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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:06 am 
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The Cubs told everyone who would listen The Plan. The whole franchise would rebuild: baseball ops, Wrigley, minor leagues, major leagues. Just like an old-growth forest....you have to burn it down for the new flora to sprout. They told you they would rebuild the right way. Now after three years:

Exceptional Baseball Ops ✓
Improved Wrigley Field Experience ✓
Wrigley Field Rocking!!! ✓
Excellent Minor League Talent ✓
Magnificent Major League Team ✓

Management laid out what the Cubs would be. Sure enough they accomplished their goal and now the Cubs are the envy of 29 other MLB teams. The electricity in Wrigley with a team that was built the right way is incredible.

The next 15 years are going to be great. We got a juggernaut on our hands.
It did, but you missed reason #1 why it worked.

5 straight years of major losing seasons with high draft picks and sell offs.

I'm officially changing my stance. I want every single professional team I root for to be horrible for a period of 5 years besides the Blackhawks because they are actually championship caliber. I think I'll live until then so I can handle the long drought of horrible that seems to be required to win in sports now.


Great thoughts on the Blackhawks. Really drives home your Cubs thoughts..........

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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Great thoughts on the Blackhawks. Really drives home your Cubs thoughts..........
Normally I'd say I wish I knew what your point was, but I really don't care.

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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The goal is not to win championships. A championship is a certain and quantifiable goal. Theo has always been careful not to tie himself to actual benchmarks for fear of criticism.

The goal is to be competitive enough to not get Theo fired.

How do we know the plan is working...because its working...even though it is working in a way completely different than the plan laid out.



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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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Please show me one person who has 'chriped' that multiple championships are destined.



You're kidding, right?


Cubs will make multiple PLAYOFFS is my official stance. I think JORR is confusing playoffs with winning it all.


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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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Please show me one person who has 'chriped' that multiple championships are destined.



You're kidding, right?


Cubs will make multiple PLAYOFFS is my official stance. I think JORR is confusing playoffs with winning it all.



Way to temper your enthusiasm! :lol:

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Guess who did it better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHSvIK62y_Y



Yeah, but which one happened in a more important game?!?

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It's a great time to be a Cub fan. When have we ever seen multiple young players that the team developed living up to expectations?

Now of course they can all go the Jerome Walton route next year, but dammit, I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this remaining baseball season.

Join us dolphin. We'll sit you right between Veder and Tom Morello.


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Matches Malone wrote:
It's a great time to be a Cub fan. When have we ever seen multiple young players that the team developed living up to expectations?

Now of course they can all go the Jerome Walton route next year, but dammit, I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this remaining baseball season.

Join us dolphin. We'll sit you right between Veder and Tom Morello.


I'll probably throw some down on the Cub in the playoffs and you'll see me cheering like Dolphin Woo Woo.

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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good dolphin wrote:
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It's a great time to be a Cub fan. When have we ever seen multiple young players that the team developed living up to expectations?

Now of course they can all go the Jerome Walton route next year, but dammit, I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this remaining baseball season.

Join us dolphin. We'll sit you right between Veder and Tom Morello.


I'll probably throw some down on the Cub in the playoffs and you'll see me cheering like Dolphin Woo Woo.


I picture the good dolphin sitting down to enjoy a game while sporting his Rod Beck replica jersey. I bet you even swing the arm before changing the channel a la Beck.


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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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The Cubs currently enjoy an 87.5% chance of being in the playoffs.

(the White Sox have a 7% chance)

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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Don Tiny wrote:
http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

The Cubs currently enjoy an 87.5% chance of being in the playoffs.

(the White Sox have a 7% chance)

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

The Cubs currently enjoy an 87.5% chance of being in the playoffs.

(the White Sox have a 7% chance)

Hi IMU

Hi Walt

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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Don Tiny wrote:
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http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

The Cubs currently enjoy an 87.5% chance of being in the playoffs.

(the White Sox have a 7% chance)

Hi IMU

Hi Walt

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That's not comparable!!!

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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Hawg Ass wrote:
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http://www.fangraphs.com/coolstandings.aspx

The Cubs currently enjoy an 87.5% chance of being in the playoffs.

(the White Sox have a 7% chance)

Hi IMU

Hi Walt

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That's not comparable!!!

Huh? I called you Walt, as in Disney, because of the animated cartoon pig avatar ... I wouldn't possibly know what else you could have thought I meant.

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 Post subject: Re: The Plan Worked
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Northside_Dan wrote:
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Please show me one person who has 'chriped' that multiple championships are destined.



You're kidding, right?


Still waiting for one person who said they will win multiple championships in the next few years in all seriousness.

And you won't get one. Yet this line of thinking is continually attributed to Cub fans here.

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RFDC wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Please show me one person who has 'chriped' that multiple championships are destined.



You're kidding, right?


Still waiting for one person who said they will win multiple championships in the next few years in all seriousness.

And you won't get one. Yet this line of thinking is continually attributed to Cub fans here.


So you're going to be happy if they're like the Sox of the 1990s? Who ya crappin'? You're not expecting a bunch of 90 win teams that never win. You think this team is going to win World Series. Own it.

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If the Cubs go 500 the rest of the year..... I won't spoil it....try it yourself :D

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If the Cubs go 500 the rest of the year..... I won't spoil it....try it yourself :D


Just checked it. That would be unbelievable.


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I watched the White Sox broadcast just to listen to the pain and jealousy in Hawk's voice. :twisted:

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If the Cubs go 500 the rest of the year..... I won't spoil it....try it yourself :D


Just checked it. That would be unbelievable.


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There's as much chance the Sox make the playoffs this year as the Cub do- ZERO..

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If the Cubs go 500 the rest of the year..... I won't spoil it....try it yourself :D


Just checked it. That would be unbelievable.


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There's as much chance the Sox make the playoffs this year as the Cub do- ZERO..


I still don't think they'll make it and if they do it will be one and out. You guys seem pretty certain they couldn't possibly play under .500 the rest of the way.

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It cannot be disputed....the plan has worked. Thank goodness they did not deviate from the plan at the deadline. They are not willing to squander great young prospects for a short term chance to grab lightning in a bottle. Sustained excellence is the goal. Playoff berths year after year, with the chance to win a Championship each year, not every once in a great while. The plan is certainly working.

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So you're going to be happy if they're like the Sox of the 1990s? Who ya crappin'? You're not expecting a bunch of 90 win teams that never win. You think this team is going to win World Series. Own it.


There is nothing for me to own. I do not think this team is going to win the WS. I do not know why that is so hard to believe. I am hopeful that at some point they will win a WS, but I in no way think it is a foregone conclusion.

As I have stated from the beginning, I was in favor of the plan put in place. I was glad to see them tear it down and rebuild. I was willing to give them time to see it through.

I love the results so far. I am happy to be able to watch meaningful baseball in August for the first time in several years.

But I in no way believe that this is a guarantee of a championship. And no matter how many times you guys say it does not make it true.

Hopefully things will continue to move forward and for the foreseeable future they put themselves in contention each year.

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So you're going to be happy if they're like the Sox of the 1990s? Who ya crappin'? You're not expecting a bunch of 90 win teams that never win. You think this team is going to win World Series. Own it.


There is nothing for me to own. I do not think this team is going to win the WS. I do not know why that is so hard to believe. I am hopeful that at some point they will win a WS, but I in no way think it is a foregone conclusion.

As I have stated from the beginning, I was in favor of the plan put in place. I was glad to see them tear it down and rebuild. I was willing to give them time to see it through.

I love the results so far. I am happy to be able to watch meaningful baseball in August for the first time in several years.

But I in no way believe that this is a guarantee of a championship. And no matter how many times you guys say it does not make it true.

Hopefully things will continue to move forward and for the foreseeable future they put themselves in contention each year.


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So you're going to be happy if they're like the Sox of the 1990s? Who ya crappin'? You're not expecting a bunch of 90 win teams that never win. You think this team is going to win World Series. Own it.


There is nothing for me to own. I do not think this team is going to win the WS. I do not know why that is so hard to believe. I am hopeful that at some point they will win a WS, but I in no way think it is a foregone conclusion.

As I have stated from the beginning, I was in favor of the plan put in place. I was glad to see them tear it down and rebuild. I was willing to give them time to see it through.

I love the results so far. I am happy to be able to watch meaningful baseball in August for the first time in several years.

But I in no way believe that this is a guarantee of a championship. And no matter how many times you guys say it does not make it true.

Hopefully things will continue to move forward and for the foreseeable future they put themselves in contention each year.


That is the key, to be in the position to have a chance at a WS title, year after year for a sustained period of time. The Braves may have won just 1 title during their stretch of 14 straight division titles, but they had the chance each year for a sustained period. that is the goal.

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The goal is to contend & make the playoffs every year...not to have the best record every year. The team with the best record rarely wins the world series. Like Hockey, the hot team in the playoffs wins.
Cant argue with the plan so far as it has been executed perfectly.
As a guy who used to be a huge baseball fan & pretty much took the last 10 years off, its fun to be interested in baseball & the Cubs again. I have watched more baseball this year than I have the last 10 years combined.
I can't wait to watch the Cubs in October.

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I do not think this team is going to win the WS.


Great! We're in agreement then.

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They'll sprint to the playoffs and then lose in one game against the other team's ace. This second wild card is more trouble than it's worth.

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