it has to be about fox vs nbc because of the context of who these 2 people work for. it IS about fox. It has to be involved to actually discuss the differences between these 2 people. Also nevermind in my short time here, you've railed on Fox news pretty regularly but i've not seen you give any other "news" outlet that much criticism. if "it's important for an outlet that thinks of themselves as a fair and balanced news organization, to be truthful, no matter the size of their audience. " was true, i'd expect to see more broader fact checking scope.

overstating the impact of nightly news? nbc nightly news is in the top 5 of viewership EVERY DAY in the US. its still very relevant.

reminds me of this...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vince-mcmahons-xspan-promises-bonecrunching-legisl,419/

It was always about Bill O'Reilly, especially after he got on his soap box, to bitch about Brian Williams.



You made it about FOX, by bringing up the viewership. You claimed that FOX shouldn't held to the same standard, because they have a smaller audience.



You've been here a short time, but you have me all figured out, huh? I'm living in PittMike's head full time. I have no desire for a second residence.

My criticisms of FOX are due to their outright lies. If another network lied as often as they did, I would have the same strong negative opinion. However, I will probably see a unicorn, before I see any of the network or cable news outlets get to that level.





I didn't say people aren't watching, but that you have overstated their impact. Viewership of nightly news has been dropping since the 80's. As the baby boomers start dying out, I suspect their viewership will drop even more.

People are getting their news from other sources. I can't believe you would dispute that.

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That people feel betrayed by Brian Williams but not Bill O'Reilly just reinforces how sick people are of Fox News and their rampant lying/agitating. When O'Reilly talks about his responsibility to tell the truth, everyone knows (or should know) he's full of shit. If there's a double standard regarding Fox News, it's because no one bothers giving Fox News a standard to meet anymore.

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You're making zero sense here, CH.

Brian Williams was (apparently) trusted by viewers and the general public of deliver the news and telling the truth. That's what his job was, right? He didn't have a widely viewed opinion and sensationalism show and that is the difference between him and O'Reilly. Bill O. has an opinion show to deliver salacious sensationalism and editorials to a wide audience, it's a talk show for all intents and purposes regardless of what Bill himself says. Two different people tasked with delivering two different things on two different stations. That's why the public and such took such offense at what Brain Williams did and why no one really cares what Bill O. said/says or does. Williams was the competent and trusted reader of the teleprompter and Bill O. is a blowhard with a very large bullhorn. Bill is entertainment and Brian was.the.big.boy.news. Right or wrong that's the straight dope.

If you can't trust Brian Williams then who can you trust? If you trust Bill O' Reilly you should probably reevaluate your life.

exactly

I don’t' think we are getting anywhere. Neither one of us are apparently understanding the other and will end up or already have just feel the other is an idiot. You keep imagining all this is about journalistic integrity but its not. it should be. yes we agree but its not. if this was all kept internal, brian williams would still be broadcasting today. the size of either's viewing audience as well as their competition is necessary in evaluating risk. that’s why its important. Bill is WWE while Brian is Olympic Wrestling.

as far as pittmike, I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no desire to "figure you out" but you lay it out fairly easily, there isn't much figuring. Your biased is well noted and you are most certainly entitled to them.

yeah people get news other places, whatever. nightly news programs still dominate nightly ratings so to discount them as irrelevant is silly.

I don't think you are an idiot.

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