What am I doing tomorrow? I feel Like I have to make some decisions soon but really in the grand scheme of things they aren't important.

I believe that most people spend way too much time worrying about others & what they think or do...like you & the gays. People should think more about themselves & less about others.

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Dunno. I get the feeling, much of the time you think too much of yourself and not enough of others.

Again...people spend way too much time worrying about others & what they do & what they think. Let others live their lives. Let others do as they want & please, Facebook & Twitter are the worst & I refuse to use either one.

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Swung on and belted Spaulding.

When you don't care what other people do, then it stands to reason that you wouldn't come here and complain about things that they do.

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Chus, Gross indecency? As the LGBT community keeps comparing themselves to the civil rights movement then lets look and treat them like it. We have arrested people just this year for putting a hangmans noose in a public park. Look at the firestorm going on right now over the Battle Flag of the Confederacy. They with acts like that are going out of their way to offend people. If I in my front yard in a mixed area flew a confed flag just to piss off my neighbors shouldn't I get some blow black? When the Nazis wanted to march didn't they have counter marches? This type of stuff shows that they want no peaceful coexistence with real Christians( not the fake ones who throw out a good portion of Jesus teachings just so they can fill the pews) . They tried to pull down Chick-Fil-A for one mans beliefs and look at what they are doing not saying. Don't we say actions speak louder than words?
I think Chus and I had out mak\jor fights due to McNown.

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We don't arrest people for offending Christians. It was easy to avoid the Pride Parade if one wanted to do so. I didn't see any activity like that until Mike posted those pictures. It's really easy to not get offended by all of this.

I'm not blaming McNown for the way things used to be. I am/was responsible for my own behavior.

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Hey Scorehead, when you were younger, you used to dress yourself and go where you wanted;
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True but just because you do not see it does not mean it is not going on. That defense is not valid. The German people tried that after WW2 to explain the Holocaust so that defense is invalid, try again.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Why don't we just agree to disagree?

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Sir, disagrement is cool. You also have to allow for people to be offended. That is the crux of this argument. The LGBT community is trying to have both sides. They say oh we are just like everyone else, yet they act like this not just on Pride day but every day. Go walk around in Boys town. Go into the clubs ,esp the manhole or whatever they call it now.
You want to know how fucked up this world is? Satanism is a recognized religion in the Royal Navy. Think about that.
You just do not want to admit what the LGBT endgame it. They are already forcing people to cater,photograph and host their weddings. How much further is it to forcing religious institutions to be forced into preforming the ceremony?
This is not equality that they want, they want superiority. A special interest group making enough noise that it gets in the end its way. This is just another illustration showing we no longer live in a democracy. The majority no longer rules.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Many of these same arguments were made against interracial weddings 40+ years ago. I know some have genuine religious concerns but I tend to believe bigotry and ignorance is the reason most people oppose same sex marriages just like it was for interracial marriages.

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GO BEARS!!!

If I can't discriminate against the blacks and the gays, my religious freedom has been taken away.

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No to connect the two is wrong.
Black people want to be treated equal and that is all they want. This is something entirely different. I just can not equate the two because of I just don't know. Even though I have and still have friends who are of the LGBT persuasion I still think it is morally wrong. It is not my call to condemn them ,that is The Lords call in the end just as it is his call on my soul.
If it such a natural act then why is it only in Humans that we see it/ if it is morally okay then why do the majority of religions condemn it? I am all for equality and letting people live their lives as long as they do not try to impose their will on others but to me that is what this whole thing seems to be. People in over 19 states have got off their collective asses and voted in overwhelming majorities to say they where against same sex marriage. California supposedly the most liberal state voted against same sex, yet the Federal judicial system reversed the peoples will. That is not cool. I once again point out the first couple of lines in the Deceleration of Independence about Government not working for the good of the people, it seems more and more we are getting to a point where we might just have to take up arms and overthrow the assholes who are running the government right now.

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The thing that has always bothered me is not same sex marriage but the right of Gay couples to adopt. It's hard enough for a kid growing up and hoping to get through his school years and fitting in. I guarantee that kids today of same sex couples have to go through the grind of the teasing and bullying associated with being different in schools across this nation today. The psychological problems of kids of same sex couples is one issue I never hear about in the liberal press.

Ultimately,I believe a loving home for a child is better than no home. I'm just saying it's rough sledding in a same sex household because our society is still not accepting.

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I'm not a big believer in slippery slopes, but that the the primary problem IMO. Sure a gay home is better than no home, but third-party breeding of babies is abhorent under any circumstance.

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As long as they live in Oak Park theyll be fine jimmy. Make that western Oak Park just to be safe.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Can you link a study that shows children with gay parents have more psychological problems, than children in "traditional" homes? Or is this just more claptrap about gay marriage leading to the destruction of our society?

What about kids who grow up in traditional homes, with abusive parent(s)? If you saw a few stories of kids growing up in households with a father who beat his wife and kids, would you point to heterosexual marriage as the problem? I'm guessing not.

I know plenty of people who grew up "traditional" homes, and are as fucked up as can be.

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Why would a gay couple want to buy a wedding cake or be photographed by a bigoted vendor? Alternatively, why would a photographer or baker decline to profit from a gay wedding? This should be such a non-issue. I can't believe people are this easily offended. Just because my religion tells me Jesus is our savior does not mean I harbor ill will towards those who believe in some different religion or have no religion at all.

Conservatives continue to drive me away because for all their claims about wanting small government, they sure talk a lot about how government should only reflect their values. I prefer to keep government completely out of religion and respect anyone's right to practice as they please. They won't make the Catholic Church marry gays, and it causes me no concern if our government allows gays to wed in civil ceremonies. Thank goodness I finally saw the light on this issue as I will readily admit I used to oppose gay marriage.

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Chus, serious question.
You always seem to take the contrary point of view. Do you think that people have a right to be offended by the left side of the fence or is it only the right side of the fence that can cause outrage?

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Chas, you can be offended by gay marriage, but why? It's not worth the energy. Just respect the difference of opinion.

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As I have stated. I am okay with it. What I am not okay with is the forcing of acceptance of it. Of not allowing people to not participate in the practice. I do think it should be called something else as marriage is a mostly religious term.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I haven't taken a Contrarian point of view. The majority of Americans support gay marriage.

Conservatives are always laughing at liberals, and often rightly so, for being so easily offended. I find it hilarious that they are whining about being so offended now. Offended because gay people have the same rights as straight people. I'm not so sure what is offensive about equality. "All men are created equal", or something something. And don't even get me started on the idea of small government, which conservatives claim to love so much, but have completely abandoned on this issue.

If it truly is a religious objection, then he who objects better be following ALL of the teachings in the bible. Every one of them. No cherry picking, otherwise it is justification of bigotry, IMO. Complaining about the religious imagery PittMike spent lots of time researching and posting, and calling for the arrest of all involved, is getting close to Muslims complaining about cartoon drawings of the prophet.

Bringing up Hitler and Satan, shows that you really aren't okay with it, as you claim.

There has never been an instance where a gay person, or gay couple, has ever had any negative effect on my life. I suspect this will not change with this Supreme Court decision.

Gay marriage isn't mandatory, it's just an option. You don't have to marry a man. You don't have to attend a gay wedding. You can still go to a church that shares your idea of "traditional marriage". You don't have to walk around Boys Town. And no, legalizing gay marriage will not lead to people marrying animals or children.

C'est la vie.

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I acquired my marriage license from the county, not the church.

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Really the majority based on what? According to voting results then you are incorrect. The reason we had to have the Supreme Court rule on this is because the Majority voted to make same sex marriage illegal. But then the LGBT mafia who has access to some serious cash and public speakers went and took it to court until they got the results of a legally binding election overturned. That is what I find most disturbing is that this sets a precedent,not that it has not been done before by this court, that the will of the people does not matter. That One person one vote does not matter. That some peoples opinion counts for more than others. I think the reason this is such a hot button topic is that normal people not just those on the right are waking up and taking notice of what the left is really up to and are going wait a minute we need to put a stop to this.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

jeezus who was that?

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make more sense for well-to-do fathers to marry their sons and thereby pass on their estates 100% tax free.