and Rust seemed to acknowledge that he did know him but uncharacteristically losing his cool and shooting him

I don't think it was bullshit that they squeezed in. I think the writer had a plan for this information and simply couldn't close.

I think they know how the internet is and just kept feeding them weekly in an attempt to go viral as a show

The show was fantastic.

I'll skip the "I thought it sucked even when everyone thought it was cool" phase and hold out until everyone likes it again.

In that respect time is indeed a flat circle.

I agree. These things were there to make people talk. They ultimately had no place in the actual plot.

Breaking Bad has some similar type stuff, most notably the pink bunny, but it tied into the plot and wasn't left ambiguously hanging.

And I feel that True Detective was laughing at me, acting as if I was crazy or stupid, or that I cared too much for noticing these things.

Interesting but how does that work? A re-write? Was there an ending that made sense with all that stuff?


I think they know how the internet is and just kept feeding them weekly in an attempt to go viral as a show

they film the shows before the season is aired, you realize that right? once it's done, it's done.

Are you asking me or dolphin?

I understand how it works. The plan to feed them weekly was done early on. (although I see how that came off like they were writing them every week. poor wording on my part.)

But yeah, I dont know what gd is saying that he had a plan but couldnt close. If you got to the ending and those things ended up not mattering, then edit some of them out.

Which Ligue did he play?

Before the finale Pizzolatto said this: "I cannot think of anything more insulting as an audience than to go through eight weeks, eight hours with these people, and then to be told it was a lie—that what you were seeing wasn’t really what was happening."

But isn't that really exactly what he did?

Not really, no.

So, I didn't really see Marty's daughter arrange those figures exactly like the crime scene? I didn't see Rust make those beer can men? I didn't see the same art in Marty's home as the art in the nuthouse? I didn't see Rust's face tattooed on LeDoux?

[Marty's kids drawing in the kitchen is a legit stretch, I get it though.
The tattoo is a stretch as well.
The figures? Who knows, they're kids playing with dolls. Could be anything, could be something. ?

I understand how it works. The plan to feed them weekly was done early on. (although I see how that came off like they were writing them every week. poor wording on my part.)

But yeah, I dont know what gd is saying that he had a plan but couldnt close. If you got to the ending and those things ended up not mattering, then edit some of them out.

EW: You said there was no conversion in the story. But was Cohle suggesting he now believes in some kind of afterlife when he told Hart about his near death experience?

NP: It’s not a belief – he’s talking about an experience. And he’s not talking about a reconciliation with loved ones after death: If you listen to what he says, he says, ‘I was gone. There was no me. Just love… and then I woke up.’ That line is significant to the whole series: “And then I woke up.” The only thing like a conversion that he has is when he says, “You’re looking at it wrong. To me, the light is winning.” And that doesn’t describe a conversion to me as much as it describes a broadening of perspective. The man who once said there is no light at the end of the tunnel is now saying there might be order to this. I don’t think it says anything more than: Pick your stories carefully.

EW: Are you prepared for the theories or varied wild interpretations that might come with this ending?

NP: About four weeks ago, I realized I had to completely avoid the Internet. So I am going to just keep doing that. Once it really got out there, and people were buying The King In Yellow, I wanted to tell them, “Don’t buy that! Go buy Galveston!” [Laughs] I realized that people need to have their own journey with the show. Whatever they end up with – whatever theories they have or don’t have – that’s what it means to connect with an audience. One of the most exciting things to see from people who really like the show is that it has inspired such great creativity in them. There are websites of True Detective artwork out there now and it’s beautiful. And I don’t want to take that away from anybody. I know what it means to me. But I don’t want to take away anyone’s interpretation of the show. If they have an interpretation that means it lives inside them and they connected with the show.

The doll is naked laying on the ground with a male doll on top of her and other dolls standing in a semi circle watching. I suppose you could chalk it up to coincidence. You would be in the minority.

The kid's drawing is identical to that of the cult...identical. It also happens to be identical to the drawing in the psych ward.

What would I want to happen? Well, I'm no writer. I think it's reasonable that a political family who got all state grants for religious based education and then was found to have ritualistically killed children might be brought down by the incident.

Instead, the maintenance man took the blame.

. but honestly, thinking there was a plan to coerce the internet into spawning crazy conspiracy theories is ridiculous.

.no one developing a show (especially one with that budget) would give a shit what people on the internet is going to say or think. only people on the internet would give themselves that much credit.

The doll is naked laying on the ground with a male doll on top of her and other dolls standing in a semi circle watching. I suppose you could chalk it up to coincidence. You would be in the minority.

The kid's drawing is identical to that of the cult...identical. It also happens to be identical to the drawing in the psych ward.

What would I want to happen? Well, I'm no writer. I think it's reasonable that a political family who got all state grants for religious based education and then was found to have ritualistically killed children might be brought down by the incident.

Instead, the maintenance man took the blame.

We lose a lot of rights when we look the other way when it doesn't affect our lives or it isn't a cause we agree with.

This sums it up nicely,imo

The Disappointing Finale of “True Detective”
BY EMILY NUSSBAUM

Two weeks ago, I published a critical article about HBO’s “True Detective” in which I argued that, as stylish and as well acted as the series was, it had a hollow center. Beneath its auteurist trappings, the show boiled down to bickering cops hunting a sinister “rape club”—a plot that has been done to death, so to speak, on many better shows. “True Detective” also had a funky gender problem: it was about the evil of men who treat women as lurid props, but the show treated women as lurid props. And, though the dialogue was deeply, sometimes deadly serious, those layers of Lovecraft and nihilism just felt like red herrings.

Well, as of the finale, I’ve changed my mind about one thing, at least: Rust Cohle’s monologues weren’t window dressing. They were the whole point—but I don’t mean that in a good way. In the finale, we discovered that the Spaghetti Man—a.k.a. the lawnmower man, a.k.a. the hulking guy with scars—was indeed our serial killer. A perverted mastermind with a cave full of skulls and thorns, he was diddling his disabled sister inside their Grey Gardens wreck of a mansion; he also had some serious elder abuse going on, a plot that gave me flashbacks to the hilarious movie “Cold Comfort Farm” (“I saw something nasty in the woodshed!”). I relished this surreal, sick, and frankly nasty opening sequence, which led deep into the territory of the notorious “X-Files” episode “Home,” but after that everything went downhill.

Without The King In Yellow, this is a mundane story

You're taking internet too literally or something. Im not talking points about specific conspiracy theories. I just mean the audience. Internet meaning "this generation of viewers"

Are you saying the writer didn't have people's reactions in mind when writing?

Sounds like you're mad at the internet in general though. The internet is essentially the public at this point.

i'm taking the internet to mean exactly what you said when you said someone obviously was "working" the show to feed the internet.



i don't think he thought their reactions were going to be what they were. that's why i quoted him saying what he did.



i'm no more "mad" at the internet than you are mad that the show didn't do what you wanted it to. plenty of people including myself were satisfied by it. life goes on.

from what i gathered from his interviews, he was surprised that people came up with all those theories..