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WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. and Justice Department prosecutors are investigating front-office officials for the St. Louis Cardinals, one of the most successful teams in baseball over the past two decades, for hacking into the internal networks of a rival team to steal closely guarded information about player personnel.

Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said.

The officials did not say which employees were the focus of the investigation or whether the team’s highest-ranking officials were aware of the hacking or authorized it. The investigation is being led by the F.B.I.’s Houston field office and has progressed to the point that subpoenas have been served on the Cardinals and Major League Baseball for electronic correspondence.

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The attack represents the first known case of corporate espionage in which a professional sports team has hacked the network of another team. Illegal intrusions into companies’ networks have become commonplace, but it is generally conducted by hackers operating in foreign countries, like Russia and China, who steal large tranches of data or trade secrets for military equipment and electronics.

Major League Baseball “has been aware of and has fully cooperated with the federal investigation into the illegal breach of the Astros’ baseball operations database,” a spokesman for baseball’s commissioner, Rob Manfred, said in a written statement.

The Cardinals officials under investigation have not been put on leave, suspended or fired. The commissioner’s office is likely to wait until the conclusion of the government’s investigation to determine whether to take disciplinary action against the officials or the team.

The case is a rare mark of ignominy for the Cardinals, one of the sport’s most revered and popular organizations. The team has the best record in baseball this season (42-21), regularly commands outsize television ratings and has reached the National League Championship Series nine times since 2000. The Cardinals, who last won the World Series in 2011, have 11 titles over all, second only to the Yankees.

Their owner, Bill DeWitt, is a highly regarded executive who last year was in charge of the search committee for a new commissioner to replace the retiring Bud Selig.

Law enforcement officials believe the hacking was executed by vengeful front-office employees for the Cardinals hoping to wreak havoc on the work of Jeff Luhnow, the Astros’ general manager who had been a successful and polarizing executive with the Cardinals until 2011.

From 1994 to 2012, the Astros and the Cardinals were division rivals, in the National League. For a part of that time, Mr. Luhnow was a Cardinals executive, primarily handling scouting and player development. One of many innovative thinkers drawn to the sport by the “Moneyball” phenomenon, he was credited with building baseball’s best minor league system, as well as drafting several players who would become linchpins of the Cardinals’ 2011 World Series-winning team.

The Astros hired Mr. Luhnow as general manager in December 2011, and he quickly began applying his unconventional approach to running a baseball team. In an exploration of the team’s radical transformation, Bloomberg Business called it “a project unlike anything baseball has seen before.”

Under Mr. Luhnow, the Astros have accomplished a striking turnaround; they are in first place in the American League West division. But in 2013, before their revival at the major league level, their internal deliberations about statistics and players were compromised, law enforcement officials said.

The intrusion did not appear to be sophisticated, the law enforcement officials said. When Mr. Luhnow was with the Cardinals, the organization built a computer network, called Redbird, to house all of their baseball operations information — including scouting reports and player personnel information. After leaving to join the Astros, and bringing some front-office personnel with him from the Cardinals, Houston created a similar program known as Ground Control.

Ground Control contained the Astros’ “collective baseball knowledge,” according to a Bloomberg Business article published last year. The program took a series of variables and “weights them according to the values determined by the team’s statisticians, physicist, doctors, scouts and coaches,” the article said.

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Investigators believe Cardinals officials, concerned that Mr. Luhnow had taken their idea and proprietary baseball information to the Astros, examined a master list of passwords used by Mr. Luhnow and the other officials who had joined the Astros when they worked for the Cardinals. The Cardinals officials are believed to have used those passwords to gain access to the Astros’ network, law enforcement officials said.

Last year, some of the information was posted anonymously online, according to an article on Deadspin. Among the details that were exposed were trade discussions that the Astros had with other teams. Mr. Luhnow was asked at the time whether the breach would affect how he dealt with other teams. “Today I used a pencil and paper in all my conversations,” he said.

Believing that the Astros’ network had been compromised by a rogue hacker, Major League Baseball notified the F.B.I., and the authorities in Houston opened an investigation. Agents soon found that the Astros’ network had been entered from a computer at a home that some Cardinals officials had lived in. The agents then turned their attention to the team’s front office.


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Sounds like tit for tat:

Investigators believe Cardinals officials, concerned that Mr. Luhnow had taken their idea and proprietary baseball information to the Astros, examined a master list of passwords used by Mr. Luhnow and the other officials who had joined the Astros when they worked for the Cardinals. The Cardinals officials are believed to have used those passwords to gain access to the Astros’ network, law enforcement officials said.

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1234 strikes again. Awful password choice, Mr. Luhnow.

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1, 2, 3, 4, 5? That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!

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denisdman wrote:
Sounds like tit for tat:

Investigators believe Cardinals officials, concerned that Mr. Luhnow had taken their idea and proprietary baseball information to the Astros, examined a master list of passwords used by Mr. Luhnow and the other officials who had joined the Astros when they worked for the Cardinals. The Cardinals officials are believed to have used those passwords to gain access to the Astros’ network, law enforcement officials said.


Sort of... but leaking it to Deadspin was an odd choice.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:32 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:43 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:50 am 
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ALMOST every team these days has its own little IT war room. You better believe everyone has hackers (Except the Sox).

Lets just say I am 100% sure, that when I see the cub crew of guys going to lunch, they are the Baseball WAR guys. They have seperate Uniforms? Sweats? Jackets? Etc...have different badges, etc.

You know these guys are a different department from everyone else.

I think its a good idea to foster that kind of TEAM mentality in these guys, however that WIN or DIE thing dies evolve and I can only imagine the attempst at hacking every team has done.

NEWS: Chicago Cubs hired Ah Bair, 12, from Macau, CHINA to work as Special Advisor to Jed Hoyer!

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This is great

Yes it is!

I don't know how many arrogant Cardinals fans I have heard complain about the Patriots and their cheating and it is always put in the perspective of teams like the Cards do things the right way.

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I am OK with all of the 'cheating'. Strategy is what I call it.

Its the modern age stealing signs, which I still never figured out why that was such a crime?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:48 pm 
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who would want to hack into the Sox's systems? Maybe for a good laugh. :lol:

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Drew Magery nailed it

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By now, you know that the St. Louis Cardinals—the sports equivalent of the Duggar clan—are currently under investigation by the FBI for hacking into a Houston Astros database. (The FBI! That means they’re fucked.) And not only did they allegedly hack into another team’s system, but they allegedly did it in the clumsiest, most easily detectable way possible. Unlike other over-covered sports scandals, this one includes actual crime! Real cheating! A legitimate threat to the integrity of the game! THIS IS NOT WINNING THE RIGHT WAY.

The Cards are almost certainly going to handle this scandal by finding a patsy—THE BALLBOY. They’ll identify him as a rogue agent (“What was he doing taking that laptop into the shitter?!”), and then throw him under the bus, which I assume is some kind of tacky tour bus driven in from Branson. And then they will spin into some bullshit about how sticking to the Cardinal Way allowed them to get rid of all those pesky bad apples, and how they’ve proudly taken the necessary steps to ensure that sure this never happens again, and how anyone gloating over the Cardinals’ misfortune is just a sad, pitiable, BUTTHURT person …


But they’re not getting away with this so easily. Not with the feds on their ass, and not with the rest of the sporting world (okay, me) eager to punish them after suffering through YEARS of the team and their fans being a bunch of smarmy, phony assholes. The Cardinals are the fucking worst, and now we have proof! Proof that the most self-righteous people are always the dirtiest! It is the Scrappening. It is Schadenfreude Christmas, and you people deserve to EAT SHIT. Fistfuls of shit. Great, big handfuls of liquid shit. I mean, come on, Will Leitch …


Yep, just SIMPLE HACKIN’ FOLK. Didn’t even know what they was doin’! These newfangled iPuters and Gizdroids are so confusing! We identify as Amish! Our precious Cardinals would never WILLINGLY wage a sophisticated cyberwar against the rest of baseball! These boys were just in it for the purity of hacking!

There is, of course, only one course of action that baseball can take in the wake of this hilarious, impossibly joyful development: CONTRACT THE CARDINALS. That’s right. Destroy them. Raze their stadium. Arrest their players and fans. Intern them all in some kind of horrible Bud Light Mixx Tail tent (with a dress code), where they can wander around in a daze, whispering to each other, “They said it could never happen here, but it DID.”

That is what the Cardinals deserve for lording their superiority over the rest of baseball for decades now. No more Busch. No more best fans in baseball. No more computer hacks that let them get by superior teams in the playoffs and then pass it off as a feat of sheer guile. No more insincere clapping for the other team. No more Bernie Mickelsauce writing deliberately terrible columns in the hopes of getting them fisked. No more custom Darren Wilson jerseys. No more drunken Tony La Russa letting his cat drive.

This is the appropriate course of action for an organization and fanbase that have gone out of their way to brand themselves as special and different from the rest of us. Oh, you’re different, all right. Thanks to the feds, now we know: you’re worse than any of them, and you deserve to BURN. BURN IN A FIRE LARGE ENOUGH TO RIVAL YOUR CITY’S MANY OTHER TIRE FIRES.

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Barack Hussein Obama's FBI and DOJ apparently ran out of terrorists to pursue. Who the fuck cares.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
By now, you know that the St. Louis Cardinals—the sports equivalent of the Duggar clan.

Well that's really fucking stupid.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
By now, you know that the St. Louis Cardinals—the sports equivalent of the Duggar clan.

Well that's really fucking stupid.

Drew Magery's words, not mine

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rogers park bryan wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
By now, you know that the St. Louis Cardinals—the sports equivalent of the Duggar clan.

Well that's really fucking stupid.

Drew Magery's words, not mine

Just to clarify

No doubt...just the way the quote function made it look without me keeping the entire article in there.


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Don't lie, RPB. You feel the same way.

Didnt say he was wrong

Look, all Im saying is if the Duggars were gonna pick a team to root for...


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redskingreg wrote:
Don't lie, RPB. You feel the same way.

Didnt say he was wrong

Look, all Im saying is if the Duggars were gonna pick a team to root for...

That's not fair, everybody from Arkansas roots for the Cardinals, except me.

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If they can fuck over as big a corrupt piece of shit as FIFA, the Cardinals have no chance.


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Hawg Ass wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Don't lie, RPB. You feel the same way.

Didnt say he was wrong

Look, all Im saying is if the Duggars were gonna pick a team to root for...

That's not fair, everybody from Arkansas roots for the Cardinals, except me.

Hawg

Everyone that's left in Arkansas IS a Duggar...you had the good sense to get out...until you wound up in Wisconsin.

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i guess Luhnow is quite the character. seems like he's hated by everyone :lol:

i hope theo changes his cubbie password from his stolen red sox database.

what a bizarre shitshow


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Real question is how the Cardinals will be punished by MLB? Draft picks? how many? They have a loaded farm system and the best record in Baseball, so no reason to go easy on them. I will guess they have their 1st round pick taken away for 2016 and 2017.

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Couldn't happen to a nicer org.
I don't hate the Cards like my wife does. Some cardinals fan took a swing at her at Wrigley some years back. She bloody hates the cardinals now.
Me? I hate the Padres. Fucking Steve Garvey. Prick.

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If they can fuck over as big a corrupt piece of shit as FIFA, the Cardinals have no chance.


they certainly showed no mercy at ruby ridge.


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If they can fuck over as big a corrupt piece of shit as FIFA, the Cardinals have no chance.


they certainly showed no mercy at ruby ridge.

Or Waco.

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Couldn't happen to a nicer org.
I don't hate the Cards like my wife does. Some cardinals fan took a swing at her at Wrigley some years back. She bloody hates the cardinals now.
Me? I hate the Padres. Fucking Steve Garvey. Prick.

I hate the Padres as well. Fuck Leon Durwood and his gatorade glove also.


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Are not the Cubs trying to emulate the Cards with the "Cub's Way"?

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Are not the Cubs trying to emulate the Cards with the "Cub's Way"?

No.

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Are not the Cubs trying to emulate the Cards with the "Cub's Way"?

No.


Then what is this BS that Bernsie spouts about Theo having all the minors and coaches in line with the "way" as they drafted and brought these kids along fundamentally? Or was it bullshit and was it just draft kids that can smash the ball and buy/trade pitching later?

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