I don't buy #1. Especially considering that he not only never said it but there is no proof it happened or that he saw it.

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I don't think there's been a single impassioned leftist post here in the last month that hasn't been immediately met by Hawg Ass saying "hyurp, fine by me" or something along those lines. The word count ratio is always at least 12:1. Every time there's one of these replies, I imagine him kicking up his feet on the desk, crossing his arms, and grinning a shit-eating grin. "I disagree and that's all the argument I'm obligated to make because fuuuuuuuck yoooou."

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Very easy solution for you, don't read my post.

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Settle down, sport.

Your ratio of words to Hawg's words is 500:1

Not sure of you saw the entire video clip from the end of the prior stop the officer made, but I thought it was clear she rolled through the stop. Whether the cop noticed it is debatable.

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I saw her turn. I saw him let the woman go with a warning for speeding and driving without insurance. I also saw him do a u-turn and speed up behind Bland. He said he pulled her over for a failure to signal. That's the primary reason I don't buy #1. I agree with #2 but it's kinda out of your control.

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Driving without insurance should be an automatic fine, license suspension. No fucking "warnings". Im willing to bet those who drive without insurance are exponentially more likely to flee accidents as well putting everyone else in further danger.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

i'd like to think CH is also imagining Hawg listening to capital cities in the background.

I appreciate brevity

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

They killed her

It's just his opinion, agree to disagree.

KD! I love it. Exactly, when did it become wrong to have a reasonable disagreement on an issue?

America wouldn't go to Texas for a job. Hawg would. Seems simple to me.

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i guess you're just smarter than the rest of us

I watched the entire video. What is amazing to me is how quickly it escalated from a routine traffic to a confrontation. Both adults acted irrationally. First I have no clue how Bland could be that noticeably upset about a routine traffic stop. It was so routine in fact that she was only going to get a warning (i.e. no ticket). Now she didn't know that, but clearly all her records were in order such that the cop was going to let her off. Further, I have no clue why she wouldn't comply with the request to put out the cigarette. After that point, it's the cop's turn to be a dbag. The woman is not enough of a threat to take such drastic action as try to forcibly remove her from the car or taser her. They both act like idiots from that point on over a routine traffic stop.

The sad thing is, the cop seemed very polite with the first traffic stop and acted the same way at the beginning of the Bland traffic stop.

The level of distrust between the police and Black America is readily apparent to me. There is no way I would ever act like that towards a police officer. I equally believe there is no way a police officer would act that way towards me in similar circumstances. It's like both sides in the Bland stop were just itching for confrontation.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I disagree.

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next time you get pulled over for changing lanes incorrectly let me know how you feel

I use my signal, and not because I am smarter than anyone else. But I do speed! If I get pulled over for it, then I get what I deserve for breaking the law.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Agree to disagree with your interpretation of KD's post

ok

*YAWN*

She was annoyed because she felt she shouldn't have been pulled over anyway. Watching the entire video it should be clear to anyone that she was targeted because she had out of state plates or because she was black. He did a u-turn and sped up behind her. She was getting out of his way on a fairly empty road. Then he pulls her over. I've gotten out of the way of cops and emergency vehicles many times without signaling. I'm sure most people here have done the same. Also I don't believe that you have to signal if the cars behind you are a certain distance away.

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Cops have a complex. It's no secret that out of town folks are more likely to be targeted. The fact that Blacks are (DWB) is part of that distrust I talked about. At the end of the day, it is not an excuse for getting upset like a child during the stop, not putting out the cigarette, or not getting out of the car. I am not going to make excuses for either party. They are both culpable for acting childish during the stop.

I agree that she had a valid reason for moving over without signaling. If this cop so hated Blacks or out of town folks, then he would have given her a ticket. I think many times cops are looking for a reason to pull someone over as a pretext for finding something bigger, like drugs in the front seat, an outstanding warrant, no driver's license.

I have more distrust of government than anyone in this forum. I can't stand the security apparatus, the jailing of so many people, arrests for petty drugs crimes, the targeting of companies for recurring fines, etc, etc. I expect adults to act like such, both the police and the people being police. In this case, neither acted reasonably.

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I'm not sure you or I are qualified to make that call, Denis.

I couldn't possibly disagree more.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Either you missed nuance or my confirmation bias is too high.

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Apparently I am missing everything. Heck, I can't even get Seinfeld references down. I need to follow DT's advice.

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To your point, I have no problem with reasonable disagreements. Or unreasonable disagreements. The board is built on them. I don't like terse responses that make no points of their own, with "agree to disagree" responses that pre-empt any further argument. If you made some longform argument for, I dunno, blasting the poor into space, and I just said "I wouldn't blast the poor into space, but that's just me," and you asked why not, and I just said "that's my opinion and I'll leave it at that," wouldn't you be a little annoyed with my failure to rebut your poverty-based ballistics? It's stubborn arrogance dressed up as conciliatory friendliness and I hate it. But that's just me and whatever you think is okay too.

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