18.7 0 21.3 41.6 22.9
Billy Hamilton 11.8 1.1 14.2 19.7 15.8
Lorenzo Cain 8.8 -1.2 9.2 12.9 10.8
A.J. Pollock 7.8 0.4 8 11.6 9.7
Kevin Pillar 8.5 0.2 7.6 12.1 9.2
Austin Jackson 7.7 -0.6 6.6 10.2 8.1
Adam Jones -2.3 0.2 5.6 9.8 7.2
Mookie Betts 2.4 0 3.5 5.4 5.1
Carlos Gomez 6.6 -1 2.9 6.2 4.2
Mike Trout 0 1.2 1.9 2.4 3.6
Dexter Fowler 3.6 -0.5 0.8 0.2 2.6
Juan Lagares 2.6 0.7 0.8 1 2.4
Marcell Ozuna -3.4 0.9 0.7 1.8 2
Odubel Herrera 2.3 -1.2 0.2 0.4 1.6
Charlie Blackmon -2.4 0.3 -2.9 -4.4 -1.3
Andrew McCutchen -3.9 0.7 -3.4 -6.7 -1.6
Joc Pederson -1.6 -1.3 -3.9 -6.3 -2.2
Michael Bourn -7.2 0.6 -5.8 -11.4 -4.6
Cameron Maybin -5 0.5 -6.5 -8.8 -4.9
Billy Burns -4.3 0.4 -7.5 -13.7 -6
Anthony Gose -8.5 0 -8 -11.5 -6.6
Adam Eaton -6.5 -1.2 -10.4 -15 -8.6
Angel Pagan -7.2 0.3 -13.2 -21.6 -11.7

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Is that supposed to prove defensive metrics are meaningless?


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pretty much. he looks kinda shaky to me. bad routes. real bad throws. REAL BAD. :lol:

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
Eaton is nothing to get excited about offensively or defensively.



Eaton is fine offensively and better than average defensively. He isn't having the best year, but he has done well at everything he is supposed to do well in the past. He's entering his prime. He's a guy you can actually say, "he'll be fine" about with some confidence.

http://www.fieldingbible.com/complete-votetally.asp

If he was on the Cubs you'd be chalking him up as a Bust.


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Cubs fans would be calling him Wee Willie Keeler and JORR would be calling him Dexter Fowler. :lol:

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He's an average CF'er. He comes in well and goes alley to alley but he can get turned around on balls hit directly over his head which means he should probably play a little deeper. I'm not sure where this bad arm stuff is coming from. He has an above average CF'ers arm and it's accurate.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
Eaton is nothing to get excited about offensively or defensively.



Eaton is fine offensively and better than average defensively. He isn't having the best year, but he has done well at everything he is supposed to do well in the past. He's entering his prime. He's a guy you can actually say, "he'll be fine" about with some confidence.

http://www.fieldingbible.com/complete-votetally.asp

If he was on the Cubs you'd be chalking him up as a Bust.


Nope. I'd be saying he's fine. Just like Kris Bryant is fine.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
Eaton is nothing to get excited about offensively or defensively.



Eaton is fine offensively and better than average defensively. He isn't having the best year, but he has done well at everything he is supposed to do well in the past. He's entering his prime. He's a guy you can actually say, "he'll be fine" about with some confidence.

http://www.fieldingbible.com/complete-votetally.asp

If he was on the Cubs you'd be chalking him up as a Bust.


Nope. I'd be saying he's fine. Just like Kris Bryant is fine.

As if the two are equal

You've already labeled Soler, Baez and Almora as busts and you were pretty close with Rizzo a few years back.


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I like Eaton. Still can't believe the Dbacks traded him. He has underperformed to my view of his potential. He seems to have that AJ grit factor that makes you love him on your team but hate him otherwise.

When he hit into that double play yesterday, I waited to see how he would react. He threw his batting helmet to the ground as soon as he cleared first base. Fire and passion.

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