The trade was bad. Love was what most of us thought he was. That being said they hope he leaves. Cleveland is better without him.

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They gave up the No. 1 pick in the draft to get him. Wiggins looks like a future all star. That trade was made at the behest of James. They made the finals without Love. That's a blow but even worse is the fact that you gave a future All Star to get him.

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LeBron has the right to demand that Cleveland put great talent around him. He sucks at picking talent. Shaq and Ben Wallace are at the top of the suckage list.

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His demands are the reason they traded for Love in the first place. I can never remember a player ever having this much influence over player personnel decisions.

If he isn't good at evaluating then why is he involved in player personnel decisions. He also insisted that they sign his "guys". Jones Marion and Miller were signed because he promoted those moves.

This is where the inconsistency and hypocrisy arises. The mere thought that Anthony disapproves of some guy no one has ever seen play brings consternation. LeBron James strong arms the franchise every chance he gets yet he should be allowed to do it?

That's the reason I constantly invoke Goff and Bernstein. Other than using terms such as "Wang whipper" and "grown ass man", In what ways are their views any different from most posters when it comes to loving Lebron?

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Very different. Most people that post here hate LeBron. I just started to like him last year and it was because of his social awareness. Fact is he is more of a team player than Marshmelo will ever be. He makes guys around him better. Very few guys have had that ability. When it comes to evaluating talent he sucks just like Kobe and Jordan. The only difference is he's managed to get enough influence to pressure his teams into making moves. I will never have an issue with any athlete that finds a way to get that type of power and influence. Marshmelo has never cared about that.

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At the end of the day he is still an employee. Some guys he makes better some he doesnt. Bosh and Love became worse after playing with him. He does make teams better though. I just think that there will be diminishing returns if this keeps up.

If they lose Kevin Love after giving up the Number 1 pick to acquire him it will haunt the franchise. If they lose him without compensation that is. This move was made to appease James and if it fails then it's on him.

Undermining the coach is also bogus. He is far more of a douche bag than Anthony has ever been. Anthony took more money but LeBron James and his antics are despicable when you really think about it. Whether he is the best player or not Shouldn't matter. He is being afforded preferential treatment. How do you think that sits with the other guys on the team. If I'm Kevin Love I get as far away that circus as I can. Love is still considered to be elite and being part of The LeBron James show has done nothing for his career.

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False.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Statistically true. Both became three point shooters for whom very few plays were called. I guess in your basketball world that made them better. Even in the court of public opinion they both lost.

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His demands are essentially fallacious at their very core. What LeBron the budding GM hasn't quite figured out is the primary reason that Cleveland doesn't have better role players is due to the fact that he, Irving, and Love comprise most of the teams cap. He insisted on playing with star players which meant max contract guys. His insistence insured that there wouldn't be much money left over for bench players.

They are hamstrung cap wise. For all the talk with regards to San Antonio and Golden State models look at how they have handled the salary cap. I don't think there is one max contract guy between the two teams. That is why they both were able to have deep benches. GM LeBron would be smart to consider this as he makes his list of demands.

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Golden State got lucky and Leonard will be a max guy. The Spurs have been very fortunate. LeBron knows guys want to play with him. After Love leaves they will be fine.

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That's my point. That Superstar big three model worked in Miami but it may not work going forward. I still think Cleveland will miss Love but the teams that have won titles the past two yrs are not bogging the team down with Max contracts

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I will take Long Time Guys lack of response as agreement to this.

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I concede the point on this one. They would probably be an 8 or 9 win team at that point. Not .500 though definitely better with James. I think you are overestimating that Knicks roster. Plus Shumpert and J.R. we're injured earlier in the season.

You saw how many shots James took once Irving and Love were injured and J.R. became 2nd option. You also saw how much J.R. struggled once he was the 2nd and not the 4th option. That was the Knicks of the past two seasons. LeBron became the same ball hog that Melo has been accused of over the yrs. In fact his was worse because he was ball handling too.

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