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It begs the question of just where will the outrage emanate? Will the outrage originate with Sharpton? What about Jackson? What will the usual suspects state about this situation?

I understand that the alleged perpetrator was captured, but it should not simply end there. The cop was killed for stopping a drug transaction. It was a petty ass drug transaction at that. It's the only type of transaction being conducted in African American communities these days.

Will there be a call from African American leaders to stop drug dealing in black communities? Will they organize marches or seek out the media as a means of highlighting the negative effects of drugs or will they continuously bellyache about black incarceration rates?


I really have absolutely no idea the point you are trying to make. You are all over the place fighting 30 battles. If someone murders someone and it's not in self defense then they should be arrested and charged with a crime. It's really that simple.

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The headline and article were, IMO, misleading.

What the cop says at the start of this paragraph and what he says at the end seem contradictory.

“If he fucking hit me or threatened my life, I would fucking kill that motherfucker with whatever I had in that fucking house,” officer Troy Middlebrooks can be heard saying on the recording. “And before the police got here, I’d fucking put marks all over my shit and make it look like he was trying to fucking kill me...What would it look like? Self fucking defense.”

First he says "if he hit me or threatened my life", which could lead to a legitimate case of self defense. But then he talks about "making it look like he was trying to fucking kill me" which sounds like he'd make it look like self defense whether it was or not. I took that as him saying if it were self defense he'd make sure it looked like it to remove any doubt, not that he would kill him under any other circumstances and then try and make it look like self defense.

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It begs the question of just where will the outrage emanate? Will the outrage originate with Sharpton? What about Jackson? What will the usual suspects state about this situation?

I understand that the alleged perpetrator was captured, but it should not simply end there. The cop was killed for stopping a drug transaction. It was a petty ass drug transaction at that. It's the only type of transaction being conducted in African American communities these days.

Will there be a call from African American leaders to stop drug dealing in black communities? Will they organize marches or seek out the media as a means of highlighting the negative effects of drugs or will they continuously bellyache about black incarceration rates?


I really have absolutely no idea the point you are trying to make. You are all over the place fighting 30 battles. If someone murders someone and it's not in self defense then they should be arrested and charged with a crime. It's really that simple.


I'm really not fighting any battles I'm making a succinct point. When a police officer kills someone there is an immediate rush to judgment. If race is involved then the rush to judgment heightens. The usual suspects come out of the woodwork to drum up support for the possibility that foul play is involved. There isn't any due process only speculation and some sort of conspiracy theory. That's what occurred in Ferguson it appears.
Even when confronted with the truth the theory will persist.

It doesn't help matters when this occurs. There are witch hunts being conducted whenever a cop kills someone and when it is reversed it's simply dying in the line of duty. I understand that it's part of the job but there also needs to be a light shined in regards to circumstances which led to the guys death.

If that particular situation would have gone another way the race pimping bloodhounds would have been out in full force demanding justice. If everything was equal and the perpetrator would have been killed it would be another bout of black lives matter too. It's interesting to note that the guy's sister is already claiming self defense even though apparently the victim was killed by her brother's gun. To quote her " you know how they do"

He died because he interrupted a drug transaction. I want to know which African American "leader" will step up to address the effects of drugs on communities? Hopefully that clarifies it.

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You don't think it's a bigger deal when the police kill more than 100 people in a month, compared to one lunatic killing a cop?

To Protect and Serve. As far as I know, perps on the street don't take an oath like that.


How many of the hundred people killed by cops are cases of abuse of power vs not abuse of power?


Why is the exact number important? One is too many. Good thing that many of them are being caught on video.

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The headline and article were, IMO, misleading.

What the cop says at the start of this paragraph and what he says at the end seem contradictory.

“If he fucking hit me or threatened my life, I would fucking kill that motherfucker with whatever I had in that fucking house,” officer Troy Middlebrooks can be heard saying on the recording. “And before the police got here, I’d fucking put marks all over my shit and make it look like he was trying to fucking kill me...What would it look like? Self fucking defense.”

First he says "if he hit me or threatened my life", which could lead to a legitimate case of self defense. But then he talks about "making it look like he was trying to fucking kill me" which sounds like he'd make it look like self defense whether it was or not. I took that as him saying if it were self defense he'd make sure it looked like it to remove any doubt, not that he would kill him under any other circumstances and then try and make it look like self defense.

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Anyway, I dont want to argue about cops and their motivations today. Agree to disagree, Tad.

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Agree to disagree is fine with me. I've always been a huge rpb guy.

Cool. Im just in too good a mood today. Im gonna bury my head in the sand and pretend these issues dont exist. At least for today...


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Cool. Im just in too good a mood today. Im gonna bury my head in the sand and pretend these issues dont exist. At least for today...


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ok i havent read this thread beyond the original/first post, but i am going to go out on a far limb and assume that BOTH scorehead and elmhurst steve bemoan the actions of those "thugs" (which may or may not be a "Racial codeword" in this context) who threaten those brave policemen who risk life and limb to keep us face in exchange for a few bucks to raise their own families in this god forsaken world.

especially elmhurst steve... he's gonna shed his nature-boy-style lurker's robe and put the goods out there on display for the eligible right-leaning women (cuz who wants a woman who leans wrong?) like MAN THESE COPS NEED TO STOP GETTIN KILLED CUZ ITS AN EPIDEMIC AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN EVERYONE'S PROTESTING THEIR PROTECTORS AND RAH RAH RAH / BLAH BLAH BLAH WHO WILL PROTECT THE PROTECTORS FROM THE VICIOUS HANDS OF THOSE NO-GOODERS?

i dont think this board is "far gone" enough to have a reply of "guess the race?" within the first few replies.... but i see 4 pages worth so i'm ready for elmhurst head to pop up and bemoan this epidemic of assaulted/killed police officers! for shame america..... what will you do to screw up the freedom we have always enjoyed in ways not too dissimilar to an oldschool ancient-greek fatass perma-laying grape eating hedonist?

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It begs the question of just where will the outrage emanate? Will the outrage originate with Sharpton? What about Jackson? What will the usual suspects state about this situation?

I understand that the alleged perpetrator was captured, but it should not simply end there. The cop was killed for stopping a drug transaction. It was a petty ass drug transaction at that. It's the only type of transaction being conducted in African American communities these days.

Will there be a call from African American leaders to stop drug dealing in black communities? Will they organize marches or seek out the media as a means of highlighting the negative effects of drugs or will they continuously bellyache about black incarceration rates?


I really have absolutely no idea the point you are trying to make. You are all over the place fighting 30 battles. If someone murders someone and it's not in self defense then they should be arrested and charged with a crime. It's really that simple.


I'm really not fighting any battles I'm making a succinct point. When a police officer kills someone there is an immediate rush to judgment. If race is involved then the rush to judgment heightens. The usual suspects come out of the woodwork to drum up support for the possibility that foul play is involved. There isn't any due process only speculation and some sort of conspiracy theory. That's what occurred in Ferguson it appears.
Even when confronted with the truth the theory will persist.

It doesn't help matters when this occurs. There are witch hunts being conducted whenever a cop kills someone and when it is reversed it's simply dying in the line of duty. I understand that it's part of the job but there also needs to be a light shined in regards to circumstances which led to the guys death.

If that particular situation would have gone another way the race pimping bloodhounds would have been out in full force demanding justice. If everything was equal and the perpetrator would have been killed it would be another bout of black lives matter too. It's interesting to note that the guy's sister is already claiming self defense even though apparently the victim was killed by her brother's gun. To quote her " you know how they do"

He died because he interrupted a drug transaction. I want to know which African American "leader" will step up to address the effects of drugs on communities? Hopefully that clarifies it.


What are you talking about?

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Nevermind. It really doesn't matter at this point.

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I will keep it short. Where is the outrage from African American leaders in this situation. I watched Sharpton's show he quickly referenced it and then moved on from it. I wonder why in fact I know why. It's the same reason that you keep acting like you're confused. It doesn't fit the narrative.

It's really not difficult to understand. The murder of the police is one aspect but the cause of his death needs to be examined also. The dime store sociologists should use this an opportunity to address the effects of drug dealing and gun violence but instead police brutality is the far sexier topic right now. As I right this the 4 o'clock news is leading off its telecast with the lawsuit of Sandra Bland's family why? Because there must be some sort of conspiracy surrounding her death.

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Nas wrote:
Nevermind. It really doesn't matter at this point.


Couldn't keep it short. If the situation in Memphis would have gone another way you have been the first to start a thread but since it didn't happen that way you're feigning confusion.

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[quote="long time guy"] It's a loosely constructed argument but the crux of it involves outrage and how it is used and where it is placed.

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Why is the exact number important?One is too many. Good thing that many of them are being caught on video.


I agree one is too many. When you frame the statement with when the cops kill more than a hundred people in a month I think it's a valid question. If it's 75 there is a huge problem with...everything. If it's 5 you have a few bad cops that should be held accountable for their actions.


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Spaulding wrote:
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Why is the exact number important?One is too many. Good thing that many of them are being caught on video.


I agree one is too many. When you frame the statement with when the cops kill more than a hundred people in a month I think it's a valid question. If it's 75 there is a huge problem with...everything. If it's 5 you have a few bad cops that should be held accountable for their actions.


So five isn't a huge problem to you? It is to me. Many of these cops are not being held accountable for their actions.

The police in the U.S. killed more people in 115 days, than the UK police did in 115 years.

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Nevermind. It really doesn't matter at this point.


Couldn't keep it short. If the situation in Memphis would have gone another way you have been the first to start a thread but since it didn't happen that way you're feigning confusion.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Okay. You're a very sad and delusional person. Have a great life.

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Nas wrote:
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Nevermind. It really doesn't matter at this point.


Couldn't keep it short. If the situation in Memphis would have gone another way you have been the first to start a thread but since it didn't happen that way you're feigning confusion.


:lol: :lol: :lol: Okay. You're a very sad and delusional person. Have a great life.


Trust me I have been blessed throughout the course of my life. I'm not the one that plays gotcha games when it comes to police brutality. Compare and contrast analysis is something I'm sort of versed in. Data shows that there were about 20 comments from you during the first three pages of the Sandra Bland thread yet only 3 in the first three of this thread. Don't forget to mention that I'm delusional. It's fairly easy to spot a guy pushing an agenda delusional though I may be.

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Chus wrote:
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Why is the exact number important?One is too many. Good thing that many of them are being caught on video.


I agree one is too many. When you frame the statement with when the cops kill more than a hundred people in a month I think it's a valid question. If it's 75 there is a huge problem with...everything. If it's 5 you have a few bad cops that should be held accountable for their actions.


So five isn't a huge problem to you? It is to me. Many of these cops are not being held accountable for their actions.

The police in the U.S. killed more people in 115 days, than the UK police did in 115 years.





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Chus wrote:
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Why is the exact number important?One is too many. Good thing that many of them are being caught on video.


I agree one is too many. When you frame the statement with when the cops kill more than a hundred people in a month I think it's a valid question. If it's 75 there is a huge problem with...everything. If it's 5 you have a few bad cops that should be held accountable for their actions.


So five isn't a huge problem to you? It is to me. Many of these cops are not being held accountable for their actions.

The police in the U.S. killed more people in 115 days, than the UK police did in 115 years.


More people are also shot in just Chicago every year than the Uk. It is not a very good comparison.

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U.K. police haven't carried guns in years, but it is still an alarming statistic.

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Why is the exact number important?One is too many. Good thing that many of them are being caught on video.


I agree one is too many. When you frame the statement with when the cops kill more than a hundred people in a month I think it's a valid question. If it's 75 there is a huge problem with...everything. If it's 5 you have a few bad cops that should be held accountable for their actions.


So five isn't a huge problem to you? It is to me. Many of these cops are not being held accountable for their actions.

The police in the U.S. killed more people in 115 days, than the UK police did in 115 years.


More people are also shot in just Chicago every year than the Uk. It is not a very good comparison.


When the topic is police abusing their power, it absolutely is.

Comparing street violence to police violence is a terrible comparison.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/la-cop-shot-head-suspect-captured-passing-drivers-n414616


The officer passed away this morning.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3db9a8be ... d-shooting

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/la-cop-shot-head-suspect-captured-passing-drivers-n414616

Nas desperately seeking ltg's approval.


:lol: :lol: I thought this was the shout out section.

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Nas wrote:
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/la-cop-shot-head-suspect-captured-passing-drivers-n414616

Nas desperately seeking ltg's approval.


:lol: :lol: I thought this was the shout out section.



That's not his style. On this one his motives do appear to be of an altruistic nature.

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http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-in-custody-after-deadly-ambush-on-sheriffs-deputy-in-texas/961743/

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http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-in-custody-after-deadly-ambush-on-sheriffs-deputy-in-texas/961743/

Dead is dead.


According to FarveFan there are no good cops and bad cops deserved to be killed.

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