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heard a story today about 3 cops who lied about a situation that was videotaped and they testified in court as to how a situation went down, didnt know a tape existed,,,,and then the judge showd the tape in court as the 4th cop is on the stand....she had the chance to change her story as she was on the stand....but the other 3 are going way...

So I tried to look up the story about some cops lieing in contrary to video and the list of stories is so long, cant even find it.

Everyday, it does seem the cops are losing more and more in the war of popular opinion.




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I didn't see your link, greg.

My favorite part of that video is right at the beginning when that cop rolls as if he's storming the beach at Normandy or like he thinks he's Hondo Harrelson from SWAT.

"Good cops" are the ones who made a minimal effort to stop their brother when he pulled his gun out like some kind of maniac after he tried his best to create a riot.


My favorite part was when he grabbed the 14 year old girl in the bikini, cuffed her, threw her on the ground, and pressed his knees into her back, even though she wasn't resisting.

This asswipe needs to be fired immediately.

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where are these cops when 2 chicks fight each other, one of them bringing in their 6 year old kid to the action? they don't go to walmart apparently.


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[y favorite part was when he grabbed the 14 year old girl in the bikini, cuffed her, threw her on the ground, and pressed his knees into her back, even though she wasn't resisting.
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she was obviously manipulating the police officer and got what she deserved. :lol:

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Cops #1 enemy seems to be the truth being filmed nowadays.

It really is quite disturbing. You give a guy a gun and a badge and they become Joseph Stalin.

I still like to believe there are 85% good cops out there but that number is just me hoping.

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http://www.vibe.com/2015/06/mckinney-pool-party-police-video/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign=policebrutality


The first cop that was talking to them seemed fine. I didn't notice any other ones acting like TJ Hooker either.


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I think 85% of all cops are "bad cops". I don't particularly trust them. They will protect their own / protect the badge first & foremost. That said...I know they have a tough job and deal with all types of stress and crap on a daily basis.

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[y favorite part was when he grabbed the 14 year old girl in the bikini, cuffed her, threw her on the ground, and pressed his knees into her back, even though she wasn't resisting.
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she was obviously manipulating the police officer and got what she deserved. :lol:


:lol: Funny.

I don't think anyone deserves to be beaten down in the street like a dog by a maniac cop. Especially for no reason. But I wouldn't say those kids were naive and innocent. They were polite and well-behaved though. The cop was the one who was acting immaturely.

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This story is all kinds of awful:

The New Yorker wrote:
Last fall, I wrote about a young man named Kalief Browder, who spent three years on Rikers Island without being convicted of a crime. He had been arrested in the spring of 2010, at age sixteen, for a robbery he insisted he had not committed. Then he spent more than one thousand days on Rikers waiting for a trial that never happened. During that time, he endured about two years in solitary confinement, where he attempted to end his life several times. Once, in February, 2012, he ripped his bedsheet into strips, tied them together to create a noose, and tried to hang himself from the light fixture in his cell.

In November of 2013, six months after he left Rikers, Browder attempted suicide again. This time, he tried to hang himself at home, from a bannister, and he was taken to the psychiatric ward at St. Barnabas Hospital, not far from his home, in the Bronx. When I met him, in the spring of 2014, he appeared to be more stable.


Then, late last year, about two months after my story about him appeared, he stopped going to classes at Bronx Community College. During the week of Christmas, he was confined in the psych ward at Harlem Hospital. One day after his release, he was hospitalized again, this time back at St. Barnabas. When I visited him there on January 9th, he did not seem like himself. He was gaunt, restless, and deeply paranoid. He had recently thrown out his brand-new television, he explained, “because it was watching me.”

After two weeks at St. Barnabas, Browder was released and sent back home. The next day, his lawyer, Paul V. Prestia, got a call from an official at Bronx Community College. An anonymous donor (who had likely read the New Yorker story) had offered to pay his tuition for the semester. This happy news prompted Browder to reënroll. For the next few months he seemed to thrive. He rode his bicycle back and forth to school every day, he no longer got panic attacks sitting in a classroom, and he earned better grades than he had the prior semester.

Ever since I’d met him, Browder had been telling me stories about having been abused by officers and inmates on Rikers. The stories were disturbing, but I did not fully appreciate what he had experienced until this past April when I obtained surveillance footage of an officer assaulting him and of a large group of inmates pummeling and kicking him. I sat next to Kalief while he watched these videos for the first time. Afterward, we discussed whether they should be published on The New Yorker’s Web site. I told him that it was his decision. He said to put them online.

He was driven by the same motive that led him to talk to me for the first time, a year earlier. He wanted the public to know what he had gone through, so that nobody else would have to endure the same ordeals. His willingness to tell his story publicly—and his ability to recount it with great insight—ultimately helped persuade Mayor Bill de Blasio to try to reform the city’s court system and end the sort of excessive delays that kept him in jail for so long.

Browder’s story also caught the attention of Rand Paul, who began talking about him on the campaign trail. Jay Z met with Browder after watching the videos. Rosie O’Donnell invited him on “The View” last year and recently had him over for dinner. Browder could be a very private person, and he told almost nobody about meeting O’Donnell or Jay Z. However, in a picture taken of him with Jay Z, who draped an arm around his shoulders, Browder looked euphoric.

Last Monday, Prestia, who had filed a lawsuit on Browder’s behalf against the city, noticed that Browder had put up a couple of odd posts on Facebook. When Prestia sent him a text message, asking what was going on, Browder insisted he was O.K. “Are you sure everything is cool?” Prestia wrote. Browder replied: “Yea I’m alright thanks man.” The two spoke on Wednesday, and Browder did seem fine. On Saturday afternoon, Prestia got a call from Browder’s mother: he had committed suicide.

That night, Prestia and I visited the family’s home in the Bronx. Fifteen relatives—aunts, uncles, cousins—sat crammed together in the front room with his parents and siblings. The mood was alternately depressed, angry, and confused. Two empty bottles of Browder’s antipsychotic drug sat on a table. Was it possible that taking the drug had caused him to commit suicide? Or could he have stopped taking it and become suicidal as a result?

His relatives recounted stories he’d told them about being starved and beaten by guards on Rikers. They spoke about his paranoia, about how he often suspected that the cops or some other authority figures were after him. His mother explained that the night before he told her, “Ma, I can’t take it anymore.” “Kalief, you’ve got a lot of people in your corner,” she told him.


One cousin recalled that when Browder first got home from jail, he would walk to G.E.D. prep class every day, almost an hour each way. Another cousin remembered seeing him seated by the kitchen each morning with his schoolwork spread out before him.

His parents showed me his bedroom on the second floor. Next to his bed was his MacBook Air. (Rosie O’Donnell had given it to him.) A bicycle stood by the closet. There were two holes near the door, which he had made with his fist some months earlier. Mustard-yellow sheets covered his bed. And, to the side of the room, atop a jumble of clothes, there were two mustard-yellow strips that he had evidently torn from his bedsheets.

As his father explained, he’d apparently decided that these torn strips of sheet were not strong enough. That afternoon, at about 12:15 P.M., he went into another bedroom, pulled out the air conditioner, and pushed himself out through the hole in the wall, feet first, with a cord wrapped around his neck. His mother was the only other person home at the time. After she heard a loud thumping noise, she went upstairs to investigate, but couldn’t figure out what had happened. It wasn’t until she went outside to the backyard and looked up that she realized that her youngest child had hanged himself.

That evening, in a room packed with family members, Prestia said, “This case is bigger than Michael Brown!” In that case, in which a police officer shot Brown, an unarmed teen-ager, in Ferguson, Missouri, Prestia recalled that there were conflicting stories about what happened. And the incident took, he said, “one minute in time.” In the case of Kalief Browder, he said, “When you go over the three years that he spent [in jail] and all the horrific details he endured, it’s unbelievable that this could happen to a teen-ager in New York City. He didn’t get tortured in some prison camp in another country. It was right here!”

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Surveillance footage of Kalief Browder being beaten at Rikers Island by prison guards and inmates (in separate incidents).

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/exclusive-video-violence-inside-rikers

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Cpt. Racist Tinypecker in McKinney has resigned.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/0 ... -resigned/

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Cpt. Racist Tinypecker in McKinney has resigned.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/0 ... -resigned/


I'll give him credit for being honorable enough to do that. A Chicago guy would have sued to keep his job and cost the taxpayers a ton more money.

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Tell me again why I should have faith in government.


So, this sort of abuse wouldn't happen, if the police force was privatized?


What don't you understand about the clear choice in trusting the seedy fucks that bought the stupid fucks in government?!?

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Tell me again why I should have faith in government.


So, this sort of abuse wouldn't happen, if the police force was privatized?


What don't you understand about the clear choice in trusting the seedy fucks that bought the stupid fucks in government?!?


I hate that as I grow older and see more, I agree much more with this position.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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Tell me again why I should have faith in government.


So, this sort of abuse wouldn't happen, if the police force was privatized?


What don't you understand about the clear choice in trusting the seedy fucks that bought the stupid fucks in government?!?


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I still like to believe there are 85% good cops out there but that number is just me hoping.


I have a lot of police in my family and it remains the career path of choice. It's a matter of ones ability to still respect people after so many years. It's not easy to deal with the worst aspects of humanity while keeping your faith in humanity. That is even harder in communities where respect for anything is in short supply.

The difference between a green cop and a guy with even ten years can be night/day. But we are either going to say these guys crave control and jump through a ton of hoops to get it or, start out well intentioned and let the job get to them. Either way, it needs to be addressed. And I have no idea how. I think some of this is also societal and involves things we haven't talked about yet.


I was in the military and it was what I expected to do once I returned to civilian life. I've always bee able to experience something from someone else's point of view. And after talking to as many guys on the job as I could, it was clear that it wasn't for me. It was abundantly clear. I don't know how they still attract people to it.

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Chus, really? You couldn't tell which position I was lampooning?

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Chus, really? You couldn't tell which position I was lampooning?


Most likely Denisdman's position.

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. I don't know how they still attract people to it.


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Chus, really? You couldn't tell which position I was lampooning?


Most likely Denisdman's position.

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. I don't know how they still attract people to it.


lower the qualifications


They lowered the age to take the entry exam. It's hardly a golden ticket in a job that will have your every move scrutinized by self professed Fourth Amendment scholars with cell phones cameras.

My point was that we only hear and get outraged about a cop who shoots a guy and keeps his job during the investigation. There are far more who lose their job for stupid shit in this PC society. In fact, the general belief is that it is easier to get a proper defense if you discharge your firearm and hit someone.


The overriding issue with the rate at which cops pull their sidearm is the 21-foot rule. That is the personal safety zone that a cop will defend with deadly force if they feel threatened. Be that by a single human being moving toward them with what they interpret as hostile intent, or a group of teenagers at a pool party. Until we address that antiquated part of the training program, cops will do what they were trained to do in defending their personal space with the pistol they were given to do that with.

Europe doesn't have that problem because they largely removed the pistol from the equation. But let's remember that a kid was killed in London in similar circumstances a few years back and their were riots.

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down country highway in wisconsin appears to be a broken down van with a cop car lights on. I slow down obviously to pass. solitary cop's got one guy in cuffs, boxes and shit falling out of van, he's talking to another guy. You can have that shit. one false move and its lights out.

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down country highway in wisconsin appears to be a broken down van with a cop car lights on. I slow down obviously to pass. solitary cop's got one guy in cuffs, boxes and shit falling out of van, he's talking to another guy. You can have that shit. one false move and its lights out.



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