I am not arguing that the best way to dispatch a large number of unarmed people is with a gun. Some of the examples of the murders/suicides in the article the weapon of choice was not a gun, however. I have always been dubious of the over prescribing of anti-depressants in many cases, especially before the mind has had time to develop. I don't think it's debatable these type of crimes have been on the rise since doctors have been doling out these mind altering meds like candy. Christ, you can't go one commercial break without being told to ask your doctor about this wonderful new drug to help you cope with life. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they aren't neccessy in some cases. I think our society is over medicated. Many doctors are nothing but shills for the pharmaceutical companies.

I can't comment on the FoxNews narrative, as I don't watch that channel at all. I'll take your word for it.

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We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer

Right there with you on every word.

Don't fall down and break a hip today old man.

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Agree wholeheartedly.

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perhaps it is debatable.
http://ideas.time.com/2013/09/18/navy-yard-whiplash-are-killings-going-up-or-down/

I'd also like to know if these meds are prescribed as frequently in other countries.

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“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

I wondered that, too, Zippy. Off the top of my head, I would say no. Most other countries have a better approach to treatment of certain things than the US, IMO.

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We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer

No worries, Mr. Crest. I've spent most of the day in my recliner watching baseball and golf.

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We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer

Dave Cullen wrote a decent book that supports the above about Klebold and Harris.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-kor ... 80613.html

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Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

Good read. Some people are just bad. We can only go through life hoping that we do not happen upon them when they break.

Dan, every time I see you post I think of the line, He was wearing my Harvard tie. Can you believe it? My Harvard tie. Like oh, sure he went to Harvard.

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We all have private ails. The troublemakers are they who need public cures for their private ails.- Eric Hoffer

brooks brown was a friend that had a falling out with eric and then reconciled before the massacre. even brown said he wanted to 'kill the school', not specific targets. he just hated the world, and i don't at all believe it was for "vengeance". it was to vindicate who he was, so he thought. he didn't live in reality anymore.

If he was trying to start a race war, he must be disappointed. South Carolina will be removing the confederate flag from the capitol, and Walmart, Amazon, eBay (among others) have banned the sale of confederate flags. And Nascar is starting to feel the pressure...will be interesting to see whether they eventually impose a ban on flags.

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South Postpones Rising Again For Yet Another Year



HUNTSVILLE, AL–For the 135th straight year since Gen. Robert E. Lee's surrender at Appomattox, representatives for the South announced Monday that the region has postponed plans to rise again.
Three of the estimated 45 million Southerners who have not yet gotten around to rising again.

"Make no mistake, the South shall rise again," said Knox Pritchard, president of the Huntsville-based Alliance Of Confederate States. "But we're just not quite ready to do it now. Hopefully, we'll be able to rise again real soon, maybe even in 2001."

Pritchard's fellow Southerners shared his confidence.

"Yes, sir. The South will rise again, and when it does, I'll be right up front waving the Stars and Bars," said Dock Mullins of Decatur, GA. "But first, I gotta get my truck fixed and get that rusty old stove out of my yard."

"Lord willing, and the creek don't rise, we gonna rise again," said Sumter, SC, radiator technician Hap Slidell, who describes himself as "Southern by the grace of God." "I don't know exactly when we're gonna do it, but one of these days, we're gonna show them Yankees how it's done."

"Save your Confederate dollars," Slidell added. "You can bet on that."

The Deep South states of Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, Louisiana, and Tennessee consistently rank at the bottom of the nation in a wide variety of statistical categories, including literacy, infant mortality, hospital beds, toilet-paper sales, and shoe usage. Even so, some experts believe the region could be poised for a renaissance.
The Kentucky state capitol.

"The way things stand, things in the Deep South almost have to get better. Otherwise, the people who live there will devolve into preverbal, overall-wearing sub-morons within a century," said Professor Dennis Lassiter of Princeton University. "Either Southerners will start improving themselves, or they'll be sold to middle-class Asians as pets."

"My constituents are decent, hard-working folk," said Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC), despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, in his 22nd annual "Next Year, By God!" speech on the steps of North Carolina's capitol building. "We are a proud people who mayn't have all that much fancy-pants book-learnin', but we live and die with pride in our proud heritage and the dignity of our forebears."

Helms' speech was met with nearly 25 minutes of enthusiastic hoots and rebel yells by the 15,000 drunk, unemployed tobacco pickers in attendance.

Though Southerners are overwhelmingly in favor of rising again, few were able to provide specific details of the rising-again process.

"I don't know, I reckon we'll build us a bunch of big, fancy buildins and pave us up a whole mess of roads," said Bobby Lee Fuller of Greenville, MS. "I ain't exactly sure where we're gonna get the money for that, but when Johnny Reb sets his mind to something, you best get out of his way."

"Oh, it'll happen, sure as the sun come up in the morning," said Buford Comstock, 26, a student at Over 'N' Back Diesel Driving School in Union City, TN. "The South is gonna rise up, just as soon as we get together and get all our shit back in one sock. Then, look out, Northerners!"

"Yesiree," Comstock added, "one day soon, the Mason-Dixon Line will be the boundary between a great nation and one whose time done passed."

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

while i don't care whether people want to buy a confederate flag for themselves or anything, it's kind of nice to see that the state may be removing it from flying on flagpoles out in plain sight. i still don't know how people could be proud of that symbol. at the very basic level it represents losing.

Do people think that the confederate flag is a sign of proud announcing racism or do they just like to drink beer and listen to Toby Keith after all these years? Either way they lost the war it should not be officially flown anywhere.

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Elections have consequences.

Same with any Native American heritage symbolism. Get rid of that shit, ya losers!!

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native americans didn't defect from a colonized union of states. they were exterminated by colonists and their lands were taken against their will. that really needed to be pointed out as a difference between the two?

or are you being...something...

They didn't lose.
They are taking a long break. Sorta like a cricket match.

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French & Indian War. The majority of Native American tribes sided with the French. They lost.

So yes...there was a war and yes...they lost.

Let's completely eradicate the history and culture of every group of people that have lost a war. I like it.

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It represents losing and treasonous secession on a basic level. I don't understand how the "Yay 'murica" crowd, can also wave the stars and bars.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Ignorance is Strength.

Well I wouldn't exactly say it is your strength.

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http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

you need to read more...

Th Anti-Gun violence movement is very lucrative. I wonder what has been going on with all this money. Two years no plans and nothing to tell us about.


One Year After Anti-Violence Summit, The Shootings Continue

CHICAGO (CBS) — Promises made and promises still to be kept.

Violence continues to plague a South Side neighborhood, where exactly one year ago, civic and corporate leaders joined with elected officials, vowing to combat inner-city violence.

But in the area where that meeting took place, there have been nearly as many shootings already this year, as there were in all of 2014.

The most recent was just Thursday.

Police continue to patrol the area around 79th Street and Langley, 24 hours after three men were shot by several others who jumped from a car and opened fire.

“They are shooting a lot,” said Bernard Ison. “Like almost every day. ”

“They don’t have nothing else to do but shoot,” said Jovan Johnson. “Chicago should not be that way.”

But it still is–exactly one year after politicians and community leaders came together at Congressman Bobby Rush’s South Side offices to try to stop the killing.

“Those of us who live and work here have to come out of our four walls and begin to make change,” said Pastor John Hannah, of New Life Covenant Church.

It has been two years since First Lady Michelle Obama came to Chicago to kick off a campaign that has since raised an estimated $40 million for anti-violence programs.

Yet according to the Chicago Tribune, less than 10 percent of that money has been put to work.

Congressman Rush was asked why.

“It takes time to do something meaningful. And to do something that really will work for the long haul,” he tells CBS 2 Political Producer Ed Marshall.

“It’s taking a little time, and we’re going to be announcing something fairly soon.”

Rush did not want to provide any details.

And others are asking why one year after the summit gangs are still shooting.

Deacon Cicero Moore III said: “I don’t know if they gave up on it but things they said they were going to do: Take the guns. They did that. But they haven’t taken everything from them.”

It is impossible to say whether they really tried and failed or simply didn’t try hard enough.

However, despite the investment in time and money pledged, the violence continues

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Trial set for June 11, 2016...these cases take way too long.

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Not Guilty