I miss the summer afternoons at Ida B Wells. Or the cool autumn morning at Cabrini Green and Horner.

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Here's to the 500 or so folks watching (safely, they thought) across Lake Shore Drive who had to run like hell when the debris came right their way.

I was safely at 31st St. watching.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I was watching from 35th street. Talk about the wonders of technology.

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Bullshit ... You don't live in crook county than ..... Chicago's taxes are great ...a 350k home in Bridgeport or mt greenwood ..the taxes are 3k ...a 350k home in suburbs (cook county or will county) are 5-15 k

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He's full of shit or very mid informed , My parents n most of my relatives grew up in south shore .. White flight didn't happen until the late 70s

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Hate to do this to you, but I grew up in South Shore starting in '71. White flight had already started. We were the third black family on the block. Three years later it was kind of odd to see a white resident in most of South Shore. By '74 the South Shore Country Club was abandoned and quickly deteriorating in city hands.

You may be thinking about the Jackson Park Highlands section of South Shore though. That area really didn't turnover until the mid 80's.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

I'm actually not. If you look at residential patterns you will see what I'm referring to. I never brought up South Shore but that neighborhood changed also. White flight occurred in many neighborhoods during the 50's and 60's. That's pretty much common knowledge. The second black migration occurred during the 1960's there is a direct connection.

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Fuck that , I know you are older n know more shit ..I was born on 78th n Blackstone ..we moved when I was a baby to Marquette pk. Um 36 years old ... We stretched from Blackstone to Ellis ...my Granny was the last holdout . she moved in 81 '


I guess I shouldn't have said " started" but There were plenty of my relatives there until Early 80's late 70's -

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You are missing me on the politicans ... White flight is no secret .

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I stand in part corrected. I always forget about that small pocket of South Shore south of 76th, north of S. Chicago and east of Stony. Looking back, I can't argue, that area was oddly (for the area) integrated into the 80's. Strangely enough, although I've lived in South Shore most of my life, that's an area where I've known just one person.

I'd always even forget that there were homes in that area, aside from those right on 76th St..

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

He's full of shit or very mid informed , My parents n most of my relatives grew up in south shore .. White flight didn't happen until the late 70s[/quote]


I'm actually not. If you look at residential patterns you will see what I'm referring to. I never brought up South Shore but that neighborhood changed also. White flight occurred in many neighborhoods during the 50's and 60's. That's pretty much common knowledge. The second black migration occurred during the 1960's there is a direct connection.[/quote]


You are missing me on the politicans ... White flight is no secret .[/quote]

The politicians in conjunction with neighborhood Real estate associations helped to create Chicago's black ghettos during the first half of the 20th century. City Hall was the enforcer of restrictive covenants. The book making of the black ghetto is a good resource for clearing this up.

It's not about whether or not it's a secret. I'm not saying they created white flight but they did create black ghettos. White flight occurred once middle class African Americans were able to move from black ghetto areas into predominantly white areas.

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@ RR. We were deep from 78-79 th


@ LTG ...I actually blame the realtors for white flight.

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This is the way I saw it.

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Elections have consequences.

The African American population of South Shore was 69% in 1970. By 1980 it was up to 95%. I was moving around and couldn't really get to it but white flight took place in South Shore much earlier than the late 70's early 80's.

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The use of restrictive covenants had a profound effect upon the rental markets of Chicago also. Restrictive covenants created an artificial demand for housing which helped drive up rent prices for African Americans. Landlords actually sought out black families during this period because they could extract higher rents from them.

There were 4 families for each unit of housing in the black belt area. This overwhelming demand allowed landlords to raise rents and in a number of cases push whites out. Landlords would devise schemes so that they would not have to rent to whites.

The irony is that this probably one of the few times that African Americans have move into an area and the value actually went up.

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This guy should be fucked , the other 3 officers testified that they didn't even pull their weapons ..he was clearly unarmed

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I like the suburbs. It's a lot cheaper than the city. I grew up in them and never thought much of it.