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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:34 pm 
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"I have defended you to critics & Twitter followers when they say you're not a legit news source. If you weren't, so much of the media wouldn't be citing you as their source for stories. I never minded any story you've reported on me, as I take responsibility for my actions & accept the consequences. That being said, Myself & I dare say countless others are completely disgusted with your policy of releasing 911 calls from families desperately pleading for someone to save their loved one. The recent release of the 911 Call from the family of Dusty Rhodes & the release of Ric Flair's 911 call when his son Reid died is shameful & sickening. You can defend it as being newsworthy, but in reality you're just feeding the sickening thirst for this kind of voyeurism in today's society. The late, great Randy Savage's father(also deceased) Angelo Poffo, who wrestled as The Mi$er had a saying that went "Where money lies, Honor dies." Is there really that much money made by airing these calls, so your followers can hear these people at arguably the worst moments of their lives? Maybe there is enough money in it for you to trade in your honor. I'm usually a fan, but completely disgusted by your lack of discretion. Truly, Sean Waltman"


Well said X-pac, well said!

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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For my money, Dave Zirin (not surprisingly) wrote the most interesting story about the significance of Dusty's career.

The Irresistible Realness of Dusty Rhodes: http://www.thenation.com/blog/209793/irresistible-realness-dusty-rhodes

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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For my money, Dave Zirin (not surprisingly) wrote the most interesting story about the significance of Dusty's career.

The Irresistible Realness of Dusty Rhodes: http://www.thenation.com/blog/209793/irresistible-realness-dusty-rhodes



This article and a few others provide clarity if you were a fan of those yrs. I always liked NWA and Big South wrestling better than the WWF. It was all fake but the promos were off the charts and the wrestling was just better.

I always felt that the WWF demeaned Dusty Rhodes once he attempted to transition from WCW but now i know why. I was a fan of Dusty Rhodes but he was not my favorite wrestler growing up. There were a number of wrestlers I liked better but there was a certain realness to him that was unmistakenable. I now understand where he got his cadence from also

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:50 am 
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"I have defended you to critics & Twitter followers when they say you're not a legit news source. If you weren't, so much of the media wouldn't be citing you as their source for stories. I never minded any story you've reported on me, as I take responsibility for my actions & accept the consequences. That being said, Myself & I dare say countless others are completely disgusted with your policy of releasing 911 calls from families desperately pleading for someone to save their loved one. The recent release of the 911 Call from the family of Dusty Rhodes & the release of Ric Flair's 911 call when his son Reid died is shameful & sickening. You can defend it as being newsworthy, but in reality you're just feeding the sickening thirst for this kind of voyeurism in today's society. The late, great Randy Savage's father(also deceased) Angelo Poffo, who wrestled as The Mi$er had a saying that went "Where money lies, Honor dies." Is there really that much money made by airing these calls, so your followers can hear these people at arguably the worst moments of their lives? Maybe there is enough money in it for you to trade in your honor. I'm usually a fan, but completely disgusted by your lack of discretion. Truly, Sean Waltman"


Well said X-pac, well said!


Eh ... he's basically saying he defended them until they did something that made him mad.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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Tall Midget wrote:
For my money, Dave Zirin (not surprisingly) wrote the most interesting story about the significance of Dusty's career.

The Irresistible Realness of Dusty Rhodes: http://www.thenation.com/blog/209793/irresistible-realness-dusty-rhodes

Thanks for posting that article, good stuff.

Only thing I did not agree with was the last paragraph where he connects Dusty with Kevin Owens. Not sure on that one...

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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I only knew Dusty Rhodes from WCW Saturday Night and old tapes of WWF pay-per-views, so I never really understood his relevance. Good reads lately.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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Wasn't Dusty Rhodes in the NWO for like a week back when they'd stick anyone in the NWO? I remember him turning heel on, like, Rick Martel or something, revealing an NWO shirt, and then he disappeared without ever doing anything again. WCW always had more people than they knew what to do with.


It was a Scott Hall v. Larry Zsybsko pay per view match. (Boy was WCW mismanaged. Who wanted to see Larry Z wrestle at that point?)

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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I only knew Dusty Rhodes from WCW Saturday Night and old tapes of WWF pay-per-views, so I never really understood his relevance. Good reads lately.


Dusty was great on commentary. His best gift to us al,l was this Botchamania moment while at the announce table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpzfaKFAB7c


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Matches Malone wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
I only knew Dusty Rhodes from WCW Saturday Night and old tapes of WWF pay-per-views, so I never really understood his relevance. Good reads lately.


Dusty was great on commentary. His best gift to us al,l was this Botchamania moment while at the announce table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpzfaKFAB7c


His feud with the 4 Horsemen was legendary. It is wear the phrase stomp a mudhole and walk it dry came from.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:46 pm 
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Matches Malone wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
I only knew Dusty Rhodes from WCW Saturday Night and old tapes of WWF pay-per-views, so I never really understood his relevance. Good reads lately.


Dusty was great on commentary. His best gift to us al,l was this Botchamania moment while at the announce table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpzfaKFAB7c


His feud with the 4 Horsemen was legendary. It is wear the phrase stomp a mudhole and walk it dry came from.

you sure on that one?

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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I am almost positive. Why do you ask?

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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I am almost positive. Why do you ask?

just hadn't heard that it originated with Dusty

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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I am almost positive. Why do you ask?

just hadn't heard that it originated with Dusty


not with him ,about him. It was the term Arn used to describe what the Horsemen did to him.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:40 pm 
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watched the show on WWE network on Dusty tonight that they put together. Had an interview with Ric Flair in it following his death. Very touching stuff. You could tell how much Dusty meant to Flair. One of the greatest rivalries in the history of wrestling

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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I always felt that the WWF demeaned Dusty Rhodes once he attempted to transition from WCW but now i know why. I was a fan of Dusty Rhodes but he was not my favorite wrestler growing up. There were a number of wrestlers I liked better but there was a certain realness to him that was unmistakenable. I now understand where he got his cadence from also


It started a couple years before he even got there ... why do you think Ted DiBiase's gopher was named Virgil?

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I always felt that the WWF demeaned Dusty Rhodes once he attempted to transition from WCW but now i know why. I was a fan of Dusty Rhodes but he was not my favorite wrestler growing up. There were a number of wrestlers I liked better but there was a certain realness to him that was unmistakenable. I now understand where he got his cadence from also


It started a couple years before he even got there ... why do you think Ted DiBiase's gopher was named Virgil?



At the time I didn't make the connection. I knew that was Dusty Rhodes's first name but I didn't know that the NWA/WWF feud ran that deep. McMahon is one vindictive son of a bitch. Virgil was one of the most demeaned wrestling characters of all time. There were all types of undertones and stereotypes associated with his storyline.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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watched the show on WWE network on Dusty tonight that they put together. Had an interview with Ric Flair in it following his death. Very touching stuff. You could tell how much Dusty meant to Flair. One of the greatest rivalries in the history of wrestling



The thing that separated guys like Flair and Dusty from Hulk Hogan was that they didn't mind getting guys over. They would job out in order to advance the career of other wrestlers. There are a lot of guys that would not have done that.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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watched the show on WWE network on Dusty tonight that they put together. Had an interview with Ric Flair in it following his death. Very touching stuff. You could tell how much Dusty meant to Flair. One of the greatest rivalries in the history of wrestling



The thing that separated guys like Flair and Dusty from Hulk Hogan was that they didn't mind getting guys over. They would job out in order to advance the career of other wrestlers. There are a lot of guys that would not have done that.

Agree completely. That is one of the things that I loved about the mid 80s NWA. They had a ton of great wrestlers and everyone seemed to be on the same page and wanted to put on the best show and make the most money together.

Flair, Dusty, Tully, Arn, Ole, Road Warriors, Midnight Express, RR Express, Magnum, Nikita, Windham...

Probably still my favorite time in wrestling.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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watched the show on WWE network on Dusty tonight that they put together. Had an interview with Ric Flair in it following his death. Very touching stuff. You could tell how much Dusty meant to Flair. One of the greatest rivalries in the history of wrestling



The thing that separated guys like Flair and Dusty from Hulk Hogan was that they didn't mind getting guys over. They would job out in order to advance the career of other wrestlers. There are a lot of guys that would not have done that.

Agree completely. That is one of the things that I loved about the mid 80s NWA. They had a ton of great wrestlers and everyone seemed to be on the same page and wanted to put on the best show and make the most money together.

Flair, Dusty, Tully, Arn, Ole, Road Warriors, Midnight Express, RR Express, Magnum, Nikita, Windham...

Probably still my favorite time in wrestling.
mine too. The 1980's NWA was my favorite time in wrestling also. Great matches and shows. I could never quite get with the WWF. I would watch but it never moved me like the NWA. The wrestling was sub par. Too Hulk centric also.

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I used to like mid South wrestling also. Once they merged with the NWA during the mid 80's it was probably the best collection of wrestlers ever assembled. That roster was a motherfucker

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Virgil was one of the most demeaned wrestling characters of all time. There were all types of undertones and stereotypes associated with his storyline.


There is no doubting McMahon's vindictiveness. The guy left millions on the table with the WCW "Invasion" just to stick it to those who were not his creations.

As for the undertones and stereotypes, there's also no doubting those as well. Growing up I noticed the Samoan wrestlers were always wild and savage. Sometimes they had trouble even speaking. You had the Virgil character which you dressed. Tony Atlas became Samba Simba which was cringeworthy, especially for anyone who remembered him as Tony Atlas just a few years prior.

He loves the idea of what he thinks are Hillbillies and backwoods folk. He's been pushing those types of "characters" for over 30 years now. How about the Mexicools? He literally had them coming to the ring on riding lawnmowers.

Then there was Shelton Benjamin. One of the best in ring workers at the time, so what does Vince do? He gives him a stereotypical "Mama" in an effort to get over. Can't forget making Kanyon dress up as Boy George and singing "Do you really want to hurt me?" while coming out of a box.

And of course there was the whole Booker T. fiasco. Vince called him a troglodyte and then HHH continuously buried the guy all while referring to him and his wife Sharmell as "you people."

One only has to look at the whole Bill Demott situation down in Florida. You can only get away with that type of behavior if the people at the very top are okay with it.


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I know with all the money WWE is is making and worth I keep wondering why Jackson and Sharpton have not done the usual shakedown routines already unless they are being paid off under the table all silent like. There are some real brutal and offensive black stereotypes the E constantly uses.

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 Post subject: Re: Dusty Rhodes
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If you are a Dusty fan you will want to check out the Dusty Stories segment the WWE network did last night. Lawler, Flair, Arn, JJ, and Michael Hayes sharing great stories about Dusty. It is very good

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