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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:46 pm

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Oh yeah, and she's claimed to been a victim of racial discrimination from blacks and received threatening letters.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:48 pm

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Nas wrote:

Spmack the blacks that are outraged are annoying. This woman has done more to advance issues that are important to blacks and other minorities than most of them have or ever will. The fact that she identified herself as being black erases all of that. It's silly.

And it is sad that none of that will be remembered because of what she did to get to that position.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:48 pm

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She resigned. How much does your family have to hate you to do what they did? I can't imagine doing that to one of my children.

What if its your daughter, and you have 4 adopted white boys? She's brainwashed one into thinking black people are awful and out to get him . She's disowned you and your wife and telling anyone that will listen she grew up in lake forest and her grandfather was an oil tycoon .

As a single parent I would be devastated. I love my kids unconditionally though. I am confident that I would have enough restraint not to want to embarrass my daughter.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:50 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas wrote:

And it is sad that none of that will be remembered because of what she did to get to that position.

It really is. I believe that says more about us than her though. Of course I could be wrong.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:51 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas wrote:

And it is sad that none of that will be remembered because of what she did to get to that position.

It really is. I believe that says more about us than her though. Of course I could be wrong.

I don't know how her lying is on us, that is squarely on her.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:52 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

I hope you are wrong Nas, as I don't want to be part of a fabrication that helped him secure a position of importance in life. Having importance in society or for a larger position such as this, is not worth lying to get there. Earn it on your own merits, not by lying your way to there.

As the NAACP stated the position isn't given to someone because they are black. The position is given to people who have earned it through hardwork and dedication.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:54 pm

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Her lying is on her. We've just decided that her lie is more significant than the great work she has done to advance minority issues.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:54 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

As the NAACP stated the position isn't given to someone because they are black. The position is given to people who have earned it through hardwork and dedication.

And hopefully about being truthful along the way.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:56 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

As the NAACP stated the position isn't given to someone because they are black. The position is given to people who have earned it through hardwork and dedication.

And hopefully about being truthful along the way.

I fall short every day. If possible I try to look at the body of work unless there was a major crime committed.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:58 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

As the NAACP stated the position isn't given to someone because they are black. The position is given to people who have earned it through hardwork and dedication.

And hopefully about being truthful along the way.

I fall short every day. If possible I try to look at the body of work unless there was a major crime committed.

I hear ya, but I am not sure I would like the precedent it would send to younger people also. Is it ok to do that to get you to a place of power, is that the image that we want portrayed to our youth?

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:03 pm

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Of course not Hawg. I don't think it's a good idea to teach your kids to lie and cheat all the time.

Any man who tries to be good all the time is bound to come to ruin amongst the great number who are not good.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:04 pm

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Nas wrote:

Of course not Hawg. I don't think it's a good idea to teach your kids to lie and cheat all the time.

Any man who tries to be good all the time is bound to ruin amongst the great number who are not good.

Like that saying.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:08 pm

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Nas wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

If you haven't noticed, I am white.
What would I feel if one of my children who were all raised in the suburbs in a middle class family
publicly proclaimed that they were black, had been raised in a teepee and passed off pictures of
one of their siblings as their son?
I'd probably just take it in stride and shrug my shoulders.
No big deal, right?

You can say the same if your child decided they wanted to be the opposite sex. Reality is your actions would be selfish. No doubt I would be hurt if one of my kids acted as if I didn't exist. I wouldn't try to hurt them in return because that would only push them away more. Repairing the relationship would be more important than my hurt feelings.

nas this really isn't at all the same thing. a person who changes their sexual identity doesn't also bring lies about their background with it. the closest comparison was brandon teena and even she didn't try to grandstand about her past to make a point about who she was. and she wound up being murdered for being what she wanted to be. when bruce became caitlyn he didn't suddenly say he was raped, denied things because he was a woman, or anything that goes along with a background of abuse and misogyny.

if what she was doing was some kind of social experiment, like the female's version of "black like me" in order to expose racism, that'd be one thing. because that puts a mirror up to society. it looks like she just used it to get a position, and how much good does that do? there are honest people out there who can do a far better job i'm sure.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:23 pm

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W_Z wrote:

Nas wrote:

SteveSarley wrote:

I doubt she aspired to be head of a local branch of the NAACP. She wanted to do work to advance issues that are important to minority communities. For whatever reason she believes that she identifies best as a black woman or would likely be accepted by many if she was. The reactions we've seen proves she was right.

Bruce and many members of the LGBT community have spent the majority of their lives lying about who they are. God created Bruce as a man. For a long time he truly felt that he was a woman but he lied about it.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:29 pm

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I agree its not about some low pay NAACP job that carries zero power..she's mentally I'll . Her parents are probably worried about her well being..she's crazy .

Nas ... If you had 4 adopted white boys and your biological black daughter brainwashed one boy into thinking blacks were evil and out to get his white ass...and that you and her mother were white and dead, never to mentioned. You'd be pissed ..she's telling fairy tales about her upbringing that were horseshit. Denying your very existence. She has laid false claims about black people threatening her...she's crazy as shit and I'm just glad that crazy bitch doesn't have children .

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:35 pm

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I never denied that I would be hurt and pissed. Clearly I had already lost my daughter for her to do something like that. At that point I would have to decide if it's more important to make her hurt like I am or to find a way to repair our relationship. Having a relationship with my daughter would be more important.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:02 pm

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I guess what has me puzzled is the unconfirmed reports of hate crimes. I don't care what she identifies herself as racially but if she's fabricating threats that's a problem.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:06 pm

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Darkside wrote:

I guess what has me puzzled is the unconfirmed reports of hate crimes. I don't care what she identifies herself as racially but if she's fabricating threats that's a problem.

If those hate crimes are true?

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:08 pm

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Nas wrote:

Darkside wrote:

I guess what has me puzzled is the unconfirmed reports of hate crimes. I don't care what she identifies herself as racially but if she's fabricating threats that's a problem.

If those hate crimes are true?

Almost equally disturbing.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:37 pm

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Nas, you are my guy, but you have to admit if some of this shit is true, it is pretty fucked up. Some of her non-answers are pretty disturbing too.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:53 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas, you are my guy, but you have to admit if some of this shit is true, it is pretty fucked up. Some of her non-answers are pretty disturbing too.

She's not answering questions. Isn't she married to a black man?

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:02 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas, you are my guy, but you have to admit if some of this shit is true, it is pretty fucked up. Some of her non-answers are pretty disturbing too.

She's not answering questions. Isn't she married to a black man?

To be honest, I don't know who she is married to.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:40 am

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She should probably be quiet now.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:42 am

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:30 pm

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Nas wrote:

Darkside wrote:

I guess what has me puzzled is the unconfirmed reports of hate crimes. I don't care what she identifies herself as racially but if she's fabricating threats that's a problem.

If those hate crimes are true?

She wrote the racist hate mail to herself .

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:22 pm

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Senator Elizabeth Warren is a hardcore Apache Indian and she's doin' OK for herself.

Lil' Wompem' smoke 'em peace pipe, pale face!

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

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Senator Elizabeth Warren is a hardcore Apache Indian and she's doin' OK for herself.

Lil' Wompem' smoke 'em peace pipe, pale face!

The post above missed that one.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:50 am

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She is now "Transgender".

Because if you now question her, you question Kaitlyn ....and you are the bad guy...or girl....

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I can't believe we live in a society where people can't advance in an organization solely because of race.

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Post subject: Re: Rachel Dolezal

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:35 am

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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:

I can't believe we live in a society where people can't advance in an organization solely because of race.

or the mindset of race.....are they going to now include that one applications for college?

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