Baseball is a dying sport no doubt.

That is why you have to keep control of one of the few cities that still seems to care about it.

The last four expansion teams have been the Rockies, Marlins, Diamondbacks, and Rays. Three of those four are near the bottom of attendance even while those three teams have already had a good amount of success. Tampa Bay is actually jealous of White Sox attendance.

Realistically, the Cubs aren't a factor. They have a lot of fans, and will continue to do so. Once Jerry sells, a new owner can really capitalize on one of the true undervalued franchises in sports. At worst, the White Sox can be the next Mets, especially since they are competing with a team like the Cubs and not a team like the Yankees.

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Example A: drinky

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Regardless of Theo, Ricketts, and the Plan…the Cubs will continue to be the more popular team. They can Corporatize the ballpark all they want….as long as the neighborhood remains the way it is, they’ll be a top draw. They have also have the a solid, national fan base. The Cubs will continue to be the more popular team overall…regardless if the Sox own Cook County. The only real threat to the Cubs at this point is the neighborhood turning to shit. I don’t see that happening for the foreseeable future.

The Sox in their current location will continue to live and die by their performance on the field. I don’t think a move to the suburbs would fill the ballpark, but it would likely raise the basement floor. The Cubs are the beneficiary of a 3-streamed windfall of luck….neighborhood, WGN and the rise of Cable TV, their landmark ballpark. I don’t see the neighborhood booming for the Sox any time soon….the Cable TV boom and national coverage was missed and will never present itself again, and they missed out on retaining a baseball icon for a ballpark. A move to the suburbs could help tem marginally, but not enough to overtake the Cubs in popularity. A move to the WRONG suburb could actually make things worse. The only way the Sox could surpass the Cubs is by becoming the NY Yankees / St. Louis Cardinals and start raising 10+ championship banners.

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. Jerry selling Undervalued would kill him and would never happen, or would have him come back from the dead before any discount was given to the valuation of anything he owned.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Since the sophisticated* Wrigleyville crowd moved to Wicker Park and Bucktown 5 years ago the neighborhood has gone to complete shit (oddly enough, so has Wicker Park!). The appeal of it is dwindling. I picked up two girls from Clark and Cornelia this weekend who had moved to Chicago the day before and already sworn it off. "I've never been grabbed and hit on by so many douchebags in my life."

Nobody really wants to go there anymore.

The definition of irony:

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I drive a cab*, JORR. I didn't pick them up the way you are thinking.

I'm not explaining Uber to JORR.

Well thats 2 out of 100,000 females that flock to game day bars and weekend bars.

Wrigleyville has 2 sides to it now. Gameday and non Gameday. Very different crowds.

The gameday crowd will be going strong for years and years despite the 2 females America saved from eventual rape.

The non gameday, weekend crowd is a little rough. The posers are out in full strength. The midnight dance club thing going on at Sluggers on non game nights, not exactly a place you will ever see me and I am actually surprised no shootings have come of it.

Vines, Yakzees, Sportscorner, Morans on a game day is packed with people eating and drinking before a game.

Weekends in the summer are heavily attended by visiting fans. The Philly crew this weekend was also a little rough aroud the edges (imagine that?)

They do need to create a Wrigley Security force and shut down the streets for an hour before and after the games. Thats a huge problem.

All said, Mr America, the carnival is going to expand to a point you will detest and make the Ricketts family tons of cash...at the expense of it being a Neighborhood.

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“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I only visit the City wen I have to...I'm as suburban as it gets. I did the Race to Wrigley this year....the neighborhood was rockin' same is it's been for years. If it's gone to shit, a ton of people have yet to get the memo.

I'm a Sox fan. I like the Cell. I don't spend much time in Wrigley for the simple fact that the city is a royal pain in the ass. Still...that team will continue to be more popular than the Sox. Not changing in this lifetime.

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It's never been a neighrborhood, at least as long as I've been alive.

It will be cool when Wrigleyville is the Las Vegas strip without gambling. Where are they putting the Margaritaville?

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Perhaps because you think Wrigleyville is only Clark St from Irving Park to Belmont?

Lakeview is temporary housing for the upper middle class. It's a slice of Ohio.

In realistic society ... " wrigleyville" is east of western , north of diversely , and south of Montrose.

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north of 55

Roscoe Village weeps.

I was always under impression it was Irving Park-Southport-Belmont-Halsted/Broadway.

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Correct, except I wont even go with comped tickets. Getting to and from Wrigley Field is an absolute nightmare from the western suburbs. I enjoy KC Cougars games and its 10 minutes from my house.

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So the guy who lined in Oregon and the region is now telling me what my Hood is?

At some point, the Joe Orr theory was right about people moving out. Now, many stay. They buy houses, the kids go to Hawthorne. Thats the neighborhood. Those that live down seminary, Eddy, cornelia, southport, racine. Build a new house for sale in Wrigleyville and it sells in days.

Many people still move for economic reasons as they want to send the kids to private school in the city, but cant afford that and a $1.5M house, so they move.

Clark St isnt a neighborhood, its a business district that actually needs to take MUCH more responsibility of keeping up the neighborhood.

EVERY morning, 2 guys from the Cubs walk around sweeping up the residential streets of the garbage from the bar patrons.

The area has issues, not even a doubt, but to think its going away, shrinking or going bad is telling me you have no clue about what you speak of.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I hear they have some little league games in the area, you can sit for free, easy parking, bring your own food too!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Wow, I'm a genuinely surprised. They're weren't Phillies bad on the field.

Even by Kirkwood/Cubs Trolling standards, this is a horrible thread.

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lowest TV ratings in MLB and 5th lowest attendance....

Maybe instead of traveling with the team, Hawk can just go individually to the 78 homes that actually watch the games each year.

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You know me like that.

These types of comments are making me question my enthusiasm for the Cubs.

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You should probably read the 27 Cubs threads created by White Sox fans. it should make you feel better. #shotsfired

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One the first page of this section, there are 16* threads started by Cubs fans, including one by yourself. Cubs fans in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.


*Two of them were legitimate news stories- Olt and the video board.

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move it to Addison and I'll even buy a part season package.

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I missed that originally but as well.

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