Read my response to JORR's response to my post.

Orland Park has a very large and growing Muslim population.

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JORR is 0-2 today.

What is his Wins Above Racism?

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There is no shortage of bigots in Orland or any of the south suburbs, let me assure you.

Many folks who live there and further southwest will flat out admit they moved out there to get away from certain groups.

But yeah, they're all over the city too

Are you including the large Muslim population that JORR was unaware of in that assessment?

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One factor in my grandparents moving to Arlington Hts from Ukrainian Village in the 60s was getting away from Puerto Ricans. Does that help or hurt JORR's argument?

I have a daughter that resides in Ukranian Village.

Are you saying that she should move?

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Immediately

This was the 60's. Ukrainian Village is hipster and bourgeoisie now.

Attached garage?

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So my daughter should move.

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You wanna see a growing collection of young Holocaust deniers? Just step inside any Orland Park middle school when it's time to discuss the Holocaust and/or Anne Frank!

BANG! KAPOW!

Nope. If they moved because of black people I guess it would've been attached?

I guess some people who could afford it had to move from Streamwood to Huntley to escape the 5% black population. Sooner or later they'll end up in a cornfield.

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Freedom is our Strength.

One thing at a time. Our daughter is home to visit and I am driving her to the metra in five minutes.

I'm still trying to figure out how to tell her to move.

Now you tell me that i gave my refrigerator away to a homeowner in a town full of racists and Holocaust deniers.

it's kind of a lot at one time.

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So now the 30% Hispanic population in Streamwood doesn't matter?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

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Let's put it this way, I think there's a lot better chance of the cops being called if spmack knocks on a stranger's door in Orland Park than if good dolphin knocks.

For God's sake, Nas couldn't even wear an Afrocentric belt on casual Friday in Schaumburg without catching heat.

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Freedom is our Strength.

I'm sure it matters to some people and not to others.

You seem to be missing the point though. I don't think many people who post here actually have the thought that they want to live in the suburbs to escape black people. Their reasons are different, like "better schools" or "less crime" but those things are inextricably linked to racism whether you want to admit it or not.

How can it be that all these segregated areas exist, redlining was a real thing, and yet, no white person I know or anyone in his family or that he knows had anything at all to do with it?

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Freedom is our Strength.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Call it whatever the hell ya want, I don't blame anyone for running to the burbs ..and Better schools n less crime seem like a pretty fuckin easy decision . Chicago public schools are garbage ...If I had kids I wouldn't be sending them to Tilden or Morgan pk or Curie. Its not a bad thing to not want someone busting into your garage n stealing tools n a lawnmower. If city workers didn't have to live in the City ..half the population would leave ..a lot of blacks n Mexicans included

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hey i went to Morgan Park asshole

What years?

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Jorr is right about this. Throughout Chicago's residential history there is a direct correlation between the arrival of African Americans and the subsequent departure of whites. Class was not a factor because even African Americans of similar incomes were denied access.


In researching this I discovered that a lot of African Americans were comfortable with this arrangement. Segregation strangely enough was also enforced by African Americans in Chicago.
The problems arose when middle class blacks realized that they could not move away from lower class blacks. The divisions were based upon race when it involved blacks and whites, and class when it involved middle and lower class blacks.

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You had to do research to find out Bout white flight ?

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No not white flight. Segregation and the acceptance of African Americans with regard to Segregation. That is an underreported aspect of it. When I say research it's not really that. I read books and in a few of the books I've read there is information which pertains to black enforcement of segregation in Chicago.

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No one disputes the fact that some whites left when blacks arrived. No one who is rational anyway.

Throughout Chicago's history there is also a number of lawsuits against whites who tried to keep folks of color out of there neighborhoods. It was called redlining. Many of the very politicians that turned a blind eye toward it are still in power there.

And it is hardly surprising that blacks also participated in segregation. Change is something that human nature will always struggle with. Regardless of color or ethnicity.

Outside of Chicago, few cities fought integration initially more than Oak Park.

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As did I. I was supposed to graduate in '84.

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"I'm not smiling because I thought what you said was humorous. I'm smiling because one day I know you'll be dead..."

Its long said that blacks approached Daley #1 n said , give us the west side n you take south side ...he refused like a moron n the blacks took the west side n the lake front along with S.S. .

Numbnutz thought he could pack the lake poor people into high rises like sardines n forfeit a 4 block area .

Its not rocket Science ...the higher the property taxes = the better the schools=higher purchase price n resale ...they ain't just keeping minorities out ..they don't want you or me there either.

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There was not just a few. There was a consistent pattern of it. Whenever a neighborhood became 5% to 10% African American white flight would occur.

The lawsuits were typically thrown out. The Supreme Court upheld restrictive covenants initially. By that they were not ruled unconstitutional. However they changed the laws so that would be difficult to enforce restrictive covenants. That is how they were eliminated.

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I can honestly say I have never heard about any of this, and yes I know I didn't grow up around here. I never even heard of something like this living in the south.

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