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Since Mid June No Hitter, Scherzer has been a very average pitcher compared to anyone.

So you're agreeing with me. Thank you for your support.




I wasn't even sure you were being sarcastic , But now we can all agree Lester was the best Arm available ..n he got 50 million less than Schurzer ... Great Signing .. Add Price or Greinke n 2015 = Jorr cuts his wrist in his clawfoot bathtub.

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Nothing like Ron Coomer PBP to suck the excitement out of a 3 HR inning.




He shouldn't talk unless Hughes gas to take a dump ..piss in a bucket . He's actually worse than Santo .

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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BTW, Cubs are 12-10 in Lester's starts going into today.


Impressive ROI, especially on a team 16 games over .500

Well, theyve been shut out in 5 of those games. I guess he could provide more offensive pop.

When they give him at least 1 run, they are 12-7 and he is 7-3.

I guess he's one of those bums that needs at least 1 run to win.


unlike the pitchers he pitches against

I guess he's just hard luck John.

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Since Mid June No Hitter, Scherzer has been a very average pitcher compared to anyone.

So you're agreeing with me. Thank you for your support.


I wasn't even sure you were being sarcastic , But now we can all agree Lester was the best Arm available ..n he got 50 million less than Schurzer ... Great Signing .. Add Price or Greinke n 2015 = Jorr cuts his wrist in his clawfoot bathtub.

Bigfan was not agreeing with you. He was just pointing out how Scherzer is pitching lately.

Scherzer has had a better overall season than Lester. There is not one thing you can point out that would mean Lester has had a better year than Scherzer.

The Cubs wouldn't have gone wrong either way.

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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Danks = Haren ..n I'd prefer J.D. ..he's got better stuff ... Pound Sunday Chris Sale vs Haren .... Sox n over . even if Sale is minus 180 n total is 10 ...its easy $

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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WRONG GODDAMN THREAD

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so far Cubs @ Sox
game 1 is pick, game 2 Arrieta should be chalk and game 3 Sale will be chalk


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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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Anyone still criticizing Lester is just trying to convince themselves they were right to be worried

If they make the playoffs, the stolen base thing would bother me as a Cubs fan.

Oh no, that is legit concern. I meant his pitching.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Anyone still criticizing Lester is just trying to convince themselves they were right to be worried

If they make the playoffs, the stolen base thing would bother me as a Cubs fan.

Oh no, that is legit concern. I meant his pitching.

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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Buster wrote:
so far Cubs @ Sox
game 1 is pick, game 2 Arrieta should be chalk and game 3 Sale will be chalk


bet the first two games are picks

as I told 312, I'd go with unders until they prove otherwise

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BTW, Cubs are 12-10 in Lester's starts going into today.


Impressive ROI, especially on a team 16 games over .500

Well, theyve been shut out in 5 of those games. I guess he could provide more offensive pop.

When they give him at least 1 run, they are 12-7 and he is 7-3.

I guess he's one of those bums that needs at least 1 run to win.


unlike the pitchers he pitches against

I guess he's just hard luck John.

Are you a run support denier too?

I think its difficult to win games without the offense scoring one run


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I think its difficult to win games without the offense scoring one run

But not impossible!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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Schwarber with two bombs. All while playing like a pudgy Kevin Mitchell out in LF. Wait a minute.

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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unlike the pitchers he pitches against

I guess he's just hard luck John.

Are you a run support denier too?

I think its difficult to win games without the offense scoring one run[/quote]

Not at all.

However, I'm not going to get up and pronounce to the world that I am thrilled with my bell cow when the team doesn't win games that he starts. No excuses when you're the man.

You know I'm a big Quintana guy. I've defended up and down these here boards. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a little off putting that the team is most likely to lose a close game when he starts.

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when the team doesn't win games that he starts.

But they do.

The Cubs will be 12-10 in games that Lester starts.

If Lester pitched every game for the Cubs, that would be an 88 or 89 win season. Last year's World Series winner won 88 games.

Lester has outdueled Cole, Wainwright, deGrom and others this season.

He is a winner.

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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when the team doesn't win games that he starts.

But they do.

The Cubs will be 12-10 in games that Lester starts.

If Lester pitched every game for the Cubs, that would be an 88 or 89 win season. Last year's World Series winner won 88 games.

Lester has outdueled Cole, Wainwright, deGrom and others this season.

He is a winner.


12-10 for a team that is 16 games over is not very good. Someone else is carrying his water

but that's fine, he's pitched well

I expect more. I expect my top guys to pitch well AND win and I would expect my top guys to feel the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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when the team doesn't win games that he starts.

But they do.

The Cubs will be 12-10 in games that Lester starts.

If Lester pitched every game for the Cubs, that would be an 88 or 89 win season. Last year's World Series winner won 88 games.

Lester has outdueled Cole, Wainwright, deGrom and others this season.

He is a winner.


12-10 for a team that is 16 games over is not very good. Someone else is carrying his water

The percentages are close.

Cubs are on pace to win 93 instead of 88.

Don't be jealous the Cubs are able to pay their #2 well and Dollar General Jerry cannot.

Arrieta is the ace.

In 2018, the Cubs will be paying Arrieta, Lester and Price all $20M+ per season.

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 Post subject: Re: Brewers @ Cubs
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when the team doesn't win games that he starts.

But they do.

The Cubs will be 12-10 in games that Lester starts.

If Lester pitched every game for the Cubs, that would be an 88 or 89 win season. Last year's World Series winner won 88 games.

Lester has outdueled Cole, Wainwright, deGrom and others this season.

He is a winner.


12-10 for a team that is 16 games over is not very good. Someone else is carrying his water

The percentages are close.

Cubs are on pace to win 93 instead of 88.

Don't be jealous the Cubs are able to pay their #2 well and Dollar General Jerry cannot.

Arrieta is the ace.

In 2018, the Cubs will be paying Arrieta, Lester and Price all $20M+ per season.


Percentages are deceptive in this instance, which you are well aware of. A five game difference in winning is huge. Even more to that point, he should be the guy who is way above the average.

I don't know why it is tough to admit you wish he won more games? I'll readily admit he has pitched well.

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I thought Arietta was locked up for another 2 years @ 7 per .

Lester is making 22 per n Price is getting 7@30 .

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Never though they would get to this many over .500. I picked the Sox over and Cubs under for win totals this year.


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Lester has outdueled Cole, Wainwright, deGrom and others this season.

He is a winner.


I knew you'd eventually see the value of W/L record. :lol:

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