He didn't face half the major league starters last night. He only faced one.

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IMU has the fire and passion. It's why I love him

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Then he pitched just as well as any pitcher he was allowed to face last night.

And as he is 2-2 for the season, he loves equality.

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Darkside is a little confused about that though. When he's arguing with me there's no such thing as a "losing pitcher", wins and losses are a "team stat". I guess he took a different position with IMU. I think he just likes to argue.

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Well, I wouldn't say he pitched as well as Peralta last night. Peralta got the no decision he deserved because he could only cover 18 outs. Samardzija got lucky that Broxton was horrible.

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So you're admitting luck is a huge part of pitching decisions? Good to know.

No starter got a decision in that game.

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He clearly pitched as well as Peralta. They both received no decisions.

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A no decision doesn't tell you much at all. Samardzija was never in a position to win that game and Peralta was never in a position to lose it.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Wins are wins, losses are losses, and no decisions are no decisions.

Or...do you disagree?

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Not all wins, losses, or no decisions are created equal. Of course you know that and so do I. You're not working some kind of gotcha on me. It's a game of time and repetition. You need a large enough sample. Every base hit isn't the same either, but I don't see you questioning batting average as a stat.

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give up more than 4 runs in the first two innings and you should get two losses for that.

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Oakland pounds this pretender and gets that ERA over 5 next start .

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Are you telling me a 10-8 pitcher might have pitched better than a 13-5 pitcher?

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IMU going Jorr on Jorr.

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5 ER over 6 innings and it's a no decision....that's a load of crap.
Nice to see 2 errors on the game.

this team sucks.

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If I'm Hahn the hope is Shark can string together 5 solid outings with 1 or 2 being great and explore dumping his ass.

Perhaps he'll find a package as good as Theo got for Garza.

Chalk it up as a risk that backfired and try to recoup something of value.

Having Danks put together a good run would be far more beneficial.

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Even if shark is "meh" I'm still thinking an NL contender would roll the dice on him.

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No one wants Danks. Give it up.

True, but even if they don't trade him, they will get a pick if he signs elsewhere next season.

If they can move Danks, it opens up a slot for Rodon and clears up 15 mil for a good pitcher in the off season

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They already opened a spot for Rodon by moving Noesi to the bullpen where he belongs.

The only way Danks gets moved is if they eat a lot of salary.

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Might be more palatable with some peanut butter.

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You must have misread my post. I've never said there's no such thing as a losing pitcher. Ever. That's ridiculous.
Wins and losses are largely a team stat. Look no further than the target of this thread to prove that in the first half of last year.
Now, I called Samardija a loser and he is. He's not a winner. I likened him to Romo, who I also think of as a loser. My point is that a loser can have a winning record, and a pitcher with a losing record might not a loser but not getting the benefit of a well playing team.
Pitcher wins and losses are absolutely a team statistic. To think otherwise is a thinking process I simply cannot wrap my mind around.

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8 IP this this era is a big help.

He was getting whacked around by the worst team in mlb , lotta hard hit balls n hits ..whip went up I assume ..too many dps .

The guy sucks..that era hits 5 by fourth of July.

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The one silver lining with this goof suddenly having no stuff is that he might actually be learning how to pitch.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

What is the quality that makes Samardzija (or anyone else) a loser if not losing?

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He's not a winner.

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